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The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19


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4 minutes ago, PaoloBillsFanFromItaly said:

I want to remark this because I saw your posts about the high mortality of the disease in Italy.

We count every death, there are no reserved information (I hope), but I want to remark this important difference.

And I repeat, the problem is not the letality, it is the HUGE number of people that require special cares in hospitals.

 

That, and the fact that if large numbers of people get sick at the same time, medical facilities are overwhelmed.  If you can bend the infection curve down so that not everyone gets sick at the same time, then the mortality rate goes down. 

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2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

Well, you've already stated that you've been here before but with a different name. I figured you had to be Baskin since I didn't think anyone else could be as dumb as him. God forbid you're not Baskin. If that's the case the world is a lot dumber than I thought. 

See you cannot even talk about this with reason, you get flustered and then call people dumb. That is why everyone keeps saying put you on ignore i guess.

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1 minute ago, Hardhatharry said:

TBH it is about the amount of money that is going to be needed to treat all these people. We already screwed things up by not taking precautions. I am just worriued about how much money it will cost b/c of being so slow to actually do anything.

Our national sanitary system is in good shape BUT we don't have the economic power to do things like China made, like building hospitals in two weeks.

 

This is the reason why Italy is "locked up".

The Lombardia region is very close to the collapse.

I will live in my home for the next month, I will work at home, I will go out only to buy food.

I am thinking about go running at sunrise, not too meet people.

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53 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

Horseshit. Trump has been on this since at least January with shutting down our borders and putting a response team together. You're still on your "hoax" bs even though you know that it never was true. Now, if we get it under control it will be because of the states but if we have problems it will be because of Trump. 

Please post the link of DTs comprehensive health care plan and financial  response to CV.....Please post a link of DT’s explanation of what we can expect in terms of virus spread, implications, mitigations and worst case and best case scenarios.

 

Maybe B man can help

 

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41 minutes ago, Hardhatharry said:

Wrong

Republicans and dems will never work together b/c trump has basically turned them into a childish fight. The gov't in America is horrible right now, nothing but people blaming each other for things instead of doing something about it. Sickening but people like 3rdnlng and many others fell prey to it and are hooked by it now. Even when someone shares something close they find a way to spin it into one party vs the other....

you really truly are an idiot. 

 

stop injecting politics into this, the virus doesn't care which way you lean!!!!!

 

meh, neither will ever work together because #orangemanbad!!!!!!!!

 

 

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you might try thinking about what you post before you hit the submit button, idiot.

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6 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said:


Do you curtail your parents activities due to the flu? Do you stop them from driving? Do you stop them from walking? That may come off as flip, but I am asking it seriously. You work in the ER so you see horrible things every single day. Does that stop you from living your life knowing that an accident, an illness, a random well ... anything, could incapacitate you or bring about your death? In other words, do you live in fear? Or do you live your life? (And no, I ain't bookin' a trip to Wuhan China tomorrow, but I will tell you that my son is already thinking about an Italian vacation when things settle down in Italy.)

We have had hair-on-fire end-of-the-world media driven apocalypses for many years now. This one is another in a long line. Swine flu, Ebola, Legionnaires disease, bird flu (and about 100 more)... all were going to lead to the destruction of the world.  Heck, this one may yet and people will be dancing on graves that they were correct. As for myself? It ain't livin' if I am hidin'.

 

To be clear, I am not a physician and do not work in the ER.  I do cardiovascular research, 2 of the investigators in our group are ER docs.

 

No, I do not curtail my parents activities due to the flu, but I am now as this is different. This is not the flu virus where worst case you're looking at an extreme immune reaction with pneumonia and sepsis.  Covid-19 in the lungs will directly attack and possibly permanently damage your lung tissue.  If you survive, it will be a most painful experience.

 

I think a very important thing to mention is while you quote similarities to flu statistics, Covid-19 is just ramping up and is most likely more infectious than the flu.  So statistical comparisons at this point are truly not valid.

 

Covid-19 will undoubtedly be more infectious than the flu and probably more lethal also.  But we won't know until it's all said and done.

 

I understand where you're coming from with all the previous viruses, and they have helped prepare us for this one.  Isolation and quarantine was what stamped out all those others, especially SARS.

 

The most important problem here is that infected people can be asymptomatic and still spread it.  That is a big problem and why for the first time large events are being cancelled and people like Nunes are self-quarantining.

 

We have a novel virus with currently little way of fighting those with severe infections.  It's not about an apocalypse it's about limiting or slowing its spread to keep deaths to a minimum while medical science addresses the problem.  

 

Hiding?  I'll be steelhead fishing, hiking, running, working, doing as much as I can while limiting exposure to others.  But if I need to "hide" for two to three weeks to squash the spread of this virus?  Damn right I will and I pray you see the sense in that also.  It's the intelligent way to be in this case.

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

Think of this as me who constantly tells you to ***** yourself asking you to join me in unity and multiply it by every media member/organization he has shat upon.

 

It's going to take more than a ***** tweet

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21 minutes ago, Foxx said:

you really truly are an idiot. 

 

stop injecting politics into this, the virus doesn't care which way you lean!!!!!

 

meh, neither will ever work together because #orangemanbad!!!!!!!!

 

 

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you might try thinking about what you post before you hit the submit button, idiot.

This guy is getting just as bad but his go to word when he gets flustered is "idiot"

11 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Lol that is funny. Welcome to what should have been done a few weeks ago lol

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11 minutes ago, Hardhatharry said:

This guy is getting just as bad but his go to word when he gets flustered is "idiot" ...

 

again, you got absolutely nothing. i catch you red handed, call you out and your defense is... this? absolutely nothing in defense, nothing.

 

 

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14 minutes ago, Gary Busey said:

 

Think of this as me who constantly tells you to ***** yourself asking you to join me in unity and multiply it by every media member/organization he has shat upon.

 

It's going to take more than a ***** tweet

 

The media has earned being crapped upon and not just since Trump. 

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29 minutes ago, TH3 said:

Please post the link of DTs comprehensive health care plan and financial  response to CV.....Please post a link of DT’s explanation of what we can expect in terms of virus spread, implications, mitigations and worst case and best case scenarios.

 

Maybe B man can help

 

Don't ask others to do your research Popgun.  Your TDS is showing.  

17 minutes ago, Gary Busey said:

 

Think of this as me who constantly tells you to ***** yourself asking you to join me in unity and multiply it by every media member/organization he has shat upon.

 

It's going to take more than a ***** tweet

I mean, Gary, go ***** yourself.  Just pass the sanitizer on your way.  Hahaha.  

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8 minutes ago, Foxx said:

again, you got absolutely nothing. i catch you red handed, call you out and your defense is... this? absolutely nothing in defense, nothing.

 

 

You never responded when talking about the virus and just called people an idiot so red handed in what?  You are the one who just ends up calling people idiot like the guy who calls people dumb when you have nothing left to say... you agenda driven people are just out of hand.

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From the start of the news of the coronavirus the Left has been criticizing Trump and his administration's response. At first he was being draconian by closing our borders to people from countries where the virus was widespread. Then when he appointed Pence to head up the response team he was criticized for not picking a medical person. After that it was just a litany of criticism about everything to do with fighting this virus. Trump calls the criticism a hoax and the dems and media claim over and over that Trump called the virus a hoax. Those of you that are saying Trump is being political about this are fullofshit. It never fails. Lefties always accuse the right of doing exactly what they themselves are doing. FU to those of you who are just here to spread your leftistvirus. 

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