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1 minute ago, Formerly Allan in MD said:

He appears more a power guy than a rusher with moves.

 

Huh?  We watching the same guy?    I see a guy with good movement and hand skills who's abusing the OTs with his speed/moves...

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Allen should watch tapes of Herbert's long run in the first quarter.  The guy tucked the ball the entire way.

1 minute ago, Lurker said:

 

Huh?  We watching the same guy?    I see a guy with good movement and hand skills who's abusing the OTs with his speed/moves...

He is fast/quick.

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Another Athletic write-up, this one on WR prospects at the Sr Bowl, from Matt Fairburn

 

https://theathletic.com/1560187/2020/01/24/wide-receiver-standouts-at-senior-bowl-show-the-bills-can-be-patient-in-2020-draft/

 

(subscription, trial available)

 

Spoiler: Fairburn's take in order.  Sounds like he's basing it largely off Dane Brugler's board?

Michael Pittman Jr., USC

6-foot-4 and 219 pounds, the son of former NFL running back Michael Pittman was a handful for opposing cornerbacks this week.

Boosting Pittman Jr.’s value is the fact that he can play special teams. He blocked four punts while at USC and is eager to play that role again in the NFL. Due to his size, some question his speed, but Pittman Jr. said he’ll quiet those concerns
 

Chase Claypool, Notre Dame

6-foot-4 and nearly 230 pounds and plays up to that size. Brugler pointed out that Claypool was showing off “freaky athleticism” during practice this week. (doesnt mention teams)

Antonio Gandy-Golden, Liberty

“He’s quiet in interview settings, but he plays like an alpha and that’s what matters,” one NFC scout said of Gandy-Golden. “He never played on special teams, so that will make him a tougher sell in the draft room.”

Collin Johnson, Texas

Unlike a lot of college receivers, Collin Johnson saw a fair amount of press coverage at Texas. He estimated that he saw press on 80 or 90 percent of his snaps. While that may be a bit high, Johnson was challenged at the line of scrimmage. At 6-foot-6 and 220 pounds, Johnson has the size to deal with NFL cornerbacks, but the question will be whether he’s quick enough and fast enough to beat that type of coverage in the NFL.

Jauan Jennings, Tennessee

Jauan Jennings is the type of physical presence currently lacking in the Bills’ receiver room. He led the nation in broken tackles by a receiver and brings value on special teams.

Denzel Mims, Baylor

 

 

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I’ve been loosely scanning my cable guide looking for the game...while forgetting AT&T dropped the NFLN (with no reduction in cost, of course). I switched over to DTV, and it’s already on the NFLN. THANKS, AT&T! ? 

Just now, Warcodered said:

That would of been an incredible play if Claypool had gotten his feet down.

 

The first play I saw, and it was an impressive effort. 

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5 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Kelly RB with over 100 yards in the Senior Bowl that's pretty good.

 

I liked his vision and gliding running style.    Always seemed to make good decisions.   

 

He'd be a nice complementary back to Motor, but probably raised his draft stock too much for the Bills to snag him now...

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2 hours ago, Lurker said:

Frustrating game so far for evaluating the WRs.   Bad O-line play with meh QB play is keeping the WRs on hold.

 

Guys who've impressed me so far are Bradlee Anae (edge, Utah) and Joshua Kelly (RB, UCLA)...

Draft Joshua Kelley as Devin's backup. The Bills would not regret this. He's a perfect McB type player. You might even get him in the 4th? Watched every game he played and he was the only quality player at UCLA. And he ran behind a bad oline.

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22 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Draft Joshua Kelley as Devin's backup. The Bills would not regret this. He's a perfect McB type player. You might even get him in the 4th? Watched every game he played and he was the only quality player at UCLA. And he ran behind a bad oline.

 

He was excellent in the game.   Sneaky smooth with great vision.    Totally different running style from Singletary, so yes, he'd be a nice change up.     I've read that he's a good receiver too.   

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3 minutes ago, Lurker said:

 

He was excellent in the game.   Sneaky smooth with great vision.    Totally different running style from Singletary, so yes, he'd be a nice change up.     I've read that he's a good receiver too.   

Kids' a stud with good character and attitude.  Great vision as you said and his oline at UCLA was awful. Good hands as a receiver. 

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1 minute ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Kids' a stud with good character and attitude.  Great vision as you said and his oline at UCLA was awful. Good hands as a receiver. 

 

He probably elevated his draft standing into the late 2nd/early 3rd round this week.   Not sure the Bills want to go RB that soon, but I'd be happy to have him...

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One guy nobody is talking about in Quartney Davis WR Texas A&M. This kid is impressive. I went to the practices. Strong lower body, thicker looking kid, great speed and route runner. Great hands and muscles through defenders to fight for the ball. 6’2 200 lbs. His build is what sets him apart. Had a solid game today too.... he’s in the third round talk, but I think he may be a steal. He’s legit.

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Just now, CEN-CAL17 said:

One guy nobody is talking about in Quartney Davis WR Texas A&M. This kid is impressive. I went to the practices. Strong lower body, thicker looking kid, great speed and route runner. Great hands and muscles through defenders to fight for the ball. 6’2 200 lbs. His build is what sets him apart. Had a solid game today too.... he’s in the third round talk, but I think he may be a steal. He’s legit.

 

I can see why a lot of scouts skip the game after the week of practices.   The WRs were almost afterthoughts today and it was really not much of a day to evaluate them.    I hope the coaching staff and scouts got a good read on guys they like during the week...

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10 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said:

One guy nobody is talking about in Quartney Davis WR Texas A&M. This kid is impressive. I went to the practices. Strong lower body, thicker looking kid, great speed and route runner. Great hands and muscles through defenders to fight for the ball. 6’2 200 lbs. His build is what sets him apart. Had a solid game today too.... he’s in the third round talk, but I think he may be a steal. He’s legit.

He lead the two teams in receptions at 4 but I hadn't seen much about him.

 

Also 2nd most receiving yards behind Darius Anderson RB.

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35 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

I am interested in what Beane thinks of Gandy-Golden. Kid looks big, fast, and good hands. 

I saw liberty a few times and he had some drops and can be moved off his spot in press

 

Isn't a polished route runner and doesn't play special teams so I'm thinking high of round 3 but probably round 4-5

 

He isn't super athletic for NFL terms but is really good at contested catches and that brings a Red zone quality

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On 1/24/2020 at 7:31 AM, Lurker said:

 

I'd love to see the Bills draft this kid in the 4th round.  He reminds me of the type of player the Pats used to pick that seemed sort of meh at first, but through smarts, technique and work ethic turned into an effective,  'Doh!  Why didn't we draft him?" kind of player.     

 

His moves are so silky and refined for a college player (albeit, a 23-year old playing against 18, 19, 20 year olds should have an edge) .  Now, with the top speed at the Senior Bowl, he looks even better.   

 

He'd have to play special teams at that draft slot, which I don't know if he can, but I want to follow this kid's career, wherever he lands...

 

 

 

Jefferson's dad is the "just give it to them" receiver from that 1998 atrocity in New England.

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My biggest take away watching bits of this and all of the Shrine game last week is that this is not a deep defensive draft. Not sure how many guys you are going to find after round 3 who have any chance of making an impact. I think the Bills probably want to take a pass rusher somewhere in their first 3 picks but if I was them I'd be happy to go offense the rest of the way from round 4 on. 

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21 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

He lead the two teams in receptions at 4 but I hadn't seen much about him.

 

Also 2nd most receiving yards behind Darius Anderson RB.

Watch his highlight video... it’s nice. And from what I saw of him this week I’m sold. I’d compare him to Jarvis Landry.

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12 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

 

Jefferson's dad is the "just give it to them" receiver from that 1998 atrocity in New England.

 

Serendipty!

 

And they said during the game that Jefferson was an accomplished gunner on the UF punt team--so all the better...

 

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8 hours ago, Lurker said:

I won't include the write up, but for those with an Athletic subscrition this is a good read.  Virtually all of these guys are at positions of need for the Bills and I'd bet 1-2 might be drafted by Beane, given how much he likes the Senior Bowl.   Hope we can get Van Jefferson, my favorite mid-round WR right now...   (sorry for the all bold, I can't get it to format right for some reason)

https://theathletic.com/1560854/2020/01/25/senior-bowl-stock-report-14-prospects-who-made-money-in-mobile/

Senior Bowl Stock Report: 14 prospects who made money in the senior bowl

Ben Bartch, OT, St. John’s (Minn.) (6-6, 308)

 

 

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/senior-bowl-sleeper-offensive-tackle-ben-bartch/

 

 

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3 hours ago, Formerly Allan in MD said:

Weaver can play.

 

Liked Weaver in college, but not sure he can cover ground in NFL

 

 

3 hours ago, Augie said:

I’ve been loosely scanning my cable guide looking for the game...while forgetting AT&T dropped the NFLN (with no reduction in cost, of course). I switched over to DTV, and it’s already on the NFLN. THANKS, AT&T! ? 

 

The first play I saw, and it was an impressive effort. 

 

must be your area, i have and have always had NFL network.

 

 

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Wide Receivers were unspectacular today, too bad Pittman didn't play. Quartney Davis looked good, but I wasn't floored by him.

 

Although it is true that today's QB play was inconsistent. Man I thought Patterson was bad but the QB from Colorado was atrocious.

 

The DB from Lenoir-Rhyne made a statement today.

 

The DE's or Edge players brought a lot of good pressure today.

 

That was not a touchdown for Gandy-Golden. He Robert Royal'd it.

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18 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

My biggest take away watching bits of this and all of the Shrine game last week is that this is not a deep defensive draft. Not sure how many guys you are going to find after round 3 who have any chance of making an impact. I think the Bills probably want to take a pass rusher somewhere in their first 3 picks but if I was them I'd be happy to go offense the rest of the way from round 4 on. 

 

They will be trading a lot of those late round picks.

 

 

10 minutes ago, Lurker said:

 

None of the OTs distinguished themselves in pass pro today.   It's just too tough to evaluate them in a game setting with only a week of practice...

 

Thats disappointing

 

 

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