716er Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Big Blitz said: He's saved more lives then penicillin. Crayonz, MD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 1 minute ago, BillStime said: Clearly you didn't lose anyone close to you due to COVID. My personal experience should have zero impact on policy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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716er Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 26 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: My personal experience should have zero impact on policy. Indeed - Your anti-mask and anti-vax stance has zero impact on policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 57 minutes ago, Governor said: Why are you getting all freaked out? I doubt restaurants, etc., would do that for obvious reasons, but places like Verizon, other large companies In sure will have something in place for their own protection. Remember, that liability protection thing Mitch wanted in the stimulus bills was never included. I’m not freaked out. I’m very much against having to prove something that is 100% voluntary to go out to eat or get a job. 11 minutes ago, BillStime said: Did he beg for credit or ask for just a mention? Such a confusing Tweet. I suggest you put down the Twitter feed ya twit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: I’m not freaked out. I’m very much against having to prove something that is 100% voluntary to go out to eat or get a job. Did he beg for credit or ask for just a mention? Such a confusing Tweet. I suggest you put down the Twitter feed ya twit. No way, more questions from Jim! Fox News (and other far right sources that Bonnie shares) demand Biden credit Trump for the vaccines he personally created while also falsely claiming that the vaccines may kill you.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 1 minute ago, BillStime said: No way, more questions from Jim! Fox News (and other far right sources that Bonnie shares) demand Biden credit Trump for the vaccines he personally created while also falsely claiming that the vaccines may kill you.. Wait so is Trump or Fox News demanding Trump be given credit? So confusing. Why I ask so many questions. I’m only trying to follow along. Cut this old man some slack. You damn ageist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 2 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Here's my problem with all these pronouncements. And what's more important than what they're saying is what they're not saying. Taking this last piece of the article, "it was necessary to keep wearing masks in crowds, when people are near others whose vaccination status they don't know". So I got the Moderna vaccine and I am puzzled why the vaccination status of strangers matters to me? Because the premise behind getting vaccinated against COVID is to not get sick from the COVID virus. So even if there are un-vaccinated or COVID positive people in "the crowd" if the vaccine works I should not get infected. So why should I care about the vaccination status of everyone in the crowd as long as I know I am protected? I've done everything I can to make sure myself and everyone I have a responsibility for is protected to the best of my ability. I've done my part here. If others choose not to do that then that's the risk they take and that's their decision. Free will and the right to choose. I'm not responsible for them and its not my concern. So what are these epidemiologists implying here? Are they saying the vaccines do not work? Are they saying I can still carry and incubate the virus in my system even if I am vaccinated and have antibodies in my system that stop the virus from replicating? Does the vaccine actually stop the virus from replicating or does it simply stop it from producing any of the symptoms of the infection? We need more information than just opinions, conclusions, and recommendations of epidemiologists. We need the details on the facts and the information they're using to reach their conclusions. They've required vaccinated people to wear masks because while the vaccine protects you, it was previously unknown if it would prevent you from (temporarily) carrying and spreading it to others. Basic masks are for protecting others, not yourself. But the early research evidence I have seen shows the vaccine does in fact prevent you from being a spreader. The CDC has said current evidence is strong enough. Other epidemiologists might currently disagree. It'll all work out in time but this is still new science so you'll have more sharply disagreeing opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 I’m just here for the shaming campaign that was recently launched. Trumpers thought everyone would appease them all the way through to the end. Nope! PAIN is coming for those folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 24 minutes ago, Governor said: I’m just here for the shaming campaign that was recently launched. Trumpers thought everyone would appease them all the way through to the end. Nope! PAIN is coming for those folks. Oh? Please explain to us what this means. Just a heads up here @TBDSafetyBoard My popcorn is ready Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, B-Man said: Correct. And his "proclamation" yesterday on masks was absolutely disgusting and one of the worst moments in the history of the presidency. It did absolutely nothing. It was based on nothing. There was no stated goal. And he essentially threatened Americans to get an experimental vaccine for themselves in order to?? (Not clear) and since he didn't say this either but it's safe to imply, that will go for your newborns up thru 15 year olds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 1 minute ago, B-Man said: Now do abortion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, BillStime said: Now do abortion. Wow, you really pissed on logic with that one. BACK to the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 3 hours ago, BillStime said: “Happy” Anniversary! Did you watch the video? He didn't say any the like that. At least not in the clip you posted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 2 hours ago, BillStime said: What I think would perhaps cut down on some hesitancy would be for President Biden to acknowledge that the previous administration worked hard to get the vaccine we were told would take Yeats to develop and publicly thank him. And Trump should put out a blog post about how good President Biden is distributing it and encourage everyone to take it. If they were true leaders and cared about the country instead of getting one over on the other side and the next election, they would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 12 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: Did you watch the video? He didn't say any the like that. At least not in the clip you posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: What I think would perhaps cut down on some hesitancy would be for President Biden to acknowledge that the previous administration worked hard to get the vaccine we were told would take Yeats to develop and publicly thank him. And Trump should put out a blog post about how good President Biden is distributing it and encourage everyone to take it. If they were true leaders and cared about the country instead of getting one over on the other side and the next election, they would. Oh ok - life and death here and the GQP is obsessed with dear leader's need for constant adulation. Meanwhile: Biden receives Covid-19 vaccine, praises Trump's 'Operation Warp Speed' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 6 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: just like if all the vaccinated drop dead in five years because of some unforeseen autoimmune response from this failed for decades, never used before mRNA technology and no long term studies... same thing.. the world will keep spinning. I decided to get jabbed, but understand long term is unknown. Not sure I would agree to forcing kids who have little risk to get it. Only a sadistic person would force a child against their will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 (edited) 58 minutes ago, BillStime said: Oh ok - life and death here and the GQP is obsessed with dear leader's need for constant adulation. Meanwhile: Biden receives Covid-19 vaccine, praises Trump's 'Operation Warp Speed' OK. That's nice but it was 5 months ago. He wasn't even President yet. I was thinking it might be good now that we have this hesitancy thing. I said it would be nice if Trump could give some cred to President Biden, but Trump's gonna Trump. Would be nice if President Biden could be the bigger man for the sake of the country. Quote Biden also praised President Donald Trump for his administration's efforts in helping accelerate the process of bringing Covid-19 vaccines to Americans. "I think the administration deserves some credit getting this off the ground with Operation Warp Speed," Biden said. "This give us great hope," he said. Operation Warp Speed did not "get this off the ground" or "give us hope". It gave us several highly effective vaccines that are going to soon get us out of this. Edited May 14, 2021 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: OK. That's nice but it was 5 months ago. He wasn't even President yet. I was thinking it might be good now that we have this hesitancy thing. I said it would be nice if Trump could give some cred to President Biden, but Trump's gonna Trump. Would be nice if President Biden could be the bigger man for the sake of the country. Operation Warp Speed did not "get this off the ground" or "give us hope". It gave us several highly effective vaccines that are going to soon get us out of this. I think the word you're looking for is decorum - and Trump threw that out the window 5 years ago - so expectations of others needs to be adjusted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, BillStime said: OK he did say it there. 1 for 2 is not bad I guess. Does context mean anything? And, its true, if we didn't test we wouldn't find any but as he went on to say we are testing a lot which we were/are and had/have a lot of cases. Edited May 14, 2021 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 1 minute ago, reddogblitz said: OK he did say it there. Does context mean anything? And, its true, if we didn't test we wouldn't find any but as he went on to say we are testing a lot which we were/are and have a lot of cases. Just a stupid thing to say.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, BillStime said: I think the word you're looking for is decorum - and Trump threw that out the window 5 years ago - so expectations of others needs to be adjusted. The good news is he's not President any more. Time to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: The good news is he's not President any more. Time to move on. He's the leader of the GQP. Who..... really... needs to move on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Just now, BillStime said: He's the leader of the GQP. Who..... really... needs to move on? You do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: You do. Not gonna happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, BillStime said: Not gonna happen I know why the D's don't wanna move on though. Donald Trump is greatest fund raiser for D's since Newt Gingrich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 16 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: I know why the D's don't wanna move on though. Donald Trump is greatest fund raiser for D's since Newt Gingrich. No doubt... but with all due respect - Trump did quite well fund raising off his own under the guise of the Big Lie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, BillStime said: No doubt... but with all due respect - Trump did quite well fund raising off his own under the guise of the Big Lie! No Doubt ... Marketing is Trump's thing after all. Edited May 14, 2021 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Big Blitz said: Oh? Please explain to us what this means. Just a heads up here @TBDSafetyBoard My popcorn is ready Still waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Simple question media and everyone that's not a Chinese agent should be demanding How is any institution or business, or supposed to verify that people "allowed" to gather, are vaccinated? THE FACT THAT DETAIL WAS NOT ADDRESSED CONFIRMS THIS IS A SHAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Simple question media and everyone that's not a Chinese agent should be demanding How is any institution or business, or supposed to verify that people "allowed" to gather, are vaccinated? THE FACT THAT DETAIL WAS NOT ADDRESSED CONFIRMS THIS IS A SHAM Wait. You’re expecting Government to work out details of how things they propose are supposed to work? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 No really........ 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Remember “we must pass this Bill to find our what’s in it.” Now I’ve given Nancy a pass in that because I think she meant was “we need to pass this Bill to see how it works” But that’s just as incriminating. EDIT: And the whole mask thing is motherment saying “eat all your veggies and you get dessert!” 🙄 Edited May 14, 2021 by Chef Jim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: Only a sadistic person would force a child against their will Well, a child’s will to get vaccinated or not may not be the right barometer. As a parent my view is, the effect time has with this vaccine is a unknown. typical vaccine developments take a decade of trial and testing. All we know so far it it seems ok in limiting testing after a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Well, a child’s will to get vaccinated or not may not be the right barometer. As a parent my view is, the effect time has with this vaccine is a unknown. typical vaccine developments take a decade of trial and testing. All we know so far it it seems ok in limiting testing after a year. Obviously it's not.. I'm saying if this country forced children to get vaccinated against the will of their parents that's messed up And of course it was a rushed vaccine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Just now, Buffalo716 said: Obviously it's not.. I'm saying if this country forced children to get vaccinated against the will of their parents that's messed up And of course it was a rushed vaccine Yeah, I mean if they were at risk, different conversation but I think the flu is more deadly in children than Covid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Ok ok guys I got a shot and man do I feel great!!! Can I remove my mask now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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oldmanfan Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 43 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Ok ok guys I got a shot and man do I feel great!!! Can I remove my mask now? According to the CDC in two weeks then hell yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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