John Adams Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: So John I’m going to assume you’re in favor of immediately closing the southern border? Closing no. Closing to illegal immigration, 100%. Our border should be secure or it's not a border. Trump framed it poorly but illegal immigration needs to be addressed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, TSOL said: That's what you take from this? Unvaccinated people caused this? We're you dropped on the head alot as a child? They're gone. Totally lost. Story: Frank Reich, fully vaccinated sent home and put in isolation for testing positive for Covid. Responses from members of the Branch Covidians: "This is what's driving up Cases and hospitalizations. And it's Trump voters fault." Unbelievable. Either they really are this stupid or they are just deliberately hiding from and refusing to address everything they've been proven wrong about. Edited July 27, 2021 by Big Blitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 10 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: They're gone. Totally lost. Story: Frank Reich, fully vaccinated sent home and put in isolation for testing positive for Covid. Responses from members of the Branch Covidians: "This is what's driving up Cases and hospitalizations. And it's Trump voters fault." Unbelievable. Either they really are this stupid or they are just deliberately hiding from and refusing to address everything they've been proven wrong about. The data is being very manipulated and alot of people are falling for it, it is human nature to want to be "led" especially in times of uncertainty and crisis. I think it's comforting to people to have some all encompassing entity telling them what to do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 #resist. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/27/cdc-to-reverse-indoor-mask-policy-to-recommend-them-for-fully-vaccinated-people-in-covid-hot-spots.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, RiotAct said: #resist. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/27/cdc-to-reverse-indoor-mask-policy-to-recommend-them-for-fully-vaccinated-people-in-covid-hot-spots.html Agreed. As long as you're vaccinated and not in health care or contact with at risk people, s--t all over this idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Just now, John Adams said: Agreed. As long as you're vaccinated and not in health care or contact with at risk people, s--t all over this idea. sadly here in Western NY, at least in north Amherst (where two-thirds of women have the Kamala “little girl shadow” or RBG as their facebook profile pic), they’ll lap this shizz up unquestioningly, saying it’s an “act of kindness” or some similar nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2021/07/27/officially-off-the-rails-cdc-reportedly-set-to-recommend-that-vaccinated-people-resume-wearing-masks-indoors-under-certain-circumstances/ ‘Officially off the rails’: CDC reportedly set to recommend that vaccinated people resume wearing masks indoors ‘under certain circumstances’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, RiotAct said: sadly here in Western NY, at least in north Amherst (where two-thirds of women have the Kamala “little girl shadow” or RBG as their facebook profile pic), they’ll lap this shizz up unquestioningly, saying it’s an “act of kindness” or some similar nonsense. Same where I am. My biggest personal concern is at my gym. I have a really good setup at home but much prefer the camaraderie of lifting around others. If mask mandates drop again, I'm out. If I have to mask up at the grocery store, it's annoying but I will just do it again even though it's only the Jims of the world that need to be masked. I'll wait on final judgment to see what these recommendations are. "Under certain circumstances" may be reasonable, may not. Edited July 27, 2021 by John Adams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 cErTaIn CiRcUmStAnCeS 🤪 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 China Has Rejected A WHO Plan For Further Investigation Into The Origins Of COVID-19 "It is impossible for us to accept such an origin-tracing plan," he said at a news conference called to address the COVID-19 origins issue. https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/07/22/1019244601/china-who-coronavirus-lab-leak-theory That makes the lab origin look more possible now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Deaths down 10% in the last 2 weeks and cases down well you can see... 10% of India is vaccinated. Adults. 1.1 billion other people are not. And they've been "open" since early June. This makes no sense. But none of this is supposed to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhh9327 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 24 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Deaths down 10% in the last 2 weeks and cases down well you can see... 10% of India is vaccinated. Adults. 1.1 billion other people are not. And they've been "open" since early June. This makes no sense. But none of this is supposed to. I know this forum is more about political bickering than real conversation, but these stats for places like India just has to make any open minded person really wonder what is really going on and does anyone really have an actual clue. Lack of vaccine rates there in India and a population density more than 10x than the US, but yet 1/6th of the death rate per million people than the US to date. What about that makes any sense? It's been illogical from the start that the US, with our barely top 200 overall population density, was one of the worst countries in the world to be for COVID, especially if staying 6 feet part is really the key. The media and general population in the US always acts like the world revolves around us and ignores the rest of the planet, but this is a global pandemic. Why is it not more of a common topic of discussion on why hasn't this virus completely decimated other countries, who in proportion to ours basically live on top of each other, at a many times multiple death rate of ours who simply can't keep people apart as effectively or provide as adequate of care? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, jhh9327 said: I know this forum is more about political bickering than real conversation, but these stats for places like India just has to make any open minded person really wonder what is really going on and does anyone really have an actual clue. Lack of vaccine rates there in India and a population density more than 10x than the US, but yet 1/6th of the death rate per million people than the US to date. What about that makes any sense? It's been illogical from the start that the US, with our barely top 200 overall population density, was one of the worst countries in the world to be for COVID, especially if staying 6 feet part is really the key. The media and general population in the US always acts like the world revolves around us and ignores the rest of the planet, but this is a global pandemic. Why is it not more of a common topic of discussion on why hasn't this virus completely decimated other countries, who in proportion to ours basically live on top of each other, at a many times multiple death rate of ours who simply can't keep people apart as effectively or provide as adequate of care? This is why our "cases!" were where they were. They've been lying: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Trust everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 22 minutes ago, jhh9327 said: I know this forum is more about political bickering than real conversation, but these stats for places like India just has to make any open minded person really wonder what is really going on and does anyone really have an actual clue. Lack of vaccine rates there in India and a population density more than 10x than the US, but yet 1/6th of the death rate per million people than the US to date. What about that makes any sense? It's been illogical from the start that the US, with our barely top 200 overall population density, was one of the worst countries in the world to be for COVID, especially if staying 6 feet part is really the key. The media and general population in the US always acts like the world revolves around us and ignores the rest of the planet, but this is a global pandemic. Why is it not more of a common topic of discussion on why hasn't this virus completely decimated other countries, who in proportion to ours basically live on top of each other, at a many times multiple death rate of ours who simply can't keep people apart as effectively or provide as adequate of care? Death was good for the opposition party in 2020. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, John Adams said: Same where I am. My biggest personal concern is at my gym. I have a really good setup at home but much prefer the camaraderie of lifting around others. If mask mandates drop again, I'm out. If I have to mask up at the grocery store, it's annoying but I will just do it again even though it's only the Jims of the world that need to be masked. I'll wait on final judgment to see what these recommendations are. "Under certain circumstances" may be reasonable, may not. A reasonable perspective John but when does it end? Out here in California the answer is clear…it never ends. It’s literally impossible to achieve 100% vaccinations but idiotic public officials are setting that up as the ONLY way out. The beatings will continue until morale improves! Edited July 28, 2021 by SoCal Deek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 6 hours ago, jhh9327 said: I know this forum is more about political bickering than real conversation, but these stats for places like India just has to make any open minded person really wonder what is really going on and does anyone really have an actual clue. Lack of vaccine rates there in India and a population density more than 10x than the US, but yet 1/6th of the death rate per million people than the US to date. What about that makes any sense? It's been illogical from the start that the US, with our barely top 200 overall population density, was one of the worst countries in the world to be for COVID, especially if staying 6 feet part is really the key. The media and general population in the US always acts like the world revolves around us and ignores the rest of the planet, but this is a global pandemic. Why is it not more of a common topic of discussion on why hasn't this virus completely decimated other countries, who in proportion to ours basically live on top of each other, at a many times multiple death rate of ours who simply can't keep people apart as effectively or provide as adequate of care? When you’re getting such discrepancies in the outcomes of a non discriminatory pandemic you begin to question all the data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 28 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: When you’re getting such discrepancies in the outcomes of a non discriminatory pandemic you begin to question all the data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/07/26/the-i-just-left-the-er-variant-is-multiplying-on-twitter-warning-people-theyre-back-to-getting-crushed-by-covid-19/ SOMETHING’S SPREADING, AND IT’S NOT A VIRUS: The ‘I just left the ER’ variant is multiplying on Twitter, warning people they’re back to getting crushed by COVID-19. It’s everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, B-Man said: https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/07/26/the-i-just-left-the-er-variant-is-multiplying-on-twitter-warning-people-theyre-back-to-getting-crushed-by-covid-19/ SOMETHING’S SPREADING, AND IT’S NOT A VIRUS: The ‘I just left the ER’ variant is multiplying on Twitter, warning people they’re back to getting crushed by COVID-19. It’s everywhere. I have a good friend who works in ER in Alabama. I asked her about this. She said they are busy yes. But not with Covid cases. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Sound familiar? CDC Director Rochelle Walensky suggests that we just need ‘a couple of weeks’ of masking to slow the spread of COVID19 https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2021/07/28/sound-familiar-cdc-director-rochelle-walensky-suggests-that-we-just-need-a-couple-weeks-of-masking-to-slow-the-spread-of-covid19/ Dr. Anthony Fauci explains that ‘the CDC hasn’t really flip-flopped at all’ on masks, because he thinks you’re all stupid amnesiacs [video] https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2021/07/28/dr-anthony-fauci-explains-that-the-cdc-hasnt-really-flip-flopped-at-all-on-masks-because-he-thinks-youre-all-stupid-amnesiacs-video/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 If we had an honest media they'd be asking this question 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Please FOR THE LOVE OF GOD REMEMBER THIS COME ELECTION TIME. https://www.wgrz.com/article/news/local/poloncarz-indoor-mask-mandate-may-go-back-into-effect-for-erie-county-by-end-of-week/71-69d8f02a-e31d-410a-a057-8b5d7c562e90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, RiotAct said: Please FOR THE LOVE OF GOD REMEMBER THIS COME ELECTION TIME. https://www.wgrz.com/article/news/local/poloncarz-indoor-mask-mandate-may-go-back-into-effect-for-erie-county-by-end-of-week/71-69d8f02a-e31d-410a-a057-8b5d7c562e90 But New York voted for Biden! ---Morons somewhere Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Edited July 28, 2021 by Big Blitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: But New York voted for Biden! ---Morons somewhere Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Here in PA, I feel Governor Wolf learned something, and that's a credit to him. He stated today that there'd be no new state mask mandate, and no new state mask mandate for schools in the fall. I want to think he's come around to a bit more nuanced approach out of common sense, but I suspect the vote to curtail the governor's emergency powers did it. Since voters did that in May, he's been a different governor as it pertains to the pandemic. All of the restaurant lawsuits from the winter dropped, the mask mandate ended early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 13 minutes ago, dpberr said: I want to think he's come around to a bit more nuanced approach out of common sense, but I suspect the vote to curtail the governor's emergency powers did it. Since voters did that in May, he's been a different governor as it pertains to the pandemic. All of the restaurant lawsuits from the winter dropped, the mask mandate ended early. This is correct. It's always up to localities always f...ing should have been This was Trumps ultimate f up. Was allowing Fauci and President CDC to Essentially impose this crap nationwide. He could have and should have said "states and localities do what we've done always.....we'll see where the virus goes. The important thing is people must trust the b.s. you're about to be fed for the next......indefinitely." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 okay, apparently the renewed mandate is only in Erie County-owned facilities. Good. I like Poloncarz again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 CDC’s Mask Guidance Will Backfire National Review, by Editorial Begin with one simple fact: The Delta variant of COVID-19 is more contagious than the original virus, but it is not more dangerous or likely to kill you. If you are vaccinated and are exposed to it, you may get infected. This infection is likely to be mild; occasionally vaccinated people get sick. These symptoms are usually mild, manageable, and pass within a day or two. https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/07/cdcs-mask-guidance-will-backfire/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 23 hours ago, B-Man said: Sound familiar? CDC Director Rochelle Walensky suggests that we just need ‘a couple of weeks’ of masking to slow the spread of COVID19 https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2021/07/28/sound-familiar-cdc-director-rochelle-walensky-suggests-that-we-just-need-a-couple-weeks-of-masking-to-slow-the-spread-of-covid19/ Biden's CDC starting to quote Trump's plans! Good luck with that. I want to see the studies that she mentioned about vaccinated people transmitting. There has been very little evidence of that in credible studies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 The problem is the unvaccinated adults ( not those with medical reasons) who are screwing over the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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plenzmd1 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, ALF said: The problem is the unvaccinated adults ( not those with medical reasons) who are screwing over the country. How are they screwing over the country exactly? #1) cdc crazy lady says even vax people can get and spread virus, just like unvaxed people. So vaccine is more of a therapeutic I guess. People choose not to get vaccine just means they are refusing medicine to combat the effects of virus. So don’t really matter if you vaccinated or not. Or 2) vaccines are really vaccines , and only people at risk are unvaccinated. Maybe harsh, but screw em, their choice to get sick and possible die. Same as any other reckless behavior. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: How are they screwing over the country exactly? #1) cdc crazy lady says even vax people can get and spread virus, just like unvaxed people. So vaccine is more of a therapeutic I guess. People choose not to get vaccine just means they are refusing medicine to combat the effects of virus. So don’t really matter if you vaccinated or not. Or 2) vaccines are really vaccines , and only people at risk are unvaccinated. Maybe harsh, but screw em, their choice to get sick and possible die. Same as any other reckless behavior. By burdening the hospital systems and causing mitigation again. All unnecessary with ample vaccine available . Some nurses have had enough and are retiring , going to another field or just dropping out for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 minute ago, ALF said: By burdening the hospital systems and causing mitigation again. All unnecessary with ample vaccine available . Some nurses have had enough and are retiring , going to another field or just dropping out for now. Yea, the hospital systems were never over burdened in the first place. Show me where anyone died or was refused care due to any conditions at any hospital anywhere in the country outside of rural area that have 1 or 2 ICU beds and some folks needed to be transferred to larger hospitals. So I ask again, are these shots really vaccines are are they therapeutics. In either case, the only people unvaxed people are screwing over are themselves. And I don’t really care a whole lot when people make stupid choices that affect them. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 4 hours ago, ALF said: Some nurses have had enough and are retiring , going to another field or just dropping out for now. I think you'll find that the same could be said for virtually every single job title in America....no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 5 hours ago, ALF said: By burdening the hospital systems We're not. Never did. Never will. 5 hours ago, ALF said: and causing mitigation again. All unnecessary with ample vaccine available . People drunk on power cause mitigation 5 hours ago, ALF said: Some nurses have had enough and are retiring , going to another field or just dropping out for now. So are a lot of people from life.....suicide rates......mental health. Etc. There is an agenda here that won't be made clear until the sheep in media and their voters start demanding justification. It is solely because of those people that this is still on going as is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 what a mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, 716er said: what a mess Florida and Texas account for 1/3 of the US cases right now and 1/4 of the deaths. Super lopsided. Like the beginning of the pandemic with NY and NJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, Sundancer said: Florida and Texas account for 1/3 of the US cases right now and 1/4 of the deaths. Super lopsided. Like the beginning of the pandemic with NY and NJ. And I’ll say it again….RELAX. When people decide to get vaccinated, they’ll get vaccinated. It’s not complicated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 17 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: And I’ll say it again….RELAX. When people decide to get vaccinated, they’ll get vaccinated. It’s not complicated I’m drinking bourbon on my deck. Pretty relaxed, although there’s a mighty storm whipping up off the ocean with tornado watch on so things could get fun here shortly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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