chris heff Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Boca? Is this a question for me? Do you want me to man my post in Pegula’s bushes? What should I watch for? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, BigBuff423 said: Absolutely agree that "ups and downs" are in fact part of the development of any person, let alone an NFL QB. And I'm not saying that a "bad game" against the Broncos indicate "he is a bust". What I AM saying, is that against better Defenses he's struggled consistently over the course of the last 1+ seasons and that in order to demonstrate true NFL QB permanency, he needs to be better against those Defenses and the Broncos game is a start (but also not a 'finish' if he doesn't do well). Essentially, let's celebrate the great week and the fact he's grown over this season and remarkably so since the *Pats game. But, let's keep in mind that his upward trend toward a good to great NFL QB will still take multiple games against good Defenses and continuous development before we can all feel rest assured he is in fact, the QB the Bills have been searching for since Kelly retired. I mean, I agree, I want him to do well against a good defense. Here is the thing, good defenses make QBs play bad. That is why they are good. What I look for is objectively good performances against defenses not in the top 5. Against the top 5, I am looking for enough good plays to get the win. Meaning, a performance I would think is "not good" against other defenses, is more than acceptable against a top 5 defense. Edited November 20, 2019 by JoshAllenHasBigHands 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: I mean, I agree, I want him to do well against a good defense. Here is the thing, good defenses make QBs play bad. That is why they are good. What I look for is objectively good performances against defenses not in the top 5. Against the top 5, I am looking for enough good plays to get the win. Meaning, a performance I would think is "not good" against other defenses, is more than acceptable against a top 5 defense. Without picking a part words / phrases or being over analytical, I agree with your overarching opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 hours ago, 1ManRaid said: The video on NFL.com showing Brown's fantasy day is fun too. Yes! I have John Brown so I loved all of it. Picked him up about 4 weeks ago after a dummy dropped him for Alshon Jeffery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 16 minutes ago, BigBuff423 said: Without picking a part words / phrases or being over analytical, I agree with your overarching opinion. I mean, if we aren't picking apart words and phrases, what the hell are we even doing here? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 4 hours ago, BarleyNY said: Good for Allen. I am a bit surprised because I expected Jackson to get it after that game against Houston. Similar overall numbers (so it was deserved), but I didn’t expect Buffalo/Allen to get love from the national media over Baltimore/Jackson. Lamar has to have a few of these under his belt, perhaps they were just trying to spread the love a bit. He did have another great performance though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiva Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Awesome!! Congrats to our QB!! He had a great game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Theres Something about that second game vs phish... just like last year edit it it looks like josh is the first Bill to win this since Drew Bledsoe in 2002. Edited November 20, 2019 by Over 29 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 I wonder how many rage induced comas this triggered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 minute ago, jeremy2020 said: I wonder how many rage induced comas this triggered Why would this make anyone angry? Josh played extremely well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Holy cow! Whodda thunk that'd happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, r00tabaga said: Its a message board. Grow some coconuts bro & lighten up. Ive personally "liked, lol'd & meh'd" some of your posts over the months. Doesn't mean much. Nobody here hates you, lol. Yeah they do. ? Edited November 20, 2019 by Patrick_Duffy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenosha2Buffalo Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Well deserved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 minute ago, transplantbillsfan said: Holy cow! Whodda thunk that'd happen Daboll was too short for the sideline. He can read the field and tell Josh what to do from up top. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said: Daboll was too short for the sideline. He can read the field and tell Josh what to do from up top. It's been proven that there's not enough time to have Dabs read the field, see the coverage AND relay to Josh the play call & protection. What nohuddling DOES is it allows Allen to do get to the line and adjust on his own "silently". Com is cut off at 15. Edited November 20, 2019 by r00tabaga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Congrats Josh Well deserved The best part is that his teammates already know the kind of leader he is and respect him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 4 hours ago, BigBuff423 said: I was in the camp of seriously questioning Beane's decision to Draft Allen but once he was Drafted, I embraced him as the Buffalo Bills QB and never looked back hoping it was the right decision. That said, I've also been one carefully watching his development and his challenges to see if he can actually improve in the areas that have been rehearsed and debated ad nauseum. His Pats game was without a doubt concerning as I thought we'd see a major set-back from the year 2 progress I, along with everyone else, hoped and believed we'd see - given his final quarter of games last year. So his last four to five games have been mildly encouraging to see his upward trend toward marked improvement. This last week against Miami was terrific and he's earned this recognition and I truly hope the upward trajectory continues over the rest of the season. But, and this is important, this week's success - while sweet and enjoyable - will be nullified if he does not continue to grow and mature to the point of being a very good to great QB. This week we need to see continuity of improvement, continued good decision-making against a much better pass Defense, reading and adjusting to what the Defense gives him, smart runs not panicked ones, check-downs, etc. I believe we will see it - but needs to show itself before we can breath the collective sigh of relief that we've all been hoping for in the realm of a Franchise QB. Unfortunately progress isn't linear. Like the stock market the graph goes up and down at the end of the investment period you want it at its peak. Every QB has peaks a valleys its how you respond after a poor game that counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: That little stat on the bottom's gonna be tough for the critics to explain away. Yep; people around here think 300+ yards is more important than TDs. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the primitive goal of football is to get the ball over your opponent's goal line or through their uprights, and to prevent the other team from doing the same to you??? Edited November 20, 2019 by Lieutenant Aldo Raine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber21 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Here are the 2018 QBs total tds so far this season Lamar Jackson 25 td Josh Allen 20 tds Baker Mayfield 13 tds Sam Darnold 12 tds Josh rosen 1 tds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Let's face it, any QB would be in the Pro Bowl if he could play against the Dolphins every week. I'm actually more impressed with how Allen played the past few games against better DBs, better pass rushes, better LBs. He's being careful, which is what he needs to do. His progression is very promising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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