YoloinOhio Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Last cared during the Roger Moore years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 I wonder if that’s a result of the Me Too movement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 it should rank right up there with the new ghostbusters. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 I was listening to a radio conversation about this where they said she is a "British actor who is african american". Ummm yeah, that's not how that works. I guess dual citizenship would make that possible. I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 I'm moderately intrigued how they'll write the script considering that Bond has always been seen as something of a womaniser and part-time misogynist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, teef said: it should rank right up there with the new ghostbusters. She'll have probably an even smaller role than she had in Captain Marvel. But hey, anything to make a few headlines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, shrader said: She'll have probably an even smaller role than she had in Captain Marvel. But hey, anything to make a few headlines. this really does seem like a move for the sake of creating a buzz. not all characters have to have a major change around them...bond to me was one that fell in that category. are they going to make a new charlies angles with just guys? probably not, because that would be insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, teef said: this really does seem like a move for the sake of creating a buzz. not all characters have to have a major change around them...bond to me was one that fell in that category. are they going to make a new charlies angles with just guys? probably not, because that would be insane. The whole thing isn't even original within the Daniel Craig movies. Bond is out of action and has to get pulled back in? They did exactly that in Skyfall. This whole version just has him replaced within the agency. The funniest part about any uproar about this casting is that I'm willing to bet that one of two scenarios happen. Either one, she's killed incredibly early, which is the spark for his return. Or two, she's the villain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 15 minutes ago, shrader said: The whole thing isn't even original within the Daniel Craig movies. Bond is out of action and has to get pulled back in? They did exactly that in Skyfall. This whole version just has him replaced within the agency. The funniest part about any uproar about this casting is that I'm willing to bet that one of two scenarios happen. Either one, she's killed incredibly early, which is the spark for his return. Or two, she's the villain. that's the approach they're taking? you may be very right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 1 hour ago, teef said: that's the approach they're taking? you may be very right. So you haven't read the story? That's fine, but that's exactly what they're hoping for, headline outrage. Bond is retired and someone else has been given his title. Then he gets drawn back in. There is no story here at all. It's not the controversial recasting that some are hoping for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Maybe Chuck Norris can play ***** Galore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, shrader said: So you haven't read the story? That's fine, but that's exactly what they're hoping for, headline outrage. Bond is retired and someone else has been given his title. Then he gets drawn back in. There is no story here at all. It's not the controversial recasting that some are hoping for. now i'll have to. i couldn't even get over the headline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, teef said: now i'll have to. i couldn't even get over the headline. I want to post the Frank Drebin "there's nothing to see here" clip, but there really is nothing to see here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Shrader is correct, they're simply passing on the agent code. Daniel Craig is still James Bond. This must be the last installment in Daniel Craig's run. There'll be another reboot in 5-10 years a la Casino Royale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 2 hours ago, teef said: it should rank right up there with the new ghostbusters. The one that just came out, Reitmans son is filming the actual new Ghostbusters right now in Calgary...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 19 minutes ago, LeviF91 said: Shrader is correct, they're simply passing on the agent code. Daniel Craig is still James Bond. This must be the last installment in Daniel Craig's run. There'll be another reboot in 5-10 years a la Casino Royale. It is his last one, there was already outrage over people talking about Idris Elba taking over the role of 007 and that Bond can't be black. (Trevor Noah had a good bit in his standup act about this and how after thinking about it, they may be right that it would be tough for a black spy to work in Northern areas of Europe...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 I couldn't care less whether a spy character is a man or a woman, but if I were the legendary James Bond, I'd be pissed that they didn't retire my number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 45 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: The one that just came out, Reitmans son is filming the actual new Ghostbusters right now in Calgary...... i remember seeing a trailer for it. well...it really wasn't a trailer, rather a build up clip, but it made me curious. it's nice to know it's filming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Could be a clunker with the director changes, rewrites right before filming and the added audience expectations. It'll be interesting to see how they give gravitas to Rami Malek as the film's villain. The McQuarrie/Cruise M:I series gets better with every installment with the set pieces, story depth and the acting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Info Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 28 minutes ago, dpberr said: ...rewrites right before filming and the added audience expectations. It'll be interesting to see how they give gravitas to Rami Malek as the film's villain. I was concerned with writing until I saw that the Killing Eve creator/writer was helping with the re-write. I also read that Malek mentioned “...it is a clever script...” & I trust his assessment. A new Aston Martin model, Valhalla, will also appear in the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, apuszczalowski said: It is his last one, there was already outrage over people talking about Idris Elba taking over the role of 007 and that Bond can't be black. (Trevor Noah had a good bit in his standup act about this and how after thinking about it, they may be right that it would be tough for a black spy to work in Northern areas of Europe...) Well if you're going to claim it's Ian Fleming's character then no, Bond can't be black. And yeah can you imagine a 6'3" 250lb black dude trying to be inconspicuous in, say, St. Petersburg? Reminds me of that old joke about the CIA agent in Moscow: A CIA agent is arrested in Moscow and charged with spying. The agent is fluent in Russian and has had years of specialized training on how to blend in with the Russian people. he's the perfect sleeper agent. Down in the darkest dungeons beneath Kremlin the Russian Secret Service (FSS) begin their interrogation. "We know you are American, spy Pig. Admit it!" "How can you say that? I speak Russian like a Muscovite, I am Russian." "You are lying, Spy Pig. We know you are a Yankee dog. Admit it" The Agent pulls a copy of Pushkin from his jacket pocket and begins to read aloud. Within minutes the guards are weeping with joy at how beautifully the poetry is read. "You see, only a Russian can read Pushkin like this", said the agent. "You lie, Spy Pig, I know you are an American, confess". The agent calls one the of the guards to play Kalinka on his balalaika. The agent leaps on to the table a dances a Russian folk dance whilst singing. The guards clap and cheer having seldom seen such a perfect performance. "You see no one can sing the most loved song in Russia like this if you are not a Russian." "You lie Yankee snail pig. I know you are an American". The agent calls of 6 bottles of Siberian vodka and over the next hour drinks them all finally smashing his glass on the table. "No one drinks vodka like a Russian and I am a Russian" Impressed the FSS agent claps his hands slowly. "You are good Yankee Pig poo, very good, but I know you are not Russian and now you die". The CIA agent slumps in his seat knowing he is defeated. "Tell me one thing, how did you know? I am highly trained can speak, read Pushkin, sing and dance and drink like a Russian. My cover was perfect. How did you know I am an American?" "It was easy Yankee man, we have no Blacks in Russia" 59 minutes ago, dpberr said: Could be a clunker with the director changes, rewrites right before filming and the added audience expectations. It'll be interesting to see how they give gravitas to Rami Malek as the film's villain. The McQuarrie/Cruise M:I series gets better with every installment with the set pieces, story depth and the acting. The Bond films started going downhill once the USSR was no longer a thing. Edited July 16, 2019 by LeviF91 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 6 hours ago, Blokestradamus said: I'm moderately intrigued how they'll write the script considering that Bond has always been seen as something of a womaniser and part-time misogynist. Lesbian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 They ruined Oceans, Ghostbusters, why not 007 also... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Hard pass. Is nothing sacred? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 1. Her name can't still be James Bond. 2. Her number can't still be 007. So, it can't be a 007 film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 #Me007too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, shrader said: I was listening to a radio conversation about this where they said she is a "British actor who is african american". Ummm yeah, that's not how that works. I guess dual citizenship would make that possible. I don't know. By African American I think they mean North American since her family is from Jamaica. 9 hours ago, shrader said: She'll have probably an even smaller role than she had in Captain Marvel. But hey, anything to make a few headlines. https://time.com/5626544/lashana-lynch-new-james-bond-movie/ by Eliana Dockterman Quote We may well be getting a female 007. The Daily Mail reports that Lashana Lynch of Captain Marvel fame will take over the codename in the next Bond film, due April 8, 2020. While Daniel Craig is returning to play James Bond himself, according to this leak, Bond begins the film in retirement and is called back to active duty when a crisis hits. In the M16 office, he meets the new 007 — not the new Bond, but the new holder of that alias — a black woman named Nomi, played by Lynch. Quote So finally — finally — the franchise seems ready to reckon with Bond’s misogyny. The new production brought on writer Phoebe Waller-Bridge, who has emerged as one of the most brilliant feminist voices of our era with her series Fleabag and Killing Eve, to punch up the Bond 25 script. The new leaks from the production suggest it was Waller-Bridge’s idea to introduce Lynch as the new 007 and that the script will explicitly call out Bond for his dinosaur mentality. Not saying I agree with Time article's assessment. I did not go the see the new Ghostbusters movie and likely will not see this one. Edited July 17, 2019 by Limeaid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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