Bad Things Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 It's amazing to see how people go out of their way to find something to cry about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Bad Things said: It's amazing to see how people go out of their way to find something to cry about. 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: Nobody is crying. Jamie's Cryin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 5 hours ago, ScottLaw said: Yea... hoping they just stick with Nscheke at RT and stop being so stubborn about getting Ford the reps. Ford makes for a better Guard. What happens of Ngsecki gets hurt? I have no problem with this rotation while Ford figures it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted September 16, 2019 Author Share Posted September 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: What happens of Ngsecki gets hurt? I have no problem with this rotation while Ford figures it out EJ's slow eyes = Ford's slow feet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Things Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 17 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Nobody is crying. Really? It sure sounds like it, from where I'm sitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, Bad Things said: Really? It sure sounds like it, from where I'm sitting. Its not really crying so much as irritating cat whining....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 I actually had a sick fantasy that we landed Oliver then traded up for Dexter Lawrence and been set up the middle on D for a decade. The Giants took Lawrence a bit earlier than I expected. Still liked the Ford pick a lot and believe he'll end up rock solid be it at RT or one of the G spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 7 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: No Bill was as bad as Star Lotulelei though. He looks like a f*cking tourist out there..........he's so unathletic that he was basically a traffic cone LAST YEAR....... but now it's markedly WORSE and he's also getting turned sideways and pushed backwards........Barkley ran right past him several times and he just didn't even have the twitch to get an arm on him.........he didn't even sniff a tackle.........Harrison Phillips isn't great but he's indispensable right now. I wonder if the Bills realize this & that's why they picked up DT Vincent Taylor who was cut by Miami. He's on the practice squad now, maybe the plan is to bring him up once he learns our scheme & give Star a golden parachute by putting him on IR or maybe they will cut him out right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, 1st&ten said: I wonder if the Bills realize this & that's why they picked up DT Vincent Taylor who was cut by Miami. He's on the practice squad now, maybe the plan is to bring him up once he learns our scheme & give Star a golden parachute by putting him on IR or maybe they will cut him out right. The thought that it could come to something like that has crossed my mind. I am guessing Vincent is getting a little sweeter practice squad salary than normal and I will be surprised if someone tries to poach him and the Bills don't make a move to get him on the 53 to avoid that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Just watching Horrible Harry get all those reps definately might mean something is up with Star 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 6 hours ago, Bad Things said: Really? It sure sounds like it, from where I'm sitting. Easy, Judge Judy... this isn't your courtroom, it's a Bills board where we get to discuss whatever the hell we want to about the Bills. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Things Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: Easy, Judge Judy... this isn't your courtroom, it's a Bills board where we get to discuss whatever the hell we want to about the Bills. Judge Judy? What are you, a middle aged housewife? When did I tell someone they couldn't say what they were saying? I was just calling them a bunch of whining babies. (Not that you would know what one of those are, eh?) Edited September 17, 2019 by Bad Things snark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) The Bills (and us) did not expect Feliciano to come in and solidify the RG position, so this hurts Ford's development a little as his only spot is RT. Ford needs time to develop as an NFL RT. We need to understand this. Edited September 17, 2019 by njbuff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 21 hours ago, thebandit27 said: I hope not; doesn't look like a good tackle draft to me. Much better year for WR and EDGE guys IMO...maybe I'll change my mind on that though... I totally agree but imo it is never a bad idea to bolster the OL, especially when you have a young, talented qb to protect. That said, I want a wide receiver or even 2 in 2020. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 So, is he a bust and we should move on? Or we give him this year and all offseason to grow into being a pro....see if he improves and is heading upward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse Nuts Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) 20 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: No Bill was as bad as Star Lotulelei though. He looks like a f*cking tourist out there..........he's so unathletic that he was basically a traffic cone LAST YEAR....... but now it's markedly WORSE and he's also getting turned sideways and pushed backwards........Barkley ran right past him several times and he just didn't even have the twitch to get an arm on him.........he didn't even sniff a tackle.........Harrison Phillips isn't great but he's indispensable right now. For the life of me I cannot figure out why some people can't understand what Star's role is on the d-line. Why does he have to look like a superstar? He's not going to have any stats worth mentioning because that's not what he does. Yet you all keep beating that to death as if (nearly any) stats mean something with him. He has a role and he plays it pretty well IMO. You really think Beane and McD would overpay that much for a guy who can't do his job? I think we've seen by now that they will not do that. And don't give me the Carolina connection crap. They're not going to waste valuable cap room over nostalgia with anyone. Star is going to get pushed around a bunch. He's supposed to take on those big dogs so the other DT can get penetration. I clearly recall several years of big 99 getting pushed around quite a bit. In fact, I can still clearly recall a ton of plays in which the opposing RB broke a big run up the gut and big softy 99 being driven totally sideways like he was 100 pounds, not 350 or whatever he is. Seriously, he was much more responsible for a many of those huge runs up the middle than most fans realize. I started noticing it about 5 years ago or so. So when I'd see replays of those d-killer runs, I'd pay attention to big fluffer 99 (he's hard to miss). I guess it's just a real mystery why we don't really see those game killer runs right up the middle anymore these days. Hmmm....big butt 99 is gone and, hmmm....Star is in there now.....and, well, we don't really see a lot of those anymore do we? Hmmm? Maybe there's a connection there? But so many were so in love with Marcel they just won't admit or won't see that he's the problem a lot of the times. I'll admit Star isn't Ted Washington or the Williams boys we had awhile ago (I miss those days just for the great DT's). But he's pretty decent at what he does. The D would never, ever be as dominant as they are if he weren't. Try watching a whole game of his or a few. Everyone has a bad day at the office. Give the guy a break for a few bad plays. He's up against some big and talented o-linemen every week. He ain't the best but he also ain't the worst. F the stats. They're meaningless most of the time anyway and especially at the nosetackle position. Edited September 17, 2019 by Distorted One 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Distorted One said: For the life of me I cannot figure out why some people can't understand what Star's role is on the d-line. Why does he have to look like a superstar? He's not going to have any stats worth mentioning because that's not what he does. Yet you all keep beating that to death as if (nearly any) stats mean something with him. He has a role and he plays it pretty well IMO. You really think Beane and McD would overpay that much for a guy who can't do his job? I think we've seen by now that they will not do that. And don't give me the Carolina connection crap. They're not going to waste valuable cap room over nostalgia with anyone. Star is going to get pushed around a bunch. He's supposed to take on those big dogs so the other DT can get penetration. I clearly recall several years of big 99 getting pushed around quite a bit. In fact, I can still see in my mind a ton of plays in which the opposing RB broke a big run up the gut and big softy 99 being driven totally sideways like he was 100 pounds, not 350 or whatever he is. Seriously, he was much more responsible for a many of those huge runs up the middle than most fans realize. I started noticing it about 5 years ago or so. So when I'd see replays of those d-killer runs, I'd pay attention to big fluffer 99 (he's hard to miss). But so many were so in love with Marcel they just won't admit or won't see that he's the problem a lot of the times. I'll admit Star isn't Ted Washington or the Williams boys we had awhile ago (I miss those days just for the great DT's). But he's pretty decent at what he does. The D would never, ever be as dominant as they are if he weren't. Try watching a whole game of his or a few. Everyone has a bad day at the office. Give the guy a break for a few bad plays. He's up against some big and talented o-linemen every week. He ain't the best but he also ain't the worst. F the stats. They're meaningless most of the time anyway and especially at the nosetackle position. He didn't mention stats..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse Nuts Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: He didn't mention stats..... Thanks for pointing that out but I wasn't referring to his post in particular for that. When Star got here that's all anyone would talk about. Even the press talking heads. Meaningless for nosetackles unless you have an absolute stud that's a tackling and sacking machine. We don't see those that much. You certainly couldn't measure big Ted Washington's contributions in stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 This line is a year or two away from being a beast. Depends on Dawkins more than Cody. If Dawkins is a strong LT then leave him, otherwise switch him to RT and draft to find a LT. Nseehke is your gameday backup swing tackle. Cody then has to beat out Feliciano to get the RG spot. Feliciano becomes a valuable gameday C/G back up. Spain and Morse are set for now. If Dawkins is solid at LT then you draft looking for a RT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said: I totally agree but imo it is never a bad idea to bolster the OL, especially when you have a young, talented qb to protect. That said, I want a wide receiver or even 2 in 2020. I want your boy Ruggs on this roster right now! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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