Time for Kaepernick to officially retire from NFL?

[H2o]

1 minute ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said:

But you keep making these comments that have no thruth whatsoever. I mean I could just make stuff up and say hey I already broke it down. He was given the option to opt out or get cut NOT he simply opted out of his contract. He did NOT settle for $60,000,000 - $80,000,000, his and Eric Reid's settlement is said to be less than $10,000,000. Where are you getting all this bad info?

I have no idea what thruth is whatsoever. The info was reported. See:

https://49ers.pressdemocrat.com/colin-kaepernick-eric-reid-and-nfl-settle-collusion-case/

 

Let them cut you then if that is the case. Or is that just what he said? He was also given the option of being traded to Denver because Elway WANTED him at the time. When he declined to renegotiate his contract Elway took that bridge as burned. Some of you are ridiculous in the lengths you go to try and paint other people as certain things. Martyrs, bigots,  or otherwise. Just let it go. 

[Alphadawg7]

Lets clear some things up:

 

He is NOT asking for $20M, a poster here made a joke and some of you took it seriously.  

 

He IS willing to come in as a backup and his agent is working on that.

 

He SHOULD be in the NFL...he stood up for people he felt needed it, and did it peacefully, and has given more money to charity than many posters here will make in a lifetime PRIOR to the kneeling.  

 

He was and is a MODEL citizen off the field for his community and various charities and movements.  

 

Nobody cares any more about the kneeling, he isn't going to continue to kneel, him being on a team will be a NON story within a week or two of him arriving to the team.  The only reason anyone cared back then as much as they did, was because Trump used it as a platform to try and get a boost and even told Jerry Jones this very thing and that it was the only thing at that time that gave him a boost.  Trump literally does not even know the words to the National Anthem.  

[Jobot]

2 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

I would suggest most team revenue streams come from sources beyond their own fanbase.  At least in a market like Buffalo.

 

Maybe that's wrong.  How much revenue has AB cost Oakland?  How much will he cost NE?  

 

The NFL is an invincible marketing machine that can't be broken right now, and the owners have more money than they can spend or lose in a lifetime.

 

But we can agree to disagree.  

 

I'm talking about revenue lost from decreased viewers and people turning away from the NFL.  The NFL was discussed as hurting and saw decreased ratings during the peak of the kneeling period.  Probably can't claim this was the exact cause, but it's definitely on their mind as a risk.

 

Just now, the skycap said:

A bigger distraction than AB??

 

My opinion is that Kaep would be a bigger distraction than AB.  But in discussing the matter further on this board, I think there's a monetary risk that owners aren't willing to take after they saw decreased viewership/ratings when he was previously the focal point of the league.

[keepthefaith]

10 minutes ago, klos63 said:

Now if you beat up customers you're ok.

 

Separate issue and it gets dealt with and sometimes those players get cut and not re-hired. 

Edited September 18, 2019 by keepthefaith

[dpberr]

He needs to go to the CFL or XFL to prove he's still got it. 

 

He's delusional to 1) think an NFL team is going to expend a useful player slot on a guy who hasn't played a single down of professional football anywhere in years and 2) get paid anything above vet minimum because of #1.  

 

 

 

 

[Say When...]

wait, how can you retire from something you're not apart of?

 

or is it:  should he retire from having his agent hound various NFL teams for an opportunity then blasting it out to the media?

 

i'd love to say: I'm going to retire as CEO of Amazon but it's meaningless because i'm not the CEO nor do i work for them.

 

anyway, this thread is like ***** with sandpaper, curiously enticing but destructive regardless of the outcome.

[Alphadawg7]

8 minutes ago, Jobot said:

 

I'm talking about revenue lost from decreased viewers and people turning away from the NFL.  The NFL was discussed as hurting and saw decreased ratings during the peak of the kneeling period.  Probably can't claim this was the exact cause, but it's definitely on their mind as a risk.

 

 

My opinion is that Kaep would be a bigger distraction than AB.  But in discussing the matter further on this board, I think there's a monetary risk that owners aren't willing to take after they saw decreased viewership/ratings when he was previously the focal point of the league.

 

Huh?  Panthers signed Eric Reid and it has not been a distraction and he Sued the NFL with Kap.  And Eric Reid is STILL kneeling.  Sorry, this just isnt accurate.  Again, nobody cares anymore...the only reason it got as big as it did is because Trump relentlessly trolled this issue for his own personal boost at the time.  Trump does not even know the words to the National Anthem, literally, and only dwelled on it because Trump said it was the only thing he got a boost from at that time.  

 

Trump isn't tweeting about it anymore and now no one cares that the guy who sued the NFL with Kap is signed, playing, and still kneeling for the Panthers.  

 

The outrage was stupid when it happened, it was manufactured and manipulated to mean something it wasn't for political reasons, and now its back to no one even cares.  If anyone here still was so outraged by it, then they should be ranting and raving about Reid not Kap.  

[IDBillzFan]

24 minutes ago, StHustle said:

 

Nobody would be appalled? That statement right there shows you are out of touch with reality. Did you see the reaction to his Nike commercial? How may people decided to burn their NIKE merchandise and call for a boycott? It was the BLACK DOLLAR that made that marketing campaign a success. 

 

You are the exact type that I refer to in my posts about Kaep. The ones who rather take blue pill over the red pill so you can live life comfortably in blissful ignorance.

 

Let me be more clear for you: no genuine football fan would be appalled.

 

The loudest dumbasses on both side of this issue...the snowflake SJWs and righteous righties...are not true fans of the game or they would at least STFU while the games are on.

 

But no. We suddenly need to start every game early to scan a camera to see what players are standing or kneeling. You think the fans want that crap?

 

No. Two kinds of people want that crap: people who need to whine about white America and people who hate people who always whine about white America.

 

Get out of your bubble, brother. Turn off the news and people with megaphones and you'll quickly see how very little most people care about Kaep.

 

Oh, and you may want to keep that whole BLACK DOLLAR crap to yourself.  You'll never be able to get past any of this until you stop basing everything on skin color.

 

Try judging  on character. Just a thought.

Edited September 18, 2019 by IDBillzFan

[iinii]

It may not be official but it seems he already has.

[prissythecat]

7 minutes ago, Say When... said:

wait, how can you retire from something you're not apart of?

 

or is it:  should he retire from having his agent hound various NFL teams for an opportunity then blasting it out to the media?

 

i'd love to say: I'm going to retire as CEO of Amazon but it's meaningless because i'm not the CEO nor do i work for them.

 

anyway, this thread is like ***** with sandpaper, curiously enticing but destructive regardless of the outcome.

 

Of course Kap is still part of the NFL .  He can even get a pension as he has met the minimum service requirement...  The only thing he needs to do to get his pension is retire :p

[Teddy KGB]

44 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

It has nothing to do with "causing a distraction" which is what the teams would like you to believe.

How about AB in Oakland and now NE?  Is he causing a distraction?

 

It's about the members of one of the most elite clubs in the world colluding to send a message.  Not to Kaepernick, but to any other future player who thinks he is bigger than the game.

 

Message is heard loud and clear: "Tow the line or it will cost you your playing career."

 

They are all willing to adopt this strategy because Kaepernick is not elite enough for any of them to break the agreement and sign him.

 

They would all be doing it with AB too, if he wasn't as elite as he is! 

 

 

 

AB doesn’t have a super woke GF to report to like Kaep.       Life’s not fair.     I’m only on tv employed as a DJ ! 

[apuszczalowski]

1 hour ago, Gavin in Va Beach said:

 

I don't believe the NFL is 'blackballing' him. That would be all the owners got together and with the approval of the NFL offices voted/agreed no one would hire him, opening them up to a massive civil suit. The fact that Kaepernick and I forget the other player, took a small settlement to withdraw their collusion (or blackball) claim means they knew there was no real evidence to back it up. The settlement was chump change to the NFL, who likely only paid it get rid of the bad PR.

 

I  believe there are a few, if not more, team owners who would sign him, but ultimately don't want to deal with a possible backlash from their fan base and the headache that would result. That's not blackballing, but a reasonable business decision.

 

Honestly though, Miami should sign him. They are already a dumpster fire with low fan support and the headache from bad press couldn't get much worse. Plus they have a bonafides to justify this with their minority ownership group that includes Gloria Estefan and Serena Williams. They could spin this as a 2nd chance for Kaep, give some attention to the social justice angle in positive way, and create some buzz to distract from how bad the team is.

Won't happen, isn't the majority owner of the Dolphins one of Trumps big supporters? Last thing the majority of the wealthy old white guy club that is the NFL owners group wants is to piss off their best buddy and risk losing tax breaks........

 

Can risk angering the trailer trash seeing a mixed race man take a knee during a song that they are proudly standing for while waiting in the beer line or taking a leak at the urinal.......

[Mr. WEO]

(sniff sniff)...these Kaep threads never smell....fresh anymore.

 

Anyway, the reason Kaep was sitting during the anthem the first time is because he was moping over being the backup QB to Blane Gabbert.  In fact, his agents had requested a trade as soon as Chip Kelly became coach and indicated there would be a QB competition.  By preseason, he was seen sitting during the anthem.

 

He had sat unnoticed before that 3rd preseason game, when a picture of him sitting went viral.  Suddenly, he told us he was protesting by sitting.  Prior to that, the was no indication that he had any protest in mind.  In fact, several  infamous killings of black men by cops (and others) had already occurred without a word of protest by Kaepernick (he was a starting QB at that time): Travon Martin 2012, Eric Garner 2014, Micahel Brown 2014, Tamir Rice 2014, Freddie Brown 2015.  It would be another year before a very unhappy  Kaep told the world he was now a high profile protester and that time he was caught sitting WAS his protest.

 

I'm sure he is earnest in his words and thoughts since regarding the focus of the protests, but i'm not convinced he was protesting at all when they took his picture sitting there---simply because he never did any of that when kids were being killed---while he was the starting QB of the 49ers.  I credit him for quick thinking and turning this around to his advantage (sort of). 

[ddaryl]

2 hours ago, klos63 said:

 

Led his team to the playoffs twice, one time to the Super Bowl and almost won.

 

 

I stand by my words.. We've seen plenty of "lesser" QB's win SB's. Kap was definitely not good enough for him to overcome media circus he brings and propel him back into a NFL lineup 

[klos63]

20 minutes ago, dpberr said:

He needs to go to the CFL or XFL to prove he's still got it. 

 

He's delusional to 1) think an NFL team is going to expend a useful player slot on a guy who hasn't played a single down of professional football anywhere in years and 2) get paid anything above vet minimum because of #1.  

 

 

 

 

Yet Josh Johnson hadn't played a single down in 7 years and an NFL team used a player slot for him last season.

[Boca BIlls]

2 hours ago, prissythecat said:

Kap's agent apparently working the phones to contact teams in dire QB straits.  But no takers so far...   Ouch

 

 

No interest in Kap

He has been retired for a long time.

[klos63]

1 minute ago, ddaryl said:

 

 

I stand by my words.. We've seen plenty of "lesser" QB's win SB's. Kap was definitely not good enough for him to overcome media circus he brings and propel him back into a NFL lineup 

Maybe not, but it's ridiculous to discount his success, just because you don't like him. Kelly sucked in the Super Bowls, abused women, did drugs and people in buffalo will kiss his butt any chance they have.

[Boca BIlls]

2 hours ago, klos63 said:

Led his team to the playoffs twice, one time to the Super Bowl and almost won

Kap sucks get over it. His distraction as a human is not enough to make anyone want to sign a BAD QB. Plenty of other bad QBs to sign.

[CLTbills]

2 hours ago, OutOfBubbleGum said:

He can only blame himself. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't he opt out of his contract in SF back in 2016? There ya go.

And was then offered a contract by Denver that he turned down, and now continues to play his "poor me" sob story.

[fansince88]

2 hours ago, klos63 said:

His agent says he would sign on as a backup, which would assume he would sign for backup pay as well. I agree that he probably won't get any offers,  but no need to make up crap about him. If only he abused his GF... he'd have been reinstated a couple years ago.

If you're going to make a point, at least attempt to be accurate, you asked me for proof.

Actually he asked you for info not for an attitude. He simply stated he has never seen that and asked you if you could support your statement with a link. A link is normally not too much to ask.