Virgil Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 Just now, Logic said: I agree. If the Bills could trade down 5-8 spots, make a pick, then use their two 2nds or whatever to get back into the late 1st for a sliding Hock or Brian Burns or Jonah Williams, that would be sweeeeet. That’s my hope. If we can trade up to get Bosa or Allen, I’m in. If they trade back, and can get a legit starter at two of the 3 need positions (OT, DT, TE), then I’m good too. OLB, RB, and DE are positions I want mid round, that can hopefully grow into starters the following year. Oh yeah, and a punter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Just now, Virgil said: That’s my hope. If we can trade up to get Bosa or Allen, I’m in. If they trade back, and can get a legit starter at two of the 3 need positions (OT, DT, TE), then I’m good too. OLB, RB, and DE are positions I want mid round, that can hopefully grow into starters the following year. Oh yeah, and a punter I'm all about Mitch Wishnowsky in the 7th. Even the 6th if they need to. His leg strength has been compared by an analyst or two to Michael Dickson, the rookie phenom for Seattle last year. For anyone who says "you don't use a draft pick on a punter!"...I say...um, why not? He's a guy that, if he's good, will be on your roster for 15 years, flipping field position and pinning opponents deep. That's ABSOLUTELY worth more than an Austin Proehl or Ray Ray McCloud type. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) With the 16th pick, the Carolina Panthers select Jonah Williams, T, Alabama. Top needs: EDGE, T Edge is a priority, and many fell in this draft. Given that we already thought the draft was deep at edge, we’re confident we can address it later. Cam’s coming off surgery, and we have to protect him at all costs. Given that this pick will also help open holes for our other star, McCaffrey, it was a no-brainer. We resigned RT Daryl Williams to a one-year prove-it deal, but he's coming off injuries and, if he stays healthy and returns to form, he'll be too expensive next year. While other GMs project Williams as a guard, he doesn't, and we agree. We’re giddy that the Alabama product fell into our lap. The New York Giants are now on the clock. @BuffaloHokie13 Edited April 15, 2019 by Golden Goat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 10 minutes ago, bkep32 said: Ian rapoport has been getting phone calls from multiple sources that the Arizona Cardinals have been busy on the phones and trying to find a trade partner to get back into the 1st rnd since pick 12 They want Murray and then someone in mid 1st? I wonder if it’s receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 *TRADE ALERT* The New York Giants have traded picks 17 and 95 to @whatdrought and the Oakland Raiders for picks 24 and 35. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) The New York Giants have traded the 17th pick to the Oakland Raiders. The Raiders are now on the clock: With the 17th pick in the 2019 NFL draft, the Oakland Raiders select, Brian Burns, DE, Florida St. @BuffaloHokie13 no intentional misdirection on my part, just couldn't bring myself to what we had discussed and instead saw the great value here. Thanks for making it happen! The Raiders needed an Edge Rusher, and while we didn't see Burns as worth the 4th overall pick, we consider him a great value at 17. We also believe that the premium we paid is more than worth ensuring that we get a top 10 talent at Pass Rusher. Edited April 15, 2019 by whatdrought 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, whatdrought said: The New York Giants have traded the 17th pick to the Oakland Raiders. The Raiders are now on the clock: With the 17th pick in the 2019 NFL draft, the Oakland Raiders select, Brian Burns, DE, Florida St. @BuffaloHokie13 no intentional misdirection on my part, just couldn't bring myself to what we had discussed and instead saw the great value here. Thanks for making it happen! Whoops. I need to update the main page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Just now, Virgil said: Whoops. I need to update the main page. Sorry! Didn't mean to catch you tripping! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, whatdrought said: @BuffaloHokie13 no intentional misdirection on my part, just couldn't bring myself to what we had discussed and instead saw the great value here. Thanks for making it happen! Right now I've got the Giants giving up picks 17, 37, and 95 for picks 24, 35, and Josh Rosen (a top 10 pick at QB in a much better QB class). Great deal and great working with you! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Just now, BuffaloHokie13 said: Right now I've got the Giants giving up picks 17, 37, and 95 for picks 24, 35, and Josh Rosen (a top 10 pick at QB in a much better QB class). Great deal and great working with you! (just don't think about how you no longer have OBJ. lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Just now, whatdrought said: (just don't think about how you no longer have OBJ. lol) 24 seems like a sweet spot to fortify either WR or continue to bolster the DL. Golden Tate doesn't hurt either! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 1 minute ago, whatdrought said: (just don't think about how you no longer have OBJ. lol) I was waiting for you to take lock and try to flip Carr to somewhere like Miami 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Virgil said: I was waiting for you to take lock and try to flip Carr to somewhere like Miami That's honestly what stopped me from taking lock at that pick.I am not sold on the fact that raiders dont want to ride with him this year, and I wasn't free to trade him anyway. If I could have I might have. Plus, Burns was a great get right there- I especially like that I kept the same number of top 100 picks. I much prefer losing value in the top 100 as opposed to losing picks altogether. Edited April 15, 2019 by whatdrought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Oops: @section122 and the Vikings are on the clock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 1 hour ago, billspro said: It would only be worth it for me if he was Aaron Donald. I don’t think he is at that level. I would love to have him but losing a 2nd round pick is tough, that is the sweet spot in this draft. If we don’t get Allen some more help in rounds 1 or 2 this draft is a fail for me. I dont want to give up our 2nd either......unless it is for a legit blue chipper We could trade back up into the 2nd round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 *TRADE ALERT* The Vikings have made a trade with the Eagles. @Chemical has traded #25 and #53 to the Vikings for #18. A few of my targets were taken in the last few picks which allows me to move down the board and likely still grab my guy. Grabbing an extra 2nd is huge as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Wonder who the Eagles are looking for... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkep32 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 you think the pick would come soon after the deal goes thru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 With the 18th pick in the 2019 NFL Draft the Philadelphia Eagles select Andraez "Greedy" Williams, CB, Louisiana State University. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkep32 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 very nice! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 @RyanC883 with the next 2 picks! 2 minutes ago, Chemical said: With the 18th pick in the 2019 NFL Draft the Philadelphia Eagles select Andraez "Greedy" Williams, CB, Louisiana State University. Nice jumping the Steelers to get the player you want. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: @RyanC883 with the next 2 picks! Nice jumping the Steelers to get the player you want. Exactly. The two Devin MLBs were gone so DB is biggest need remaining, especially considering all the injuries in the secondary last season. Byron Murphy might be a better scheme fit but Greedy's prototypical size/speed/talent is too much to pass up. Eagles can address oline and dline depth later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 36 minutes ago, section122 said: *TRADE ALERT* The Vikings have made a trade with the Eagles. @Chemical has traded #25 and #53 to the Vikings for #18. A few of my targets were taken in the last few picks which allows me to move down the board and likely still grab my guy. Grabbing an extra 2nd is huge as well. What’s the point values? I can’t math right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Just now, Virgil said: What’s the point values? I can’t math right now 190 surplus. I figured it was close enough to 200 for this exercise and tossing in a later pick was relatively pointless. Could add pick 197 (6th rounder) for the extra 12.2 points 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Bills please don't do this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 With the 19th Pick, the Miami Dolphins select DT Jeffery Simmons, DT, Mississippi State. This is perfect for the Dolphins. They get a top player who does not harm their ability to only win a "few" games next year because he will not be available until later in the season. The Tank for Tau is still alive with this pick. @RyanC883and the Steelers are now on the clock. oh, that's me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: 190 surplus. I figured it was close enough to 200 for this exercise and tossing in a later pick was relatively pointless. Could add pick 197 (6th rounder) for the extra 12.2 points Yeah i thought it close enough and didn't care to hold it up requesting a 6th or something to get me the bump. Further dropping 7 spots for an additional 2nd would be a realistic deal imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkep32 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: With the 19th Pick, the Miami Dolphins select DT Jeffery Simmons, DT, Mississippi State. This is perfect for the Dolphins. They get a top player who does not harm their ability to only win a "few" games next year because he will not be available until later in the season. The Tank for Tau is still alive with this pick. @RyanC883and the Steelers are now on the clock. oh, that's me. i like the pick, i think top 10 talent for sure if he didnt get hurt and like you said, tank is still on for next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) With the 20th pick of the draft, the Steelers select DeAndre Baker, CB, Georgia. The Steelers hope this does not turn out to be another head-case, but the talent and production is too much to pass up. @Watkins101 and Seattle are now on the Board. Edited April 15, 2019 by RyanC883 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 @Watkins101 and the Seattle Seahawks are on the clock. 2 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: With the 20th pick of the draft, the Steelers select DeAndre Baker, CB, Georgia. Interesting that you went with Simmons and Baker over Wilkins and Murphy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 The Ravens are very open to trading back. Fielding offers. Lost a lot of players and limited with picks after trading for Lamar. Open for business. PM me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: @Watkins101 and the Seattle Seahawks are on the clock. Interesting that you went with Simmons and Baker over Wilkins and Murphy. Yeah, I was thinking about Wilkins, but I think Simmons is a better player, and won't impact MIA's tank effort this year. Baker and Murphy were close. I think Baker fits the mold of a PGH CB better than Murphy. But those players are all soo close to eachother. IF you look at a lot of rankings, you'll see Simmons ahead of Wilkins and vice versa. Baker and Murphy also swapping places in others. Also liked the fact that Simmons faced a lot of double teams and was uber productive, and Baker played in the SEC against some great WR's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 That trade up to 5 not looking so good when we could have had Oliver trading down to 13. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjnick Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 20 minutes ago, Virgil said: The Ravens are very open to trading back. Fielding offers. Lost a lot of players and limited with picks after trading for Lamar. Open for business. PM me Sweet! Time for Buffalo to use their 2nd round pick to trade up into the bottom of the 1st.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Great job all around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins101 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 With the 21st pick in the NFL draft, the Seattle Seahawks are proud to select Joshua Jacobs, RB, Alabama. The Ravens @Virgil are on the clock. The Seahawks do not have a lot of needs, but they are weak at skill positions on offense. With this pick they get (although not a personal favorite) one of the best players on the board and fill a need at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 12 minutes ago, Watkins101 said: With the 21st pick in the NFL draft, the Seattle Seahawks are proud to select Joshua Jacobs, RB, Alabama. The Ravens @Virgil are on the clock. The Seahawks do not have a lot of needs, but they are weak at skill positions on offense. With this pick they get (although not a personal favorite) one of the best players on the board and fill a need at the same time. After taking a RB in round 1 last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkep32 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Just now, whatdrought said: After taking a RB in round 1 last year? was just about to same the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 I’ll make my choice in the next 30 min. Wrapping up at work while considering a trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 20 minutes ago, whatdrought said: After taking a RB in round 1 last year? Yea that’s not a pick they’d make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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