Albany,n.y. Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) I went to Rivers Casino in Schenectady today. I bet a total of 14 units spread out over 4 scenarios: Bet 4 units on Over 6.5 wins. This is the lowest odds of bet 2 units to win another unit (Odds 1/2). Pays 6 units Bet 4 units on Over 7.5 wins. Even money bet 1 unit to win another unit (Odds 1/1). Pays 8 units Bet 4 units on Over 8.5 wins. Bet 1 unit to win another 2 units (Odds 2/1). Pays 12 units Bet 2 units on Bills making the playoffs. Bet 1 unit to win another 3.25 units. Pays 8.5 units. EDIT: The original said 3.5 when it should be 3.25 Basically, the break even point is 8 wins & no playoffs. 9 wins produces a 12 unit profit & 9 or more wins & the playoffs produces a 20.5 unit profit. Edited September 3, 2019 by Albany,n.y. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: I went to Rivers Casino in Schenectady today. I bet a total of 14 units spread out over 4 scenarios: Bet 4 units on Over 6.5 wins. This is the lowest odds of bet 2 units to win another unit (Odds 1/2). Pays 6 units Bet 4 units on Over 7.5 wins. Even money bet 1 unit to win another unit (Odds 1/1). Pays 8 units Bet 4 units on Over 8.5 wins. Bet 1 unit to win another 2 units (Odds 2/1). Pays 12 units Bet 2 units on Bills making the playoffs. Bet 1 unit to win another 3.5 units. Pays 8.5 units. Basically, the break even point is 8 wins & no playoffs. 9 wins produces a 12 unit profit & 9 or more wins & the playoffs produces a 20.5 unit profit. How does that translate to cash? I am not a gambler and have no idea what a unit represents in this context. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted September 3, 2019 Author Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Gugny said: How does that translate to cash? I am not a gambler and have no idea what a unit represents in this context. Think of them as dollars. Say I bet $10 per unit, bet 1 would be $40 to get back $60, Bet 2 would be $40 to get back $80, Bet 3 would be $40 to get back $120, Bet 4 would be $20 to get back $85. Total bet $140, total returns: at 6 or fewer wins, pays 0 lose $140, at 7 wins pays $60 lose $80; at 8 wins break even pays $140; at 9 wins pays $260, profit of $120; win 9 or more and make playoffs pays $345, profit of $205. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Albany,n.y. said: Think of them as dollars. Say I bet $10 per unit, bet 1 would be $40 to get back $60, Bet 2 would be $40 to get back $80, Bet 3 would be $40 to get back $120, Bet 4 would be $20 to get back $85. Total bet $140, total returns: at 6 or fewer wins, pays 0 lose $140, at 7 wins pays $60 lose $80; at 8 wins break even pays $140; at 9 wins pays $260, profit of $120; win 9 or more and make playoffs pays $345, profit of $205. Thanks, H! Good luck!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) You can buy Tom Brady's old house Forbes Edited September 3, 2019 by HOUSE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Or... (takes hit off joint and passes it), we could... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Albany,n.y. said: I went to Rivers Casino in Schenectady today. I bet a total of 14 units spread out over 4 scenarios: Bet 4 units on Over 6.5 wins. This is the lowest odds of bet 2 units to win another unit (Odds 1/2). Pays 6 units Bet 4 units on Over 7.5 wins. Even money bet 1 unit to win another unit (Odds 1/1). Pays 8 units Bet 4 units on Over 8.5 wins. Bet 1 unit to win another 2 units (Odds 2/1). Pays 12 units Bet 2 units on Bills making the playoffs. Bet 1 unit to win another 3.5 units. Pays 8.5 units. Basically, the break even point is 8 wins & no playoffs. 9 wins produces a 12 unit profit & 9 or more wins & the playoffs produces a 20.5 unit profit. Seriously only 3.5 to 1 of the Bills making the playoffs? Would have expected significantly higher than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted September 3, 2019 Author Share Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, CodeMonkey said: Seriously only 3.5 to 1 of the Bills making the playoffs? Would have expected significantly higher than that. They're only 7.5-1 to win the division per what I found on the internet, a little less than half that to at least get a wild card is reasonable. I wrote 3.5 when it's really 3.25-1. I expect a 10 win season & playoffs, my break even point is 2 wins fewer than my expectations: NFL - AFC DIVISIONS - TO WIN - SEP 10 AFC EAST DIVISION - TO WIN Wager cut off: 2019 10th September 3:00 PM ROT TEAM ODDS 10201 NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS -475 10202 NEW YORK JETS +525 10203 BUFFALO BILLS +750 10204 MIAMI DOLPHINS +5000 Edited September 3, 2019 by Albany,n.y. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsQuebec Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Wow, I got much better odds: Bills to win over 6.5 games at -133 odds, Risking $6987 to win $5,269 (bets placed at different New Jersey bookies) Bills to win the AFC East division at +1200 odds, Risking $1,000 to win $12,000 (William Hill online) Bills to win the AFC Championship at +6600 odds, Risking $500 to win $33,000 (William Hill online) Bills to make the playoffs at +400 odds, Risking $98 to win $392 (Bet365 online) Good luck to all of you who have faith in this 2019 Buffalo team!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, BillsQuebec said: Wow, I got much better odds: Bills to win over 6.5 games at -133 odds, Risking $6987 to win $5,269 (bets placed at different New Jersey bookies) Bills to win the AFC East division at +1200 odds, Risking $1,000 to win $12,000 (William Hill online) Bills to win the AFC Championship at +6600 odds, Risking $500 to win $33,000 (William Hill online) Bills to make the playoffs at +400 odds, Risking $98 to win $392 (Bet365 online) Good luck to all of you who have faith in this 2019 Buffalo team!! Don’t love value of that O/U 6.5@-133 but I did 2k on AFCE champs and locked in @11/1...good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsQuebec Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Don’t love value of that O/U 6.5@-133 but I did 2k on AFCE champs and locked in @11/1...good luck! Are you kidding? That's probably the bet where I got the best odds a few months ago. They have moved quite a bit since then. For example, Pinnacle has the over at -195 and the under at +162. Bet365 has over -165 under +135. I could go on and on with other examples. I don't think I've seen a single bookie that still has odds as good as -133!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 20 minutes ago, BillsQuebec said: Are you kidding? That's probably the bet where I got the best odds a few months ago. They have moved quite a bit since then. For example, Pinnacle has the over at -195 and the under at +162. Bet365 has over -165 under +135. I could go on and on with other examples. I don't think I've seen a single bookie that still has odds as good as -133!! I mean I'm comfortable they're a 7win minimum team but at less than even money I'm not giving up half game over last season win total, that's just me personally tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 To complicated....bet the games etc and the AFC and Superbowl championship if you want to gamble. I put cash on the Bills against the Jets and took the 3 points in Vegas in June. Sports books have opened in NYS in the mean time. I was at Del Lago just east of Rochester for lunch on August 23, and they had just opened their sports book that day (first in NYS I was told) I checked the line on the opener, and it was .....3 points. So, sports betting is here folks, I don't know if any of the Buffalo area casino's are putting one in however. From my house in Niagara County its 105 miles to Del Lago.....to far to go.....imho. (I also took the Bills to win the AFC at 36:1, a true fan/fools's bet) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Toll Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said: I went to Rivers Casino in Schenectady today. I bet a total of 14 units spread out over 4 scenarios: Bet 4 units on Over 6.5 wins. This is the lowest odds of bet 2 units to win another unit (Odds 1/2). Pays 6 units Bet 4 units on Over 7.5 wins. Even money bet 1 unit to win another unit (Odds 1/1). Pays 8 units Bet 4 units on Over 8.5 wins. Bet 1 unit to win another 2 units (Odds 2/1). Pays 12 units Bet 2 units on Bills making the playoffs. Bet 1 unit to win another 3.25 units. Pays 8.5 units. EDIT: The original said 3.5 when it should be 3.25 Basically, the break even point is 8 wins & no playoffs. 9 wins produces a 12 unit profit & 9 or more wins & the playoffs produces a 20.5 unit profit. Question for you: I’ve been thinking of placing a Bills Super Bowl bet this year. Are you able to make that bet at Rivers? If so, do you know what odds they put on it at Rivers? I tried researching the bets New York State allows you to make and I didn’t see the basic Super Bowl bet listed. Edited September 3, 2019 by Troll Toll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 I just bet 5k on the Jets to beat us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted September 3, 2019 Author Share Posted September 3, 2019 23 minutes ago, Troll Toll said: Question for you: I’ve been thinking of placing a Bills Super Bowl bet this year. Are you able to make that bet at Rivers? If so, do you know what odds they put on it at Rivers? I tried researching the bets New York State allows you to make and I didn’t see the basic Super Bowl bet listed. I'm pretty sure they have Super Bowl bets since I was able to get a future on the Bills making the playoffs, but I never looked for the Super Bowl. If you're there it's easier using the kiosks, they have someone there to help you. Their phone # is on my tickets, if you have any questions you can call them at 518-579-8800, but don't be shocked if they don't know the answer. I went to the window 1st, the teller didn't know about futures, then her supervisor told me to check the kiosk, the kiosk guide knew where to get to the futures & I bet it there. Also since the odds for the Bills are around 80/1 to 100/1 from what I've seen online, if you're betting enough to bring the potential winnings to over $10,000 I'd advise breaking them into smaller tickets since on the back of my tickets it says you need ID if the payment is over $10,000. 32 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: I just bet 5k on the Jets to beat us In the words of Stillwell from the movie A League of Their Own "You're gonna lose" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perk71 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 I bet $50 to win Superbowl. Payout $4,050.00. Go Bills! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 I made 3 Bills bets last week. I bet over 7 wins for $500 (-135). Bills to win the AFC East for $30 (+800) and Bills to win the AFC for $10 (+3500). I also have Texans to win AFC South (+220), Cowboys to win NFC (+750), 49ers under 8.5 wins (-135), Colts under 7.5 wins (-120), Broncos under 7 wins (-110), Brees to win yardage title (+750), Evans to win receiving title (+1400) and Carson to win the rushing title (+2800). I feel pretty good about the Bills, Texans and 49ers bets. I bet twice as much on the Colts as the 49ers and am kind of kicking myself for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, RobbRiddick said: I just bet 5k on the Jets to beat us So if the Bills win you got to run what, about 3+ miles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 4 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said: I went to Rivers Casino in Schenectady today. I bet a total of 14 units spread out over 4 scenarios: Bet 4 units on Over 6.5 wins. This is the lowest odds of bet 2 units to win another unit (Odds 1/2). Pays 6 units Bet 4 units on Over 7.5 wins. Even money bet 1 unit to win another unit (Odds 1/1). Pays 8 units Bet 4 units on Over 8.5 wins. Bet 1 unit to win another 2 units (Odds 2/1). Pays 12 units Bet 2 units on Bills making the playoffs. Bet 1 unit to win another 3.25 units. Pays 8.5 units. EDIT: The original said 3.5 when it should be 3.25 Basically, the break even point is 8 wins & no playoffs. 9 wins produces a 12 unit profit & 9 or more wins & the playoffs produces a 20.5 unit profit. Sounds good...think I might head there Thursday to place my bets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, RobbRiddick said: I just bet 5k on the Jets to beat us get ready for Spags to break your legs if you can't make the vig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, RobbRiddick said: I just bet 5k on the Jets to beat us Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 5 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said: I went to Rivers Casino in Schenectady today. I bet a total of 14 units spread out over 4 scenarios: Bet 4 units on Over 6.5 wins. This is the lowest odds of bet 2 units to win another unit (Odds 1/2). Pays 6 units Bet 4 units on Over 7.5 wins. Even money bet 1 unit to win another unit (Odds 1/1). Pays 8 units Bet 4 units on Over 8.5 wins. Bet 1 unit to win another 2 units (Odds 2/1). Pays 12 units Bet 2 units on Bills making the playoffs. Bet 1 unit to win another 3.25 units. Pays 8.5 units. EDIT: The original said 3.5 when it should be 3.25 Basically, the break even point is 8 wins & no playoffs. 9 wins produces a 12 unit profit & 9 or more wins & the playoffs produces a 20.5 unit profit. The payout for wins was underwhelming. So I put 1 unit each on making the playoffs (Pays 4 units,) winning the AFC East (pays 13 units,) and the Super Bowl (80 units.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Yeah, I haven't been happy with the odds for over on the season so I went with the opener instead (parlayed with the Browns winning their opener as well, which would probably be my pick if I were in a survival league.) 1 unit wins 2.54. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Toll Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Albany,n.y. said: I'm pretty sure they have Super Bowl bets since I was able to get a future on the Bills making the playoffs, but I never looked for the Super Bowl. If you're there it's easier using the kiosks, they have someone there to help you. Their phone # is on my tickets, if you have any questions you can call them at 518-579-8800, but don't be shocked if they don't know the answer. I went to the window 1st, the teller didn't know about futures, then her supervisor told me to check the kiosk, the kiosk guide knew where to get to the futures & I bet it there. Also since the odds for the Bills are around 80/1 to 100/1 from what I've seen online, if you're betting enough to bring the potential winnings to over $10,000 I'd advise breaking them into smaller tickets since on the back of my tickets it says you need ID if the payment is over $10,000. In the words of Stillwell from the movie A League of Their Own "You're gonna lose" Thank you so much! I’ll swing by there and try the kiosk. That last part you’re probably right, haha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 5 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said: I went to Rivers Casino in Schenectady today. I bet a total of 14 units spread out over 4 scenarios: Bet 4 units on Over 6.5 wins. This is the lowest odds of bet 2 units to win another unit (Odds 1/2). Pays 6 units Bet 4 units on Over 7.5 wins. Even money bet 1 unit to win another unit (Odds 1/1). Pays 8 units Bet 4 units on Over 8.5 wins. Bet 1 unit to win another 2 units (Odds 2/1). Pays 12 units Bet 2 units on Bills making the playoffs. Bet 1 unit to win another 3.25 units. Pays 8.5 units. EDIT: The original said 3.5 when it should be 3.25 Basically, the break even point is 8 wins & no playoffs. 9 wins produces a 12 unit profit & 9 or more wins & the playoffs produces a 20.5 unit profit. I'm shocked they have those kind of O/U prop style bets in Schenectady of all places. Don't even have that here in Vegas. It's one O/U and that's all you're gonna get. Nice. Hope you didn't jinx us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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