ngbills Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) Overall W/L Record = 20 - 19 Overall Scoring Differential = -150 Record vs Losing Record Teams = 16 - 6 Scoring differential vs losing Record Teams = 93 Record vs Winning Record Teams = 4 - 13 (wins vs 8-7-1 2018 MIN; 9-7 2018 TEN; 10-6 2017 ATL; 10-6 2017 KC) Scoring differential vs Winning Record Teams = -243 WINS by 10+ = 5 WINS by 20+ = 3 LOSSES by 10+ = 13 LOSSES by 20+ = 7 Record when OPP scores 20 or more = 3 - 17 AVG Score vs Winning Record Teams = Bills 12 vs OPP 27 AVG Score vs Losing Record Teams = Bills 22 vs OPP 18 Combined Teams Winning % of Wins = .371 Combined Teams Winning % of Losses = .610 Last but not least... Challenges = 1 for 12 (Ouch Edited October 28, 2019 by ngbills 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 I think this is largely summed up by the statement that at the moment he is winning the games he should win. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 17 minutes ago, ngbills said: Overall W/L Record = 20 - 19 Overall Scoring Differential = -150 Record vs Losing Record Teams = 16 - 6 Scoring differential vs losing Record Teams = 93 Record vs Winning Record Teams = 4 - 13 (wins vs 8-7-1 2018 MIN; 9-7 2018 TEN; 10-6 2017 ATL; 10-6 2018 KC) Scoring differential vs Winning Record Teams = -243 WINS by 10+ = 5 WINS by 20+ = 3 LOSSES by 10+ = 13 LOSSES by 20+ = 7 Record when OPP scores 20 or more = 3 - 17 AVG Score vs Winning Record Teams = Bills 12 vs OPP 27 AVG Score vs Losing Record Teams = Bills 22 vs OPP 18 Combined Teams Winning % of Wins = .371 Combined Teams Winning % of Losses = .610 Last but not least... Challenges = 1 for 12 (Ouch Wow, this is gross. I really don't know what to say except I expect a couple more blowouts this year to Dallas, NE. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Not all that surprising, since the Bills offense hasn’t been very good during McDs tenure to date. The challenge stat is alarming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 43 minutes ago, ngbills said: LOSSES by 10+ = 13 LOSSES by 20+ = 7 He's coached 40 games in his career. 20 were blowout losses. The dude needs a mentor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 9 minutes ago, boater said: He's coached 40 games in his career. 20 were blowout losses. The dude needs a mentor. Again, when the offense can’t score the results get lopsided. McD is a defensive coach. His offensive hires are certainly fair game for criticism, though. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 (edited) We beat bad/mediocre teams because our defense is good enough to contain them. We lose against good teams because our offense isn’t good enough to keep up. Welcome to the McD era. Edited October 29, 2019 by Bangarang 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 It must have been really difficult to remain quiet through the 5-1 start. Congrats! This was predicted in the game day thread. If they had won it just would have been.....”well, of course, they were supposed to win!” I’ll wait and see how things play out, but I don’t hide after a bad game. I’m also not getting into a long, dragged out waste of time. I’m not thrilled with everything (by any means!), but I remain positive about the overall direction. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bangarang said: We beat bad/mediocre teams because our defense is good enough to contain them. We lose against good teams because our offense isn’t good enough to keep up. Welcome to the McD era. It's hard to coach in the NFL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 You show 20 losses by 10+ points but only 19 losses overall unless my math is off. Have we lost no close games? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Augie said: It must have been really difficult to remain quiet through the 5-1 start. Congrats! This was predicted in the game day thread. If they had won it just would have been.....”well, of course, they were supposed to win!” I’ll wait and see how things play out, but I don’t hide after a bad game. I’m also not getting into a long, dragged out waste of time. I’m not thrilled with everything (by any means!), but I remain positive about the overall direction. So do I. But I was bitterly disappointed yesterday and it makes me believe this team isn't quite where I (or probably McDermott) hoped it was. Just now, Cripple Creek said: You show 20 losses by 10+ points but only 19 losses overall unless my math is off. Have we lost no close games? Carolina the first year. Jets last year. Patriots this year. Otherwise McD wins the close ones. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 And out they come from under their rocks. Yeah, let’s fire him! ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Just now, GunnerBill said: So do I. But I was bitterly disappointed yesterday and it makes me believe this team isn't quite where I (or probably McDermott) hoped it was. I’m certainly also disappointed, but I always felt this would be the year we grow. NEXT year I hope we make the bigger step and can actually start seriously competing for the division on a regular basis. We’ll see.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: Carolina the first year. Jets last year. Patriots this year. Otherwise McD wins the close ones. Then the math really doesn't work, unless I'm missing something. Just now, Binghamton Beast said: And out they come from under their rocks. Yeah, let’s fire him! ? Wow, that's an uninteresting take away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Augie said: I’m certainly also disappointed, but I always felt this would be the year we grow. NEXT year I hope we make the bigger step and can actually start seriously competing for the division on a regular basis. We’ll see.... Next year we will not have this cake walk schedule though. That is why this year is such an opportunity. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted October 29, 2019 Author Share Posted October 29, 2019 15 hours ago, Augie said: It must have been really difficult to remain quiet through the 5-1 start. Congrats! This was predicted in the game day thread. If they had won it just would have been.....”well, of course, they were supposed to win!” I’ll wait and see how things play out, but I don’t hide after a bad game. I’m also not getting into a long, dragged out waste of time. I’m not thrilled with everything (by any means!), but I remain positive about the overall direction. I have not been quiet and do not hide out. So not sure how you come up with that. I am sure you read my post history... 15 hours ago, Cripple Creek said: You show 20 losses by 10+ points but only 19 losses overall unless my math is off. Have we lost no close games? No its 13 losses by more than 10 and of those 13 losses 7 of them is by more 20. For context during Rex two years only had 1 loss by more than a couple TD's and Marrone only 3. So McD is already double those guys combined. 15 hours ago, Binghamton Beast said: And out they come from under their rocks. Yeah, let’s fire him! ? Dont think so. Check my posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 16 hours ago, ngbills said: Overall W/L Record = 20 - 19 Overall Scoring Differential = -150 Record vs Losing Record Teams = 16 - 6 Scoring differential vs losing Record Teams = 93 Record vs Winning Record Teams = 4 - 13 (wins vs 8-7-1 2018 MIN; 9-7 2018 TEN; 10-6 2017 ATL; 10-6 2017 KC) Scoring differential vs Winning Record Teams = -243 WINS by 10+ = 5 WINS by 20+ = 3 LOSSES by 10+ = 13 LOSSES by 20+ = 7 Record when OPP scores 20 or more = 3 - 17 AVG Score vs Winning Record Teams = Bills 12 vs OPP 27 AVG Score vs Losing Record Teams = Bills 22 vs OPP 18 Combined Teams Winning % of Wins = .371 Combined Teams Winning % of Losses = .610 Last but not least... Challenges = 1 for 12 (Ouch This data supports very well what I said in numerous threads after the loss on Sunday to the Eagles. When we play bad teams, we find a way to squeak out a close win, for the most part. When we play good teams, we lose. For the most part, only good teams play in the playoffs. Expect this team to qualify for the post-season, thanks to our schedule, face a good team on the road, and lose their first game. That's our fate, and that's this team's ceiling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 All of this while inheriting a team he didn't help build in 2017 yet guided to a Wild Card spot. Then Beane tore it down for 2018 and we knew it was going to be a "growing pains" year. They're still building in 2019 and have had some success. This is the most consistent this team has been in a long time in terms of coaches/front office staff, and roster turnover. I'm gonna let these guys work through it because the whole "three years and you're outta here" thing has gotta stop at some point because clearly that has never really worked for them. They're more put together than any coaching/front office staff this team has had in the last 15+ years. They make calculated decisions while always keeping an eye on the big picture and working towards becoming a consistent contender. Not just a team that sneaks into the Wild Card spot once every five years, but a team that can consistently compete. Still have a lot of young players adapting to the NFL game but despite last week's absolutely Earth-shattering, world-destroying, godawful, no good, terrible, bad news loss to the Beagles, I still have faith and am excited for the remainder of the season. Although I will say that blowout loss stat is rough. But again, that 2018 offense couldn't get out of its own way and some of those issues seem to be creeping up this season as well. I think they'll find ways to get it fixed and if not, they'll make the changes they need to. But I wouldn't expect any sort of wholesale changes from the top down until the end of next season, if any, because of course games still need to be played. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted October 29, 2019 Author Share Posted October 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, blacklabel said: All of this while inheriting a team he didn't help build in 2017 yet guided to a Wild Card spot. Then Beane tore it down for 2018 and we knew it was going to be a "growing pains" year. They're still building in 2019 and have had some success. This is the most consistent this team has been in a long time in terms of coaches/front office staff, and roster turnover. I'm gonna let these guys work through it because the whole "three years and you're outta here" thing has gotta stop at some point because clearly that has never really worked for them. They're more put together than any coaching/front office staff this team has had in the last 15+ years. They make calculated decisions while always keeping an eye on the big picture and working towards becoming a consistent contender. Not just a team that sneaks into the Wild Card spot once every five years, but a team that can consistently compete. Still have a lot of young players adapting to the NFL game but despite last week's absolutely Earth-shattering, world-destroying, godawful, no good, terrible, bad news loss to the Beagles, I still have faith and am excited for the remainder of the season. Although I will say that blowout loss stat is rough. But again, that 2018 offense couldn't get out of its own way and some of those issues seem to be creeping up this season as well. I think they'll find ways to get it fixed and if not, they'll make the changes they need to. But I wouldn't expect any sort of wholesale changes from the top down until the end of next season, if any, because of course games still need to be played. I think it is too early to make a judgement on McD. However, I do find it interesting that people say he took a bad team that he inherited and guided them into the playoffs. He now gets to build his own team. So if he cant guide his own team that he built into the playoffs is that not a bad thing? How can we call it a success if McD gets the Bills make the playoffs. But at the same time, the last time the Bills made then playoff was with a team many say had zero talent and needed a complete rebuild? That makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 (edited) 16 hours ago, boater said: He's coached 40 games in his career. 20 were blowout losses. The dude needs a mentor. Huh? He’s 20-19. Is there a stat interpretation mentor I can connect you with? 17 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I think this is largely summed up by the statement that at the moment he is winning the games he should win. FACT Edited October 29, 2019 by Over 29 years of fanhood 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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