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The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19


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34 minutes ago, BillStime said:


Oh tough guy - you can do it - cmon bring it on - when you got nothing else to defend the argument go after me over one of the poorest areas in America - CUZ IT IS. 


Not even close. I proved it to you and you didn’t even acknowledge the fact that you were absolutely wrong! 

27 minutes ago, Q-baby! said:

So you were being sarcastic? 


Ummmm no.  

30 minutes ago, meazza said:

 

It's the end of Ramadan so I'm pretty sure many people will be happy to return to Mosque for Eid.


Worst time of the year for Ramadan. What is it?  15 hours?  Or he’ll longer up north. 

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5 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:


Not even close. I proved it to you and you didn’t even acknowledge the fact that you were absolutely wrong! 


Ummmm no.  


Worst time of the year for Ramadan. What is it?  15 hours?  Or he’ll longer up north. 


Something like that.  Thank god i don’t do it as I can barely make it past 9 without a coffee. 

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17 minutes ago, meazza said:


Something like that.  Thank god i don’t do it as I can barely make it past 9 without a coffee. 


I work with a guy who said he has to go home around three because he has no energy. I don’t get it. 

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1 hour ago, meazza said:

 

It's the end of Ramadan so I'm pretty sure many people will be happy to return to Mosque for Eid.

God I hope not and that goes for all the places of worship. I certainly won’t be there. IMO, places of worship aren’t essential. If you need someone to tell you what to believe in than you have bigger problems and that’s not pointed at you @meazza  All worshippers should have a text book or internet at home. Tune in but don’t go. 

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4 hours ago, Justice said:

God I hope not and that goes for all the places of worship. I certainly won’t be there. IMO, places of worship aren’t essential. If you need someone to tell you what to believe in than you have bigger problems and that’s not pointed at you @meazza  All worshippers should have a text book or internet at home. Tune in but don’t go. 

Fortunately, you have no say on the matter, unless you are into arson of course.

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7 hours ago, Justice said:

God I hope not and that goes for all the places of worship. I certainly won’t be there. IMO, places of worship aren’t essential. If you need someone to tell you what to believe in than you have bigger problems and that’s not pointed at you @meazza  All worshippers should have a text book or internet at home. Tune in but don’t go. 

 

Luckily I don't have that problem because I don't believe in anything.  I'm a nihilist.  

 

 

 

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As far as I can tell we reached another milestone  yesterday. Friday was the first day in which NY State did not lead the nation in deaths.  PA and NJ took the top two spots but here again only four states were in excess of 100 Covid related deaths and only just barely.
 

Possibly an even more important stat is that 30 out of 50 states (60%) recorded no Covid deaths at all on Friday. 

Just now, SoCal Deek said:

As far as I can tell we reached another milestone  yesterday. Friday was the first day in which NY State did not lead the nation in deaths.  PA and NJ took the top two spots but here again only four states were in excess of 100 Covid related deaths and only just barely.
 

Possibly an even more important stat is that 30 out of 50 states (60%) recorded either single digit or zero Covid deaths on Friday. 

 

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7 hours ago, Justice said:

God I hope not and that goes for all the places of worship. I certainly won’t be there. IMO, places of worship aren’t essential. If you need someone to tell you what to believe in than you have bigger problems and that’s not pointed at you @meazza  All worshippers should have a text book or internet at home. Tune in but don’t go. 

This doesn’t seem at all arbitrary nor capricious.  

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3 hours ago, Reality Check said:

Fortunately, you have no say on the matter, unless you are into arson of course.

 

...unfortunately, there is a segment of the population that has nothing to cling to but their faith......perhaps parking lot services are a way to bridge the gap until a house of worship can re-open safely.....people like Osteen who exploit those people to the tune of $75 mil annually are vile....

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The CDC guidelines for opening places of worship are here. They are onerous.

 

During the last ten minutes of the press briefing, Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany takes the stage and is barraged with questions about opening the churches. Reporters who undoubtedly have no problem shopping at Costco, Target and Total Wine seem to view churches as unique centers of disease.

 

 

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1 minute ago, B-Man said:

The CDC guidelines for opening places of worship are here. They are onerous.

 

During the last ten minutes of the press briefing, Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany takes the stage and is barraged with questions about opening the churches. Reporters who undoubtedly have no problem shopping at Costco, Target and Total Wine seem to view churches as unique centers of disease.

 

 

Yeah, this has flipped into the tyranny category.  I have been at Home Depot, Lowes, the food store and the like and like clockwork, folks are buying such essentials as grills, paint, pavers and decking material. Limit is now 100 people or so, people ripping their masks off as soon as they clear the store exit.  

 

On the other hand, places of worship are targeted with no such allowances.  I'm not a church goer, have not been for years, but something is wrong here. 

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13 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Yeah, this has flipped into the tyranny category.  I have been at Home Depot, Lowes, the food store and the like and like clockwork, folks are buying such essentials as grills, paint, pavers and decking material. Limit is now 100 people or so, people ripping their masks off as soon as they clear the store exit.  

 

On the other hand, places of worship are targeted with no such allowances.  I'm not a church goer, have not been for years, but something is wrong here. 

 

...huh?...you mean your local mosques aren't open?.......

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12 hours ago, meazza said:

 

Well what can you do? Extreme poverty, in fact, the poorest neighborhood in America.  Do you expect people to know better?

 

Did I mention that they're poor?

 

@Chef Jim thoughts on the poorest place in the world?

 

Word has it that the 716 area code is the poorest place in the world.

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I was wondering how the CARE Act affected the FSA rules of "Use it or Lose it".  The rule was changed in 2013 (Thanks Obama) that you could "rollover" $500 of  your FSA to the next year (sarcastic yay) but anything else above that was lost.  So I looked up to see if there was any changes in the CARE Act regarding this seeing lots of non-insurance covered elective care and procedures have been canceled.  And what did I find?  YES!!  They have made changes to the FSA rules.  Here here they are:

 

1. Menstrual products are now reimbursable 

2. OTC drugs are now reimbursable without prescription (ummmm they are OTC) or a doctor's note (who get's a Dr's note anyway for OTC)

 

And that's it.  Those two things are sure to bring great sighs of relief to those who are struggling and boost our economy!   The forethought and wisdom of our government on display every day! 

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1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Yeah, this has flipped into the tyranny category.  I have been at Home Depot, Lowes, the food store and the like and like clockwork, folks are buying such essentials as grills, paint, pavers and decking material. Limit is now 100 people or so, people ripping their masks off as soon as they clear the store exit.  

 

On the other hand, places of worship are targeted with no such allowances.  I'm not a church goer, have not been for years, but something is wrong here. 

I’m amazed that Americans think they’re immune to the challenges that other countries have seen over the centuries. How do people think all of these failed attempts at socialism, communism, and totalitarianism got started? Do you think people woke up one day and said to themselves “let’s try a significant amount of freedom suppression for a change of pace”? No....there was almost always a convenient excuse falsely used to get people to freely give up their God given freedoms. The Left has been dying for just such a ‘crisis‘ here....and they believe they’ve found it in the corona virus.

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2 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Yeah, this has flipped into the tyranny category.  I have been at Home Depot, Lowes, the food store and the like and like clockwork, folks are buying such essentials as grills, paint, pavers and decking material. Limit is now 100 people or so, people ripping their masks off as soon as they clear the store exit.  

 

On the other hand, places of worship are targeted with no such allowances.  I'm not a church goer, have not been for years, but something is wrong here. 

I agree, Skin-erd. While I’ve never been a religious person, that’s not really germane to the issue here. Some comments in this thread seem judgmental about religion and/ or those who wish to attend houses of worship. This is about constitutional rights, and I fully support the folks who want to attend. They are being unfairly oppressed by tyrannical Governors, no two ways about it. 

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Having dictated last year what vaccines Christians must put in their bodies, now Maine Governor Janet Mills wants to dictate which churches Christians will be allowed to attend.
Mills prohibits ALL church gatherings, including drive-in church. She now says churches will not be able to reopen until she is satisfied with the "metrics," but she will not say what the "metrics" mean. So, there is no way to know when Gov. Mills will be satisfied.
Even after the "metrics" are reached, churches will have to apply to reopen, and will be chosen based on a checklist of requirements developed by the state. As of this writing, that checklist has not been released by the State of Maine.
Churches that fully comply with Gov. Mills' demands (whenever they are revealed), and are approved by her, will be given a "badge" to display outside their church indicating the church has fully complied and is approved by Mills.
The very idea of "Governor-Approved Churches" flies in the face of both the First Amendment and biblical principles of governance and lawful authority.
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7 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

Saw this on social media. No link available.

 

Having dictated last year what vaccines Christians must put in their bodies, now Maine Governor Janet Mills wants to dictate which churches Christians will be allowed to attend.
Mills prohibits ALL church gatherings, including drive-in church. She now says churches will not be able to reopen until she is satisfied with the "metrics," but she will not say what the "metrics" mean. So, there is no way to know when Gov. Mills will be satisfied.
Even after the "metrics" are reached, churches will have to apply to reopen, and will be chosen based on a checklist of requirements developed by the state. As of this writing, that checklist has not been released by the State of Maine.
Churches that fully comply with Gov. Mills' demands (whenever they are revealed), and are approved by her, will be given a "badge" to display outside their church indicating the church has fully complied and is approved by Mills.
The very idea of "Governor-Approved Churches" flies in the face of both the First Amendment and biblical principles of governance and lawful authority.


 I cannot wait to see how many of these mini-dictators get reelected.  The RNC may want to consider running some quality candidates (or at least supporting some quality candidates) in these states. Let's see if they flip. Are people really pissed off, or not?

 

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1 minute ago, shoshin said:

Hopefully this kind of crap doesn’t spread. 
 

 

 


No one should be forced to wear a mask.

I laugh at all the people who think a cloth mask is gonna do anything except prevent them from identifying the bandit that robbed them.

 

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1 minute ago, Buffalo_Gal said:


No one should be forced to wear a mask.

I laugh at all the people who think a cloth mask is gonna do anything except prevent them from identifying the bandit that robbed them.

 

 

Really hated the last part she said bang with her flowers. That's is so shameful and insulting. But if people wear mask's up to them but shouldn't be up to people weather for one health concerns. If they choose to do so (ones want to wear a mask)

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51 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:


No one should be forced to wear a mask.

 

Do you see someone being forced to wear a mask in that video?
 

I see a guy who has chosen to wear a mask getting chanted at. 

 

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I laugh at all the people who think a cloth mask is gonna do anything except prevent them from identifying the bandit that robbed them.

 


Are you still afraid of the rash of robberies that are going to break out because of masks? I think it’s safe to go out now. 

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45 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:


No one should be forced to wear a mask.

I laugh at all the people who think a cloth mask is gonna do anything except prevent them from identifying the bandit that robbed them.

 

Lol I really feel sorry for you having to go through life like that. ?

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52 minutes ago, shoshin said:

 

 

Are you still afraid of the rash of robberies that are going to break out because of masks? I think it’s safe to go out now. 


Er, you think no one has been robbed since the mask-craze took hold of the Karens? M'kay.

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1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said:


No one should be forced to wear a mask.

I laugh at all the people who think a cloth mask is gonna do anything except prevent them from identifying the bandit that robbed them.

 


Then why do they wear them in Asia ?

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17 minutes ago, meazza said:


Then why do they wear them in Asia ?


Air quality, no? 
 

(and considering the particles let in, I am not sure why they do wear cloth masks in Asia.)

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:


Air quality, no? 
 

(and considering the particles let in, I am not sure why they do wear cloth masks in Asia.)

 

 


No, they wear masks to prevent the spread of germs.  I’m reading a book called “salaryman” which talks about an Americans experience living and working in Japan.  When one employee caught the flu, the entire staff received a memo requiring masks.

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6 minutes ago, meazza said:


No, they wear masks to prevent the spread of germs.  I’m reading a book called “salaryman” which talks about an Americans experience living and working in Japan.  When one employee caught the flu, the entire staff received a memo requiring masks.


I’d hate to work in that environment. They likely don’t do that because they care about the health of their staff. They likely only care about productivity. 
 

And with how group health insurance is priced you’ll likely see more of that here. 

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5 minutes ago, meazza said:


No, they wear masks to prevent the spread of germs.  I’m reading a book called “salaryman” which talks about an Americans experience living and working in Japan.  When one employee caught the flu, the entire staff received a memo requiring masks.


Some people are not much for science. Even simple science. 

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