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Is this the best receiving corp since Peerless Price and Eric Moulds?

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1 hour ago, TtownBillsFan said:

And to say that when we had the likes of Reed and Lofton on the same team, at the same time, you're either extremely young, or extremely ill-informed.

 

Lofton was old by the time he got here...

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2 hours ago, Nick the Greek said:

Moulds is borderline the greatest Bills receiver of all time. To compare this group to that is well, crazy. 

 

1 hour ago, TtownBillsFan said:

And to say that when we had the likes of Reed and Lofton on the same team, at the same time, you're either extremely young, or extremely ill-informed.

Moulds was damn good and I don't think he ever got that much appreciation from a league wide perspective. It's unfortunate that we had inconsistency at QB when he was with us.

 

That being said, it's very tough to put him above the likes of Reed & Lofton.

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1 minute ago, Mark Vader said:

 

Moulds was damn good and I don't think he ever got that much appreciation from a league wide perspective. It's unfortunate that we had inconsistency at QB when he was with us.

 

That being said, it's very tough to put him above the likes of Reed & Lofton.

 

He was far better than Lofton ever was if you're talking Bills careers. It's not even close. I know it's easy, everyone loves guys from those years, but Lofton wasn't that great as a Bill. His prime was in GB.

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2 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

He was far better than Lofton ever was if you're talking Bills careers. It's not even close. I know it's easy, everyone loves guys from those years, but Lofton wasn't that great as a Bill. His prime was in GB.

True, Lofton was not the same as he was when he was a Packer.

 

That being said, he thrived for 4 seasons with the Bills. He was older, but not washed up.

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1 minute ago, Mark Vader said:

True, Lofton was not the same as he was when he was a Packer.

 

That being said, he thrived for 4 seasons with the Bills. He was older, but not washed up.

 

He only had 8 catches in 12 games his first year. He had 2 respectable years, but idk if I'd agree with thriving for 4 years. He did get a lot of TDs though. I think he gets held in a higher esteem because he was in the right place at the right time here. 

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Just now, Ol Dirty B said:

 

He only had 8 catches in 12 games his first year. He had 2 respectable years, but idk if I'd agree with thriving for 4 years. He did get a lot of TDs though. I think he gets held in a higher esteem because he was in the right place at the right time here. 

I think the Bills offense played to his strengths. Players like Chris Burkett & Flip Johnson weren't good enough.

 

Let's not forget that after Green Bay, Lofton was signed by the Raiders, and they promptly cut him mid-season. The Bills picked him up and the rest is history.

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Moulds is number two at the WR position for the Bills.

 

Remember, Lofton did most of his HOF work for Green Bay, while he had three productive seasons here.

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We still have a bottom 5 unit in the NFL. Maybe bottom 3.

If John Brown is better than your #2 WR, you have a weak group.

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5 hours ago, Billzfan23 said:

Yeah, we’ve had individual studs like Lee Evans, Stevie Johnson, Sammy Watkins, and even T.O. but is this the best overall mix?

 

No not even close. 

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5 hours ago, Mr. Wonderful said:

Could be wrong but I think Josh Allen and the entire receiving core are going to stink.  The defense and the running game are going to have to carry this team.  Gore is done so hopefully McCoy still has some tread left on the tires.  

 

Jesus H. Christ! Seriously? You join up and THIS is your introductory post??? THIS?  THIS????

 

I give you a week. Tops.

2 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

Lofton was old by the time he got here...

 

Wth does his age have to do with anything? 

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1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

Watkins

Woods

Harvin

Hogan

Goodwin

How did we ***** up 2015 man. Added McCoy and Incognito too. Gilmore and Darby. Mario, Kyle, Jerry, Dareus. 

 

How?

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1 minute ago, BringBackOrton said:

How did we ***** up 2015 man. Added McCoy and Incognito too. Gilmore and Darby. Mario, Kyle, Jerry, Dareus. 

 

How?

 

The 2015 roster is the best Bills roster I have seen. It has very, very few weaknesses. Not much depth at linebacker, but they had talent everywhere else and depth in most spots too. Sadly they also had Rex Ryan. 

 

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12 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

The 2015 roster is the best Bills roster I have seen. It has very, very few weaknesses. Not much depth at linebacker, but they had talent everywhere else and depth in most spots too. Sadly they also had Rex Ryan. 

 

HC and QB were the two weaknesses. Those two things went a long way in cancelling out everything else. 

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Wasn't Lee Evans, Terrell Owens, and Stevie Johnson on the same team one year?  The years of mediocrity sort of blend together after awhile.

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36 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

HC and QB were the two weaknesses. Those two things went a long way in cancelling out everything else. 

 

That was Tyrod's best year though. Tyrod's performance in 2015 was easily sufficient to lead a team to the post-season. Granted they were never winning a Championship with him but Tyrod held the team back in 2016 and 2017 much more than 2015. 2015 was almost entirely on Rex Ryan and his band of useless merry men. 

10 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Wasn't Lee Evans, Terrell Owens, and Stevie Johnson on the same team one year?  The years of mediocrity sort of blend together after awhile.

 

They were, yes. 

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7 hours ago, Mr. Wonderful said:

Could be wrong but I think Josh Allen and the entire receiving core are going to stink.  The defense and the running game are going to have to carry this team.  Gore is done so hopefully McCoy still has some tread left on the tires.  

 

 

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Wow. This thread has a lot of revisionist history.  Moulds was at best a good receiver not great. Watkins was at best an average over hyped over paid receiver not even good. Price was average. Johnson was good not great.

Reed was great. HOF GREAT.

Lofton was great.

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8 hours ago, Mr. Wonderful said:

Could be wrong but I think Josh Allen and the entire receiving core are going to stink.  The defense and the running game are going to have to carry this team.  Gore is done so hopefully McCoy still has some tread left on the tires.  

Schopp is that you ???

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9 hours ago, Billzfan23 said:

Yeah, we’ve had individual studs like Lee Evans, Stevie Johnson, Sammy Watkins, and even T.O. but is this the best overall mix?

 

ROTFLMAO!!!   These guys are nothing special, individually or together, except in the minds of ignorant and/or delusional Bills fans.  Zay Jones is barely an NFL caliber WR who wouldn't be anything more than a fourth or fifth WR on most NFL teams.  Brown and Beasley are competent.  Foster is promising.

 

I suppose you conveniently "forgot" that the Bills had Sammy Watkins, Robert Woods, and Marquise Goodwin in 2016 before McDermott and Beane decided that none of them was worth keeping around.

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7 minutes ago, SoTier said:

 

ROTFLMAO!!!   These guys are nothing special, individually or together, except in the minds of ignorant and/or delusional Bills fans.  Zay Jones is barely an NFL caliber WR who wouldn't be anything more than a fourth or fifth WR on most NFL teams.  Brown and Beasley are competent.  Foster is promising.

 

I suppose you conveniently "forgot" that the Bills had Sammy Watkins, Robert Woods, and Marquise Goodwin in 2016 before McDermott and Beane decided that none of them was worth keeping around.

It’s a shame that he CONVENIENTLY forgot Sammy Watkins 🤦‍♂️

BTW Cole Beasley is a pretty good slot receiver 

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10 hours ago, Billzfan23 said:

Yeah, we’ve had individual studs like Lee Evans, Stevie Johnson, Sammy Watkins, and even T.O. but is this the best overall mix?

Seriously?

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23 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

Wow. This thread has a lot of revisionist history.  Moulds was at best a good receiver not great. Watkins was at best an average over hyped over paid receiver not even good. Price was average. Johnson was good not great.

Reed was great. HOF GREAT.

Lofton was great.

Watkins showed flashes and had stretches but never excelled to the level expected. Price had the one year and was average. Disagree on Moulds though, give him Aaron Rodgers or another top flight QB and he would of been HOF bound. 

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1 hour ago, BringBackOrton said:

How did we ***** up 2015 man. Added McCoy and Incognito too. Gilmore and Darby. Mario, Kyle, Jerry, Dareus. 

 

How?

Maybe because we were missing the most important piece ? At the most important position !

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1 minute ago, Putin said:

It’s a shame that he CONVENIENTLY forgot Sammy Watkins 🤦‍♂️

 

The OP was talking about the Bills' WR corps not individuals.  He ignored the fact that in 2016 the Bills had 3 good NFL WRs on the roster who were significantly better individually and collectively than the Bills current WRs.  As other posters mentioned, in 2015, the Bills had an even better WR corps because they also had Hogan.

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