Monday pressers at TBD - McDermott, Daboll, & Frazier

[Hapless Bills Fan]

Daboll

https://www.buffalobills.com/video/brian-daboll-keep-working

 

Could just be me  but between McD's pressor about "coaching his coaches", Daboll's demeanor, and this little suck/lip smack sound he makes, I believe it is possible he got taken to the woodshed today.  He kind of had a similar demeanor after the GB game.

 

Or maybe I wrong him.  Maybe he takes himself.

 

[billsfan_34]

28 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

Daboll

https://www.buffalobills.com/video/brian-daboll-keep-working

 

Could just be me  but between McD's pressor about "coaching his coaches", Daboll's demeanor, and this little suck/lip smack sound he makes, I believe it is possible he got taken to the woodshed today.  He kind of had a similar demeanor after the GB game.

 

Or maybe I wrong him.  Maybe he takes himself.

 

Daboll has the demeanor of a man that recently received a stern talkin’ to! I have a feeling he is on a short leash.

[Warcodered]

 

[H2o]

34 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

Daboll

https://www.buffalobills.com/video/brian-daboll-keep-working

 

Could just be me  but between McD's pressor about "coaching his coaches", Daboll's demeanor, and this little suck/lip smack sound he makes, I believe it is possible he got taken to the woodshed today.  He kind of had a similar demeanor after the GB game.

 

Or maybe I wrong him.  Maybe he takes himself.

 

I believe you are correct in your assessment my friend. 

 

4 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said:

Daboll has the demeanor of a man that recently received a stern talkin’ to! I have a feeling he is on a short leash.

One can only hope the leash is short after the s*** playcalling we have seen for about half of each game this year. 

[Chill]

Sounds like an OC who is handcuffed by his QB and his 8 fumbles. Not good enough. They have to do a better job at fundamentals and techniques. 

[Boatdrinks]

3 minutes ago, Chill said:

Sounds like an OC who is handcuffed by his QB and his 8 fumbles. Not good enough. They have to do a better job at fundamentals and techniques. 

If the QB fumbling is a known issue, why all the designed runs ? Having him run a QB sweep backed up in their own end sounds foolish, no? They do have RBs on the team, but that seems lost on Daboll. 

[fansince88]

47 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

Daboll

https://www.buffalobills.com/video/brian-daboll-keep-working

 

Could just be me  but between McD's pressor about "coaching his coaches", Daboll's demeanor, and this little suck/lip smack sound he makes, I believe it is possible he got taken to the woodshed today.  He kind of had a similar demeanor after the GB game.

 

Or maybe I wrong him.  Maybe he takes himself.

 

You are right. That then following up with the McD video cements that truth.

[billsfan_34]

2 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

If the QB fumbling is a known issue, why all the designed runs ? Having him run a QB sweep backed up in their own end sounds foolish, no? They do have RBs on the team, but that seems lost on Daboll. 

Gore don’t fumble...just sayin

[jkeerie]

48 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

Daboll

https://www.buffalobills.com/video/brian-daboll-keep-working

 

Could just be me  but between McD's pressor about "coaching his coaches", Daboll's demeanor, and this little suck/lip smack sound he makes, I believe it is possible he got taken to the woodshed today.  He kind of had a similar demeanor after the GB game.

 

Or maybe I wrong him.  Maybe he takes himself.

 

It would stand to reason.   The winds are howling.   He should have taken a cue from Pedersen and run the football.   What was he trying to prove?

[Chill]

4 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

If the QB fumbling is a known issue, why all the designed runs ? Having him run a QB sweep backed up in their own end sounds foolish, no? They do have RBs on the team, but that seems lost on Daboll. 

I think Dabs knows there are RBs on the team. Dabs like the extra blocker for the qb option runs. It’s a talent issue. Josh has to answer next week and get better at protecting the football. 

Edited October 29, 2019 by Chill

[Ayjent]

Daboll should be ashamed of that crap game plan against a terrible secondary. I know the weather sucked I was there, but you don’t draft a kid with a rocket arm to try to establish a running game against a stout run d and a terrible secondary.  Let the kid play QB and stop trying to use him as a running back.  They didn’t come out and attack and I still am baffled by the choice to accept the opening kickoff and come out with those plays called. 

 

I thought they tried running way too much and their formations were huge tells that they were running, and didn’t use screens enough.  

Edited October 29, 2019 by Ayjent

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

Once again, for some reason (every week), McD and Frazier PCs are uploaded to Bills Mobile but Daboll's is not. This is so odd. I wish there were a way to ask why this is.

[Punching Bag]

1 hour ago, billsfan_34 said:

Gore don’t fumble...just sayin

 

Just some facts. 46 fumbles in 202 games (3477 rushes, 462 receptions).  It does not list whether he had any fumbles on special teams plays.

 

 

					Games		Rushing								Receiving											Total Yds
Year	Age	Tm	Pos	No.	G	GS	Rush	Yds	TD	1D	Lng	Y/A	Y/G	A/G	Tgt	Rec	Yds	Y/R	TD	1D	Lng	R/G	Y/G	Ctch%	Y/Tgt	Touch	Y/Tch	YScm	RRTD	Fmb	AV
Career					217	202	3477	15170	79	690	80	4.4	69.9	16.0	670	462	3844	8.3	18	154	55	2.1	17.7	69.0%		3939	4.8	19014	97	46	125
10 yrs		SFO			148	134	2442	11073	64	497	80	4.5	74.8	16.5	503	342	2883	8.4	11	110	55	2.3	19.5	68.0%		2784	5.0	13956	75	36	95
3 yrs		IND			48	48	784	2953	13	147	37	3.8	61.5	16.3	143	101	789	7.8	6	34	49	2.1	16.4	70.6%		885	4.2	3742	19	9	25
1 yr		BUF			7	6	95	422	2	21	41	4.4	60.3	13.6	8	7	48	6.9	0	2	13	1.0	6.9	87.5%		102	4.6	470	2	0
1 yr		MIA			14	14	156	722	0	25	39	4.6	51.6	11.1	16	12	124	10.3	1	8	24	0.9	8.9	75.0%		168	5.0	846	1	1	5
2005	22	SFO	rb	21	14	1	127	608	3	27	72	4.8	43.4	9.1	22	15	131	8.7	0	4	47	1.1	9.4	68.2%	6.0	142	5.2	739	3	2	4
2006*	23	SFO	RB	21	16	16	312	1695	8	67	72	5.4	105.9	19.5	86	61	485	8.0	1	23	39	3.8	30.3	70.9%	5.6	373	5.8	2180	9	6	16
2007	24	SFO	RB	21	15	15	260	1102	5	42	43	4.2	73.5	17.3	69	53	436	8.2	1	20	23	3.5	29.1	76.8%	6.3	313	4.9	1538	6	4	9
2008	25	SFO	RB	21	14	14	240	1036	6	44	41	4.3	74.0	17.1	66	43	373	8.7	2	13	26	3.1	26.6	65.2%	5.7	283	5.0	1409	8	6	10
2009*	26	SFO	RB	21	14	14	229	1120	10	47	80	4.9	80.0	16.4	75	52	406	7.8	3	14	48	3.7	29.0	69.3%	5.4	281	5.4	1526	13	4	12
2010	27	SFO	RB	21	11	11	203	853	3	42	64	4.2	77.5	18.5	72	46	452	9.8	2	15	41	4.2	41.1	63.9%	6.3	249	5.2	1305	5	4	8
2011*	28	SFO	RB	21	16	15	282	1211	8	55	55	4.3	75.7	17.6	31	17	114	6.7	0	4	13	1.1	7.1	54.8%	3.7	299	4.4	1325	8	2	10
2012*	29	SFO	RB	21	16	16	258	1214	8	68	37	4.7	75.9	16.1	36	28	234	8.4	1	10	26	1.8	14.6	77.8%	6.5	286	5.1	1448	9	3	10
2013*	30	SFO	RB	21	16	16	276	1128	9	50	51	4.1	70.5	17.3	27	16	141	8.8	0	5	29	1.0	8.8	59.3%	5.2	292	4.3	1269	9	3	9
2014	31	SFO	RB	21	16	16	255	1106	4	55	52	4.3	69.1	15.9	19	11	111	10.1	1	2	55	0.7	6.9	57.9%	5.8	266	4.6	1217	5	2	7
2015	32	IND	RB	23	16	16	260	967	6	48	37	3.7	60.4	16.3	58	34	267	7.9	1	11	34	2.1	16.7	58.6%	4.6	294	4.2	1234	7	4	7
2016	33	IND	RB	23	16	16	263	1025	4	50	22	3.9	64.1	16.4	47	38	277	7.3	4	14	49	2.4	17.3	80.9%	5.9	301	4.3	1302	8	2	10
2017	34	IND	RB	23	16	16	261	961	3	49	21	3.7	60.1	16.3	38	29	245	8.4	1	9	26	1.8	15.3	76.3%	6.4	290	4.2	1206	4	3	8
2018	35	MIA	RB	21	14	14	156	722	0	25	39	4.6	51.6	11.1	16	12	124	10.3	1	8	24	0.9	8.9	75.0%	7.8	168	5.0	846	1	1	5
2019	36	BUF	RB	20	7	6	95	422	2	21	41	4.4	60.3	13.6	8	7	48	6.9	0	2	13	1.0	6.9	87.5%	6.0	102	4.6	470	2	0

[billsfan_34]

11 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

Just some facts. 46 fumbles in 202 games (3477 rushes, 462 receptions).  It does not list whether he had any fumbles on special teams plays.

 

 

					Games		Rushing								Receiving											Total Yds
Year	Age	Tm	Pos	No.	G	GS	Rush	Yds	TD	1D	Lng	Y/A	Y/G	A/G	Tgt	Rec	Yds	Y/R	TD	1D	Lng	R/G	Y/G	Ctch%	Y/Tgt	Touch	Y/Tch	YScm	RRTD	Fmb	AV
Career					217	202	3477	15170	79	690	80	4.4	69.9	16.0	670	462	3844	8.3	18	154	55	2.1	17.7	69.0%		3939	4.8	19014	97	46	125
10 yrs		SFO			148	134	2442	11073	64	497	80	4.5	74.8	16.5	503	342	2883	8.4	11	110	55	2.3	19.5	68.0%		2784	5.0	13956	75	36	95
3 yrs		IND			48	48	784	2953	13	147	37	3.8	61.5	16.3	143	101	789	7.8	6	34	49	2.1	16.4	70.6%		885	4.2	3742	19	9	25
1 yr		BUF			7	6	95	422	2	21	41	4.4	60.3	13.6	8	7	48	6.9	0	2	13	1.0	6.9	87.5%		102	4.6	470	2	0
1 yr		MIA			14	14	156	722	0	25	39	4.6	51.6	11.1	16	12	124	10.3	1	8	24	0.9	8.9	75.0%		168	5.0	846	1	1	5
2005	22	SFO	rb	21	14	1	127	608	3	27	72	4.8	43.4	9.1	22	15	131	8.7	0	4	47	1.1	9.4	68.2%	6.0	142	5.2	739	3	2	4
2006*	23	SFO	RB	21	16	16	312	1695	8	67	72	5.4	105.9	19.5	86	61	485	8.0	1	23	39	3.8	30.3	70.9%	5.6	373	5.8	2180	9	6	16
2007	24	SFO	RB	21	15	15	260	1102	5	42	43	4.2	73.5	17.3	69	53	436	8.2	1	20	23	3.5	29.1	76.8%	6.3	313	4.9	1538	6	4	9
2008	25	SFO	RB	21	14	14	240	1036	6	44	41	4.3	74.0	17.1	66	43	373	8.7	2	13	26	3.1	26.6	65.2%	5.7	283	5.0	1409	8	6	10
2009*	26	SFO	RB	21	14	14	229	1120	10	47	80	4.9	80.0	16.4	75	52	406	7.8	3	14	48	3.7	29.0	69.3%	5.4	281	5.4	1526	13	4	12
2010	27	SFO	RB	21	11	11	203	853	3	42	64	4.2	77.5	18.5	72	46	452	9.8	2	15	41	4.2	41.1	63.9%	6.3	249	5.2	1305	5	4	8
2011*	28	SFO	RB	21	16	15	282	1211	8	55	55	4.3	75.7	17.6	31	17	114	6.7	0	4	13	1.1	7.1	54.8%	3.7	299	4.4	1325	8	2	10
2012*	29	SFO	RB	21	16	16	258	1214	8	68	37	4.7	75.9	16.1	36	28	234	8.4	1	10	26	1.8	14.6	77.8%	6.5	286	5.1	1448	9	3	10
2013*	30	SFO	RB	21	16	16	276	1128	9	50	51	4.1	70.5	17.3	27	16	141	8.8	0	5	29	1.0	8.8	59.3%	5.2	292	4.3	1269	9	3	9
2014	31	SFO	RB	21	16	16	255	1106	4	55	52	4.3	69.1	15.9	19	11	111	10.1	1	2	55	0.7	6.9	57.9%	5.8	266	4.6	1217	5	2	7
2015	32	IND	RB	23	16	16	260	967	6	48	37	3.7	60.4	16.3	58	34	267	7.9	1	11	34	2.1	16.7	58.6%	4.6	294	4.2	1234	7	4	7
2016	33	IND	RB	23	16	16	263	1025	4	50	22	3.9	64.1	16.4	47	38	277	7.3	4	14	49	2.4	17.3	80.9%	5.9	301	4.3	1302	8	2	10
2017	34	IND	RB	23	16	16	261	961	3	49	21	3.7	60.1	16.3	38	29	245	8.4	1	9	26	1.8	15.3	76.3%	6.4	290	4.2	1206	4	3	8
2018	35	MIA	RB	21	14	14	156	722	0	25	39	4.6	51.6	11.1	16	12	124	10.3	1	8	24	0.9	8.9	75.0%	7.8	168	5.0	846	1	1	5
2019	36	BUF	RB	20	7	6	95	422	2	21	41	4.4	60.3	13.6	8	7	48	6.9	0	2	13	1.0	6.9	87.5%	6.0	102	4.6	470	2	0

1 in close to 4-5 games. This season Gore has taken care of the football. My comment was alluding to that but thank you for the stats- much appreciated.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 hours ago, Boatdrinks said:

If the QB fumbling is a known issue, why all the designed runs ? Having him run a QB sweep backed up in their own end sounds foolish, no? They do have RBs on the team, but that seems lost on Daboll. 

 

Even if he thinks the QB fumbling is under control, Allen had just been stripped (and recovered) earlier in the game.  So maybe put that playcall aside for another day.

 

 

[1st Ammendment NoMas]

As much as I want to root for a fellow Red Raider, Daboll has to go. We need a better OC who can call a game that keeps a defense guessing, not licking their chops as they know the play by the personnel on the field. WTF! We need some new blood in this offense.

[Dr.Mantis_Toboggan]

4 hours ago, Chill said:

I think Dabs knows there are RBs on the team. Dabs like the extra blocker for the qb option runs. It’s a talent issue. Josh has to answer next week and get better at protecting the football. 

Bs. He has plenty of TEs and a FB in Dimarco

if he wants an “extra blocker”.  Daboll is awful, his resume speaks for itself.  

[iinii]

31 minutes ago, Dr.Mantis_Toboggan said:

Bs. He has plenty of TEs and a FB in Dimarco

if he wants an “extra blocker”.  Daboll is awful, his resume speaks for itself.  

But that resume includes NE and Alabama. Oh wait, they are still winning without him. My bad......

[EmotionallyUnstable]

I wonder why they've gotten away from 5 wide and 2x2 spread gun formations. We also saw WAYYYY less motion on Sunday. 

 

I'd spread it out every play. To be clear, that doesn't mean throwing the ball 50 times, but rather trying to open up some space

[billsfan_34]

7 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Even if he thinks the QB fumbling is under control, Allen had just been stripped (and recovered) earlier in the game.  So maybe put that playcall aside for another day.

 

 

I like Gore or DiMarco in that situation. Not only has Daboll been calling horrible games but his situational football has really been bad also.