The Real Buffalo Joe Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 (edited) How many of them have "legend" status today simply because they died young. May have been great talents still, but their greatness and importance are over inflated due to their untimely death. Off the top of my head, names I've heard thrown around (not that I neccecarily agree with all of them) are: Kurt Cobain Jimi Hendrix Jim Morrison Hendrix I disagree with 100%. I've heard it argued that he couldn't hold a candle to a lot of the guitarists today. While that may be true, we'll never know what else Jimi had up his sleeve, or what he would have done. Also, anything that people do now a days, was influenced and built off of what Jimi started. Jim Morrison, was overrated. I love the doors, but he really wasn't much of a singer. If the Doors wanted to, I think they could have carried on with a new singer a la AC/DC with Brian Johnson. Edited May 7, 2019 by The Real Buffalo Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Do Robin Williams, Chris Cornell, or Anthony Bourdain count? They had many years left, but not technically "young." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 (edited) I'm not sure Jimi should be on that list, that would be like including John Lennon. What Jimi brought to guitar playing was the basis for everything you heard from then through now. He was insanely talented and the world, if you will, lost a lot by not having him around longer. Jim Morrison people love the doors, not my thing, had he lived I don't think he would quite have that legendary status. There is a big difference between the Doors and other larger and more influential acts. I think Cobain falls in the Jim Morrison category, how much evolution would he have brought to music over all now? 90s grunge - meh. How about Janis Joplin or Mama Cass? Edit: I am assuming you are not just asking for a list of who died young, as the title indicates, but what your post indicates with over inflation based on death... Edited May 7, 2019 by Reed83HOF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 (edited) The list will be long, and a common theme will be evident in many cases. I’ll throw in Janice Joplin. . Edited May 7, 2019 by Augie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 This post is confusing. Are you asking for entertainers who died young that are overrated because of their untimely demise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 John Belushi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Hendrix and Cobain were absolutely true talents. Randy Rhodes would have been RIDICULOUS had he lived longer. Amy Winehouse was a once in a generation-type talent, IMO. She was supremely talented and a total throwback. Patsy Cline had a voice of silk. Total real deal. John Bonham, to me, was the greatest rock drummer of all time. Layne Staley, Scott Weiland and Freddie Mercury were three of the greatest front men in rock history. Staley's voice was chilling. Not sure if "young," = "too young to die," but if so, I'll throw George Michael, Prince and Michael Jackson in there, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 (edited) Had more to give: Duane Allman Cliff Burton Shannon Hoon Hendrix Joplin Bonham Keith Moon Otis Redding Sam Cooke Marvin Gaye Bradley Nowell Legendary Status only because died young and not really that great: Andrew Wood Sid Vicious Already peaked when they died, but still great: Morrison Cobain Weiland Mercury Staley Marley Once you get past 40 I don't put you on the list as dying too young. Edited May 7, 2019 by Mark80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mark80 said: Had more to give: Duane Allman Cliff Burton Shannon Hoon Hendrix Joplin Bonham Keith Moon Otis Redding Sam Cooke Marvin Gaye Bradley Nowell Legendary Status only because died young and not really that great: Andrew Wood Sid Vicious Already peaked when they died, but still great: Morrison Cobain Weiland Mercury Staley Marley Once you get past 40 I don't put you on the list as dying too young. I like the way you broke this down. Nice call on Shannon Hoon. I'd move Gaye to the already peaked list. I'd also move Morrison to the "not really that great," list. I don't think Cobain or Staley had peaked; but agree with the rest of that list in your post. From my list, I'd add Hendrix, Rhoads, Winehouse, Cobain, and Staley to "more to give." I'd add Bonham, Weiland, Mercury and Cline to "already peaked." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 I suppose it all boils down to what is "young"... Willie Nelson would probably say anyone that's still living. Frank Zappa... nowadays he's have probably been cured. Chris Wood The Day the music died Karen Carpenter Rebop Emerson and Lake etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 I thought Stevie Ray was great and still getting better when he died. 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 26 minutes ago, Gugny said: I like the way you broke this down. Nice call on Shannon Hoon. I'd move Gaye to the already peaked list. I'd also move Morrison to the "not really that great," list. I don't think Cobain or Staley had peaked; but agree with the rest of that list in your post. From my list, I'd add Hendrix, Rhoads, Winehouse, Cobain, and Staley to "more to give." I'd add Bonham, Weiland, Mercury and Cline to "already peaked." I put Morrison there because of his writing and stage presence more than his vocal talent. The Doors were HUGE to an entire generation of Vietnam Vets and the whole anti-war movement. I don't think you are quite giving them the credit they deserve my friend. I could buy off on Cobain and Staley not peaking though. I did really like In Utero and think it is very underrated, and Staley did absolutely kill it in the AIC unplugged even when he was well into his addiction that would kill him just a couple years later. I just don't know enough about Rhoads and Winehouse to give a good assessment so I left them off completely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guffalo Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 https://spinditty.com/artists-bands/The-dead-at-27-Club Kurt Cobain Amy Winehouse Jimi Hendrix Janis Joplin Jim Morrison Robert Johnson Brian Jones (The Rolling Stones) Ron "Pigpen" McKernan (The Grateful Dead) Chris Bell (Big Star) D. Boon (The Minutemen) Richey Edwards (Manic Street Preachers) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 not young, but i always hated that phil hartman went the way he did. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, teef said: not young, but i always hated that phil hartman went the way he did. Those were the great days of SNL...I rarely get a good laugh out of that show anymore. Anyway...I fell my way into a great marijuana trip when I saw Mitch Hedberg at the Majestic years ago...the guy smashed one liners.... Candy..Farley were gifts for obvious reasons... I don't see much out there these days when it comes to the comedy ... when shows like Mom are considered "comedy"..we're in rough shape? Edited May 7, 2019 by Misterbluesky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Hank Williams Glenn Gould Dinu Lipatti John Belushi John Candy Chris Farley Phillip Seymore Hoffman et al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 2 hours ago, The Real Buffalo Joe said: Jim Morrison, was overrated. I love the doors, but he really wasn't much of a singer. If the Doors wanted to, I think they could have carried on with a new singer a la AC/DC with Brian Johnson. They did. The album was called Other Voices. It wasn't well-received. A co-worker once said, "I don't understand why Bob Dylan is considered a legendary singer." Another person responded, "He's not a legendary singer; he's a legendary songwriter." I'd say the same of Jim Morrison's contribution to The Doors. As far as AC/DC is concerned, Bon Scott co-wrote most of their really good songs. Back in Black was a good post-Scott album, but every album after that was simply a recycled version of Back in Black. Even Angus admitted that when he told a reporter, "I'm sick and tired of people saying that we put out 11 albums that sound exactly the same. In fact, we've put out 12 albums that sound exactly the same." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 1 hour ago, SinceThe70s said: I thought Stevie Ray was great and still getting better when he died. Saw him at Darien lake with Johnny winter. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Ravishing Rick Rude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 I might be in the minority but Morrison had a great singing voice... when he actually sang. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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