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8 minutes ago, Just Jack said:

Don’t take Greyhound or Amtrak, you’ll spend too much time traveling. You’d probably have to turn right around and head back when you arrive. Car, same thing, you might get a few hours. Plane is the way to go, you can get The first Jet Blue flight from NYC and the last Jet Blue from Buffalo. Even with checking in for your return, you’ll get about 10-12 hours in Buffalo. Download Uber or Lyft to get around once you arrive so you don’t have to deal with rentals. 

 

 

 

This is a great point. It’s changed my world. I use it a TON, both for convenience and allowing a few pops along the way. Cheaper than a rental, often cheaper than just parking! In a city like Buffalo you won’t have any rides too expensive. Even getting to the Falls can’t be TOO bad. 

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14 minutes ago, Just Jack said:

Don’t take Greyhound or Amtrak, you’ll spend too much time traveling. You’d probably have to turn right around and head back when you arrive. Car, same thing, you might get a few hours. Plane is the way to go, you can get The first Jet Blue flight from NYC and the last Jet Blue from Buffalo. Even with checking in for your return, you’ll get about 10-12 hours in Buffalo. Download Uber or Lyft to get around once you arrive so you don’t have to deal with rentals. 

 

 

Good suggestion. I was just going to suggest JetBlue too. I fly to NYC often and always use JB. 

 

They have flights for as cheap as $55-60 each way (depending on the day of the week and time of year, etc). 

 

Its only a quick 45 minute flight if you’re strapped for time. 

 

Amtrak is great if you have more time. 

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18 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

While I generally agree with that, that is something I’ve long wanted to do, just for the heck of it. I have no idea if this is the scenic type of trip I imagine, so maybe somewhere more interesting would be better.

 

There is a point where you have to balance flying vs driving. A bunch of variables there to consider. Came to Atlanta from Florida for an event years ago with the family. Airfare and car rental was around $1,500, and I figured I saved less than 2 hours when it was all said and done. Depending on the situation, I now decide on the case by case details. 

 

Didn’t @plenzmd1 come up with some extremely detailed visitors guide info? Was that more game day stuff? It might actually be too much information, but it might also be very helpful. 

 

Here's a link to the @plenzmd1 google doc. 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1F9yhWkCZkeTFX_6yagiiwCPu-JUnhBAxuPILxW8U438/edit

 

My two cents is you should visit Niagara Falls. A lot of people say that the Canadian side is better. That may or may not be true, but it requires crossing the border and there's plenty to do and see on the American side.

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2 hours ago, ukbuffalo said:

Hi ,

 

I am a UK born buffalo fan. I am travelling over to New York City for a week ( my first trip to USA ) at the beginning of September and have managed to get tickets for the season opener against New York Jets 

 

I have just managed to convince my friend I am going with to fly to buffalo for a day trip on the Friday before the game. I am deffo gonna organise a stadium tour but is there anything else people would recommend doing while we are there ??

 

Cheers 

Tee Hee

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I went on a kayak voyage on the Buffalo River yesterday between all the grain elevators. It was amazing, and only $28 for 2 hours. I highly recommend it.

I heard that @ExiledInIllinois will be leading a narrated, 8-hour guided tour soon, explaining all the boats, all the sights, and how water was originally invented..............

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The Amtrak ride from NYC to Albany is nice through the Hudson Valley.  

 

Albany to Buffalo is flat and boring.  I'd take the plane.

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56 minutes ago, Seasons1992 said:

I went on a kayak voyage on the Buffalo River yesterday between all the grain elevators. It was amazing, and only $28 for 2 hours. I highly recommend it.

I heard that @ExiledInIllinois will be leading a narrated, 8-hour guided tour soon, explaining all the boats, all the sights, and how water was originally invented..............

Thanks for the shout out!

 

Not sure if they are still there... Especially in the age of GPS sounding... But if you ever see a survey station mark painted on the Black Rock Channel (where they crew/row on the Niagara Section Wall), the outter & inner breakwaters or the Ship Canal (where you were)... I painted those station marks and built that baseline to sound (take depth readings) the Buffalo Harbor area!

 

The stations are usually marked something like: 1+00, 2+00, etc.. etc... That's how we would sound in the pre-GPS days.  Build baseline, then go off each station w/boat to take sounding.  That data would determine how much the area needed to be dredged and to figure out how much it would cost to remove said spoil (the material removed from bottom).

 

Sadly, my artwork is slowly being erased by time & technology,  nobody is updating those station marks anymore because everything is controlled view the heavens/sky!

 

LoL... You knew I wouldn't disappoint!  😉

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2 hours ago, Augie said:

 

While I generally agree with that, that is something I’ve long wanted to do, just for the heck of it. I have no idea if this is the scenic type of trip I imagine, so maybe somewhere more interesting would be better.

 

There is a point where you have to balance flying vs driving. A bunch of variables there to consider. Came to Atlanta from Florida for an event years ago with the family. Airfare and car rental was around $1,500, and I figured I saved less than 2 hours when it was all said and done. Depending on the situation, I now decide on the case by case details. 

 

Didn’t @plenzmd1 come up with some extremely detailed visitors guide info? Was that more game day stuff? It might actually be too much information, but it might also be very helpful. 

 

I can vouch the line from Albany to Buffalo has one scenic moment along the Mohawk River. The rest of the ride is bupkis. Except the 45 seconds blowing down Main St in Fonda, NY at full speed. That was kind of exciting worrying if we'd hit anyone.

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3 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

I took the train from Boston to Buffalo once....once! There little to see, there is zero cell service because all the cell towers are on highways, not rail lines. And it took 2 hours to change trains in Albany. I would rather fly, drive or take a bus before I'd ride on a train to Buffalo.

 

P.S....skip the zoo, too.

Very little scenery on the train trip.  A bit around the Hudson River but that was it.

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If you're only going to do one thing, it's GOT to be the Maid of the Mist.  You can't do that anywhere else

 

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5 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Have you been to an average zoo? It's certainly not average

 

Your comparing it to like the Picasso of Zoos.

 

The Buffalo zoo is definitely a good attraction.

 

They don't have 50,000 animals because there mission statement is to help reproduce dwindling animal populations

I lived in San Diego, and buffalo is slightly above average.

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4 hours ago, BillsFan4 said:

 

Good suggestion. I was just going to suggest JetBlue too. I fly to NYC often and always use JB. 

 

They have flights for as cheap as $55-60 each way (depending on the day of the week and time of year, etc). 

 

Its only a quick 45 minute flight if you’re strapped for time. 

 

Amtrak is great if you have more time. 

 

I get what you’re saying, but it’s not quite that simple. My wife flies to NYC almost every week for work. She leaves 2 hours early for the airport. Sometimes (far too often) the flight is delayed. Once in NYC it’s about an hour to get from LaGuardia to the hotel. Then there is the time in the air (admittedly brief from NY to Buffalo, but about 2.5 hours from ATL). Heck, it takes a good 20 minutes just to get off the plane! 

 

But for that cheap flight I’d make the trip a couple times a year. Catch a play, some nice meals, Christmas season, etc. Her boss would like her to move there. That will NEVER happen. It’s for some people, but not for us. 

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6 hours ago, Rocket94 said:

If you do go to Niagara Falls, look for VioIa's Submarines! 

Don't they call them U-boats in England ?

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5 minutes ago, I am the egg man said:

Don't they call them U-boats in England ?

You know what...I may have heard that before. I wouldn't be surprised.

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47 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

I get what you’re saying, but it’s not quite that simple. My wife flies to NYC almost every week for work. She leaves 2 hours early for the airport. Sometimes (far too often) the flight is delayed. Once in NYC it’s about an hour to get from LaGuardia to the hotel. Then there is the time in the air (admittedly brief from NY to Buffalo, but about 2.5 hours from ATL). Heck, it takes a good 20 minutes just to get off the plane! 

 

But for that cheap flight I’d make the trip a couple times a year. Catch a play, some nice meals, Christmas season, etc. Her boss would like her to move there. That will NEVER happen. It’s for some people, but not for us. 

 

Laguardia is a nightmare. I only fly into LGA when I have no other choice. I always fly into JFK if at all possible (sometimes it’s not as close as LGA to where I need to go but it’s very easy to get anywhere in NYC from JFK). 

 

I am usually flying on a very tight schedule myself. 

 

I usually have to be headed into the city by about 11am and take a flight that is scheduled to land at JFK somewhere between 8:30 to 10am. I’d say roughly 80+% of the time I have no issues being on time. 

 

There are definitely the odd times that the plane runs late. I find it’s best, if possible, to take one of the first 2 flights of the day. Much less chance they are running behind at that point. 

 

 

Also, If your wife is a frequent flyer and doesn’t already have it, I would highly recommend applying for TSA pre-screening. It’s something like an $85 fee for 5 years. Speeds things up a lot. You don’t have to take off your shoes, coat, belt etc. and you get to skip the main security line to go through a much much shorter line (there’s usually a handful of people in line, at most). 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said:

 

Laguardia is a nightmare. I only fly into LGA when I have no other choice. I always fly into JFK if at all possible (sometimes it’s not as close as LGA to where I need to go but it’s very easy to get anywhere in NYC from JFK). 

 

I am usually flying on a very tight schedule myself. 

 

I usually have to be headed into the city by about 11am and take a flight that is scheduled to land at JFK somewhere between 8:30 to 10am. I’d say roughly 80+% of the time I have no issues being on time. 

 

There are definitely the odd times that the plane runs late. I find it’s best, if possible, to take one of the first 2 flights of the day. Much less chance they are running behind at that point. 

 

 

Also, If your wife is a frequent flyer and doesn’t already have it, I would highly recommend applying for TSA pre-screening. It’s something like an $85 fee for 5 years. Speeds things up a lot. You don’t have to take off your shoes, coat, belt etc. and you get to skip the main security line to go through a much much shorter line (there’s usually a handful of people in line, at most). 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

She does LGA while her former boss likes JFK from ATL. They go back and forth on that. She’s a Delta flier as we are in Atlanta. She goes to at least one city 3 weeks/month. Pre-check, Global Entry, etc is old news to her. She feels like the Sky Club is her second or third office. She gets pissed when stuck in a city that’s not a Delta hub with a Sky Club! She will land and go there for vegetable soup before leaving for the hotel. For only $500/year, it’s a steal as much as she travels. When I go with her, the free wine and drinks alone will cover it in a few trips! 

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4 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

I can vouch the line from Albany to Buffalo has one scenic moment along the Mohawk River. The rest of the ride is bupkis. Except the 45 seconds blowing down Main St in Fonda, NY at full speed. That was kind of exciting worrying if we'd hit anyone.

NOT sure why this is popping into my wet noodle, but it is:

 

 

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I can personally vouge that they sell some of the best crack east of the Mississippi on Goodyear on the east side

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Take a Miss Buffalo Boat Cruise.  Pick it up at Naval Park just outside Erie Basin Marina... Go thru the Black Rock Lock... See where it all sparked joy for me.  LoL... The technology that created Buffalo.  The birth of a city. LoL...

 

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Cross over this bridge (Ferry Street, bascule bridge I believe?) by foot or car and take a walk out into Lake Erie:

 

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Onto Bird Island Pier, walk under Peace Bridge... Hike out the head of the Niagara River, mouth of the Lake:

 

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7 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

 

 

 

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Only the mightiest of carp can jump that span! 

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1 hour ago, Augie said:

 

Only the mightiest of carp can jump that span! 

The two elevations are basically the same.  That just creates a calm Black Rock Channel and separates the upper rapids where the Lake rushes into head of river at mouth.  The Asian carp wouldn't need to jump.  Just stay right/starboard side when going downbound into river.  It's like going down a funnel rapids to left, calm right

 

The Black Rock Channel is controlled by the Black Rock Lock.  Its so calm there that the rowing crews practice and race.  The current is almost 0mph.  Other side of that wall... The water is rushing North down the Niagara river at 5mph.  So to make 1 mile per hour up river towards Lake, a boat will have to go 6mph to get out to the Lake from the Upper Niagara.  To get out to Lake via Black Rock Lock & Channel, there is no compensation needed for current and depth.

 

Why you see (or did at one time) the sunken scow under Peace Bridge... Because the Captain took the wrong turn from the Lake.  Hung Left, not right!

 

Also: PSA... Why one should NEVER stern (rear) anchor under Peace Bridge (River side)!  The vessel will flip around in swift current, weigh down and water will rush in over the stern/transom.  The boat will swamp and sink.  ALWAYS bow anchor under the Peace Bridge/Upper Rapids!!!!

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If I'm here for only one day or so from far away, there's only one must do and it's Niagara Falls.  Do the maid of the mist.  It's something that you can't really do anywhere else in the entire world.  It's amazing.  And as locals we take it for granted way too much.  Everything else mentioned is just filler.

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3 hours ago, Mark80 said:

If I'm here for only one day or so from far away, there's only one must do and it's Niagara Falls.  Do the maid of the mist.  It's something that you can't really do anywhere else in the entire world.  It's amazing.  And as locals we take it for granted way too much.  Everything else mentioned is just filler.

The Canadian Side boat is the:

 

"Hornblower"

 

"Cave of the Winds" on the American Side is another Falls activity.

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In regards to getting to the falls from Buffalo, we intend on getting the number 40 NFTA from downtown.

 

Is the the best/easiest/cheapest was of doing it?

 

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