Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 This article got referenced in the "Allen tried to do too much" thread, but I thought it was very on-point and deserved more looks. I think it's, unfortunately, quite on-point. Discuss! https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-playoffs-2020-bills-sean-mcdermott-coach-bad-calls/1hmflvozh6wsi1vbwi4iax3o7v 2 1 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 5, 2020 Author Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just want to give props to @wppete who posted it originally. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) Article makes a lot of valid points. Another question: what happened to the no-huddle the team was running so much in order to have Daboll talking into Allen's headset about what he saw as long as he could? We grabbed the lead and went into a shell. It's McDermott's coaching philosophy. Everyone likes to counter with our 4th down aggressiveness, but I don't think it's really a bold decision to go for it on 4th and short with our QB. I hope the whole "play fearless" mantra comes into play next season and for seasons to come as we work to become the new Kings of the AFC East... because at least Marsha lost today. Edited January 5, 2020 by transplantbillsfan 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 On McDermott's decision to go for it on 4th and 27: "It might have been the single worst decision any coach made in any NFL game this season." Ouch! McDermott has made too many in-game tactical errors for too long for anyone to argue this sort of thing is his strong suit. It's almost as bad as his challenge record. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offyourocker Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 No questions. We did all we could to lose this game. It was bizarre. If I see one more Gore run next year for half yard, I will stop watching football 3 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: On McDermott's decision to go for it on 4th and 27: "It might have been the single worst decision any coach made in any NFL game this season." Ouch! McDermott has made too many in-game tactical errors for too long for anyone to argue this sort of thing is his strong suit. It's almost as bad as his challenge record. He does a great job motivating his players and prepping them but the game day management has to be a serious concern for ownership I would think (or at least hope) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) It will be better for this team next year when Gore is not on it. He hasn't been effective for most of the season. Yeldon should have been in there instead. I think it was a respect thing to have him active and contributing, but effectiveness should always trump showing a vet player respect. If you are pleasantly surprised when your running back can get more than 1 yard on a play, that means you shouldn't be giving that player snaps. With Singletary, you're surprised if he gets stuffed for 1 yard. The most Gore should have been doing is pass protection on 3rd down. Edited January 5, 2020 by MJS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I really hoped Sean was the guy to bring some respectability back to the Bills. Now they’re talking about “ yet another in the list of epic Bills playoff losses”. That really sucks. It’s one thing to lose in the playoffs, but the more you look back at this one the more embarrassing it is. A 16-0 lead in the 2nd half should lead to a win in the playoffs, but McD was McDud tonight. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Yeah, this is just as much on Dumboll as it is on McDermott. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Some guys are good teachers and leaders, but not game managers. This is where I am with Dabol, it's not that his offense playbook is bad, I just don't think Dabol is a good playcaller. There's a difference. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 This article is spot on to the bone headed head scratching plays that the offense called at the end of the half and then all of the second quarter And to imagine they went all aggressive on the first possession of the gam. the decision to go for it on 4th and forever was the most idiotic play with all three timeouts ever... Either kick it or punt and hope your d holds Unfortunately I expect McDermott to do same things next year and not realize that you need to keep pressing the offense until you have the other team buried. FG's do not win games period yet they went ultra conservative up 16-0 like the game was over. this wont be the last time either 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I'm just going to say this. Yes the coaches had their worst game of the season. Maybe the McD era. But what I think happened was they mistakenly stuck to a formula that worked all season. I can't blame them....but in this case I just have to "Oh we're up 16 with 17 minutes left? Our D has this." Why would they feel like it was in the bag? Because we dominated the first half. False, horribly false sense of security. They underestimated Watson, the best QB we've played all year and what they do in the 2nd half and I think a lot of fans are missing that tonight. He is so friggin good. A great QB made 2 guys miss on that (2nd) dagger play. The first being the 3rd and 18. That play is on the coaches. Watson is just special. A great QB made great plays. He only attempted 25 passes. They scored TDs. We didn't. Total total team loss. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 God man! Just reflecting back on that sequence at the end of the 1st half irritates the heck outta me!!! Ball just outside of the red zone at the 23 with 30 seconds left in the half with the clock stopped after driving pretty much the entire length of the field and you hand it to Gore up the middle??? Seriously?!?!?! And then Allen is forced to waste another play by spiking it? 15 seconds and 2 plays wasted in a 30 second range where we had plenty of time to potentially score a TD. 10 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 5, 2020 Author Share Posted January 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: God man! Just reflecting back on that sequence at the end of the 1st half irritates the heck outta me!!! Ball just outside of the red zone at the 23 with 30 seconds left in the half with the clock stopped after driving pretty much the entire length of the field and you hand it to Gore up the middle??? Seriously?!?!?! And then Allen is forced to waste another play by spiking it? 15 seconds and 2 plays wasted in a 30 second range where we had plenty of time to potentially score a TD. I know, right? The author nails it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 27 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: On McDermott's decision to go for it on 4th and 27: "It might have been the single worst decision any coach made in any NFL game this season." Ouch! McDermott has made too many in-game tactical errors for too long for anyone to argue this sort of thing is his strong suit. It's almost as bad as his challenge record. His tactical and time management abilities are terrible. He's a great DC trying to ride the process as a successful HC. It's not working yet? Hopefully Sean can learn from someone. Somehow. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 5, 2020 Author Share Posted January 5, 2020 25 minutes ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: Some guys are good teachers and leaders, but not game managers. This is where I am with Dabol, it's not that his offense playbook is bad, I just don't think Dabol is a good playcaller. There's a difference. I think some aspects of Daboll's playbook are bad - or maybe you wouldn't call it the playbook, the personnel decisions. He's too cute. "I know, let's send DiMarco, they won't expect that" If DiMarco were outplaying Knox all season, why have we seen Knox all season? Was Knox banged up or something? It's mind-boggling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: God man! Just reflecting back on that sequence at the end of the 1st half irritates the heck outta me!!! Ball just outside of the red zone at the 23 with 30 seconds left in the half with the clock stopped after driving pretty much the entire length of the field and you hand it to Gore up the middle??? Seriously?!?!?! And then Allen is forced to waste another play by spiking it? 15 seconds and 2 plays wasted in a 30 second range where we had plenty of time to potentially score a TD. We don't play for TDs and we don't put teams away, it has been who we were through the entire season. Yes I wanted a 300yard 4TD game from Josh a few times, not just for Josh though - it is to see that we can put the game a away and stomp on a team and stay on for the full 60 minutes = we don't do that. Is it coaching philosophy or is it a fear of mistakes from poor execution by the offense? I think it is a bit of both, but mostly coaching 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 5, 2020 Author Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, LABILLBACKER said: His tactical and time management abilities are terrible. He's a great DC trying to ride the process as a successful HC. It's not working yet? Hopefully Sean can learn from someone. Somehow. My only hope if we stick with Daboll, is that he and McDermott do a deep-dive retreat and invite someone outside to give input into their play calling and coaching decisions. The problem with someone internal, and lower in the heirarchy, is that there will always be the concern for "career limiting moves" if it's taken wrong. 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: We don't play for TDs and we don't put teams away, it has been who we were through the entire season. Yes I wanted a 300yard 4TD game from Josh a few times, not just for Josh though - it is to see that we can put the game a away and stomp on a team and stay on for the full 60 minutes = we don't do that. Is it coaching philosophy or is it a fear of mistakes from poor execution by the offense? I think it is a bit of both, but mostly coaching You're absolutely right. We need to learn that killer "step on their throat!" instinct. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I mean what are you trying to do on 4th and 27? Hope for either a miracle touchdown or a pick in the end zone to pin them back at their 20? It's amazing we even got the ball back to tie it thanks to O'Brien. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Doc Brown said: I mean what are you trying to do on 4th and 27? Hope for either a miracle touchdown or a pick in the end zone to pin them back at their 20? It's amazing we even got the ball back to tie it thanks to O'Brien. or PI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, Reed83HOF said: or PI It showed me he didn't have a lot of faith in his kicker or punter. Also, you think you're going to get a PI when they haven't called one in play penalty on the Texans all day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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