PetermansRedemption Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, Jauronimo said: I hate that billionaire owners and the most profitable professional sports league in the country (world?) extorts municipalities for new stadiums with the threat of relocation. I hate that self-interested and spineless politicians play ball with the NFL as a platform for re-election. Where are they pork barreling the money into instead? Your argument works great in a philosophical world, not the one we live in. Have you ever read a piece of legislation and seen the ridiculous funding held within? Oftentimes completely unrelated to a bill in order to get it to pass. I agree with your spineless politician view, but playing ball with the NFL is far from the main reason. I have no problem with tax dollars being spent on stadiums. That is, until politicians can be trusted to handle money reasonably and not waste it endlessly. My point is, currently, the money is just being burnt anyways, it doesn’t matter what they burn it on. Edited January 18, 2020 by PetermansRedemption Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, billsfanmiami(oh) said: maybe downtown Batavia...connect the dots Why Batavia? Never in a million years. Pegula would never allow it. Edited January 18, 2020 by Helpmenow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 23 hours ago, Jauronimo said: I hate that billionaire owners and the most profitable professional sports league in the country (world?) extorts municipalities for new stadiums with the threat of relocation. I hate that self-interested and spineless politicians play ball with the NFL as a platform for re-election. +1 If I was in charge, politicians who misused public money would be fed to the lions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 1 minute ago, KD in CA said: +1 If I was in charge, politicians who misused public money would be fed to the lions. Matt Patricia would eat all of those rotten bastards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Helpmenow said: Why Batavia? Never in a million years. Pegula would never allow it. It's a long running inside joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 24 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: It's a long running inside joke. Joke is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 45 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: It's a long running inside joke. 20 minutes ago, Helpmenow said: Joke is right. Poster of rumor was a joke and rumor is he is currently in prison. Rumors rarely are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Limeaid said: Poster of rumor was a joke and rumor is he is currently in prison. Rumors rarely are correct. Who's in prison? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 16 hours ago, bbb said: I wonder why Bon Jovi's new tour has a stop in Toronto but not in Buffalo? n Thankfully. That band flat out sucks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 I have no problem using public money for sports. At least then it is being used for something I enjoy, unlike generations of free-loaders on welfare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 3 hours ago, Boatdrinks said: Thankfully. That band flat out sucks. You might not like them, but they do not suck. They've managed to be relevant for decades. Sambora is a phenomenal guitarist and I can guarantee you that Jon Bon Jovi has a better voice than the majority of your favorite singers. You can hate the guy for "plotting to move the Bills to Canada," but don't let your ignorance opine that he and his band aren't legitimately talented and successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiami(oh) Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 4 hours ago, Gugny said: You might not like them, but they do not suck. They've managed to be relevant for decades. Sambora is a phenomenal guitarist and I can guarantee you that Jon Bon Jovi has a better voice than the majority of your favorite singers. You can hate the guy for "plotting to move the Bills to Canada," but don't let your ignorance opine that he and his band aren't legitimately talented and successful. Nah, he sucks ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 18 hours ago, Gugny said: You might not like them, but they do not suck. They've managed to be relevant for decades. Sambora is a phenomenal guitarist and I can guarantee you that Jon Bon Jovi has a better voice than the majority of your favorite singers. You can hate the guy for "plotting to move the Bills to Canada," but don't let your ignorance opine that he and his band aren't legitimately talented and successful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 On 1/18/2020 at 12:17 PM, KD in CA said: +1 If I was in charge, politicians who misused public money would be fed to the lions. Will that start in CA? Maybe the new LA stadium? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 On 1/17/2020 at 10:33 PM, billsfanmiami(oh) said: maybe downtown Batavia...connect the dots Well it is on I-90 AND the NYC (or whatever it's called now) tracks. Training camp is in Rochester. It's flat, plenty of parking spaces. No high downtown land acquisition cost. Cuomo may come up with a Batavia Billion. There may be some dots there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 I would Pegula would want to have things connected downtown ice arena, football and everything else there not in frickin Batavia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 If the stadium leaves Orchard Park, they should do it like Stargate Atlantis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 (edited) On 1/18/2020 at 3:28 PM, Binghamton Beast said: I have no problem using public money for sports. At least then it is being used for something I enjoy, unlike generations of free-loaders on welfare. Are we talking people on food stamps or billionaires who don't pay any tax? Edited January 20, 2020 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 14 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Are we talking people on food stamps or billionaires who don't pay any tax? We are talking about food stamps, free housing, free medical, yada yada. Like I said, at least I enjoy sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Binghamton Beast said: We are talking about food stamps, free housing, free medical, yada yada. Like I said, at least I enjoy sports. Okay. So you don't mind SOME people taking free rides at your expense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: Okay. So you don't mind SOME people taking free rides at your expense. Only the ones who don't LOOK like they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 On 1/18/2020 at 11:25 PM, billsfanmiami(oh) said: Nah, he sucks ? Agreed. Never liked that band or their awful, schlocky music; has nothing to do with his involvement in the Toronto group or the Bills. Hated them long before that. He and his band can’t hold a candle to my faves, as I like good music. 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: Okay. So you don't mind SOME people taking free rides at your expense. Most Americans probably fit in that category somewhere. I don’t think many would like an Ayn Rand type vision of a country, with pay as you go roads, etc. Many are ok with a childless taxpayer chipping in for their neighbors child to attend school and so on. In a pure sense everyone should pay only for what they use, but this would be wildly impractical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 8 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Okay. So you don't mind SOME people taking free rides at your expense. Oh, you mean people that get tax breaks but employ thousands of people? No, I don’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 back on topic... Hammer should contact Dunkirk Don and ask him where he should buy a plot of land to set up the future Hammers Lot #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Binghamton Beast said: Oh, you mean people that get tax breaks but employ thousands of people? No, I don’t. I mean the people who get tax breaks, fire thousands of people and stash their money offshore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 On 1/18/2020 at 2:24 AM, PetermansRedemption said: Where are they pork barreling the money into instead? Your argument works great in a philosophical world, not the one we live in. Have you ever read a piece of legislation and seen the ridiculous funding held within? Oftentimes completely unrelated to a bill in order to get it to pass. I agree with your spineless politician view, but playing ball with the NFL is far from the main reason. I have no problem with tax dollars being spent on stadiums. That is, until politicians can be trusted to handle money reasonably and not waste it endlessly. My point is, currently, the money is just being burnt anyways, it doesn’t matter what they burn it on. You're so fed up about reckless spending that you want all or nothing? Either 100% fiduciary responsibility or stadiums, bridges to no where, and handouts for all? Makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Jauronimo said: You're so fed up about reckless spending that you want all or nothing? Either 100% fiduciary responsibility or stadiums, bridges to no where, and handouts for all? Makes sense. Thank you for coming around. Glad to have you on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 3 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: I mean the people who get tax breaks, fire thousands of people and stash their money offshore. or when paying ZERO taxes they replace humans with robots. (no offence to robots ) No pay raises, no bonus' to pay, no health benefits, no sick leave ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammered a Lot Posted January 22, 2020 Author Share Posted January 22, 2020 On 1/20/2020 at 7:50 AM, SlimShady'sGhost said: back on topic... Hammer should contact Dunkirk Don and ask him where he should buy a plot of land to set up the future Hammers Lot #2. While it's a tempting idea I think I'm done buying properties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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