Just Joshin' Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: With the 2nd pick the San Francisco 49ers select Josh Allen. While the temptation to try to try to trade back is great the chance to get a top edge rusher is greater. It came down to Bosa or Allen and went Allen because it shakes up the draft. Interesting pick but only shakes up 2 picks if Bosa is picked at 3. Bosa should be the pick but as the Jets need outside pass rush. Edited April 14, 2019 by Just Joshin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkep32 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: With the 2nd pick the San Francisco 49ers select Josh Allen. While the temptation to try to try to trade back is great the chance to get a top edge rusher is greater. It came down to Bosa or Allen and went Allen because it shakes up the draft. Now pair him with dee ford and could be trouble. i dont see bosa or williams falling to 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 9 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: With the 2nd pick the San Francisco 49ers select Josh Allen. While the temptation to try to try to trade back is great the chance to get a top edge rusher is greater. It came down to Bosa or Allen and went Allen because it shakes up the draft. I really hope this is the niners pick. I don’t wanna see the jets with their own Josh Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 @Reed83HOF and the New York Jets are on the clock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 I'll be honest: It would not shock me at all if Allen was selected before Bosa. I give it a decent chance of happening in real life. Bosa has the higher floor, but Allen probably has the higher ceiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: With the 2nd pick the San Francisco 49ers select Josh Allen. While the temptation to try to try to trade back is great the chance to get a top edge rusher is greater. It came down to Bosa or Allen and went Allen because it shakes up the draft. I hate you 31 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: @Reed83HOF and the New York Jets are on the clock Will someone try to trade ahead of the Jets to get a QB? Gruden’s commitment to Carr is considered to be a smokescreen by some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Virgil said: I hate you Will someone try to trade ahead of the Jets to get a QB? Gruden’s commitment to Carr is considered to be a smokescreen by some I was open to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, Virgil said: I hate you Will someone try to trade ahead of the Jets to get a QB? Gruden’s commitment to Carr is considered to be a smokescreen by some You make the assumption that we know what’s a smokescreen and what isn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 Just now, whatdrought said: You make the assumption that we know what’s a smokescreen and what isn’t. I think Gruden is too dumb to outsmart anyone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 18 minutes ago, Virgil said: I think Gruden is too dumb to outsmart anyone Being terrible while acting mysterious is likely to earn him a couple extra years before he’s back to the booth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Hmmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Move up for Bosa ASAP!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said: Move up for Bosa ASAP!!!! Not sure if @Virgil's community poll can trade... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Just now, Reed83HOF said: Not sure if @Virgil's community poll can trade... There was a vote and people said it would be too expensive. I think the jets would snap bosa up in this scenario and it would take an obscene offer to get them to give it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, section122 said: There was a vote and people said it would be too expensive. I think the jets would snap bosa up in this scenario and it would take an obscene offer to get them to give it up. It's obvious Bosa is the choice (that's who it is, if no one trades up...). I apparently missed the poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkep32 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: It's obvious Bosa is the choice (that's who it is, if no one trades up...). I apparently missed the poll. it was done during the mock sigh up thread. Bills will move to 5 and give up there 1st and 2nd this year if bosa, allen or williams are available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, bkep32 said: it was done during the mock sigh up thread. Bills will move to 5 and give up there 1st and 2nd this year if bosa, allen or williams are available. Yup. Bills can’t trade up. The people have spoken. It Williams is there at 5, then possibly 9 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: It's obvious Bosa is the choice (that's who it is, if no one trades up...). I apparently missed the poll. Is that your pick then or are you waiting on a trade offer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 43 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Hmmmmm The Lions offer #8 and #43 for the Jets #3 - what say you @Reed83HOF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 The tough part about having a one round mock with trades is that, well, it's only 1 round. We don't get to use the theoretical extra picks we acquire in later rounds. If I'm only getting to project ONE of my team's picks, of what benefit is it to me to trade down and not get to exercise that one pick until later in the round? If we were doing, say, the 2nd and 3rd rounds, then I'd get to enjoy the spoils of my trade by getting to exercise those extra picks. The way things stand now, though, what's my motivation to trade down and pick up later picks that I'll never get to use? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said: The Lions offer #8 and #43 for the Jets #3 - what say you @Reed83HOF Need more than that... #3 2200 pts #8 1400 pts #43 too Low I still need 800 points plus 300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Logic said: The tough part about having a one round mock with trades is that, well, it's only 1 round. We don't get to use the theoretical extra picks we acquire in later rounds. If I'm only getting to project ONE of my team's picks, of what benefit is it to me to trade down and not get to exercise that one pick until later in the round? If we were doing, say, the 2nd and 3rd rounds, then I'd get to enjoy the spoils of my trade by getting to exercise those extra picks. The way things stand now, though, what's my motivation to trade down and pick up later picks that I'll never get to use? In real life I may not make the offer above but for this it is more of a thought exercise. Play out the experiment and see where it goes. The next draft is the time to be the real GM alas with no trades. 2 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Need more than that... #3 2200 pts #8 1400 pts #43 too Low I still need 800 points plus 300 OK - make your pick?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Bosa it is @whatdrought is on the clock... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Just now, Reed83HOF said: Bosa it is @whatdrought is on the clock... The right pick for the Jets IMO. If Bosa had gone #2 then Allen for the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said: The right pick for the Jets IMO. If Bosa had gone #2 then Allen for the Jets. It is. Although both teams (49ers and Jets would benefit from moving back as well) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Logic said: The tough part about having a one round mock with trades is that, well, it's only 1 round. We don't get to use the theoretical extra picks we acquire in later rounds. If I'm only getting to project ONE of my team's picks, of what benefit is it to me to trade down and not get to exercise that one pick until later in the round? If we were doing, say, the 2nd and 3rd rounds, then I'd get to enjoy the spoils of my trade by getting to exercise those extra picks. The way things stand now, though, what's my motivation to trade down and pick up later picks that I'll never get to use? Theoretically speaking, what “benefit” do you get from any of this? It’s all make believe Edited April 14, 2019 by NewEra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, NewEra said: Theoretically speaking, what “benefit” do you get from any of this? It’s all make believe Surely you understand what I'm saying, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 19 minutes ago, Logic said: The tough part about having a one round mock with trades is that, well, it's only 1 round. We don't get to use the theoretical extra picks we acquire in later rounds. If I'm only getting to project ONE of my team's picks, of what benefit is it to me to trade down and not get to exercise that one pick until later in the round? If we were doing, say, the 2nd and 3rd rounds, then I'd get to enjoy the spoils of my trade by getting to exercise those extra picks. The way things stand now, though, what's my motivation to trade down and pick up later picks that I'll never get to use? I get that. But I’m just hoping people won’t make dumb trades because it won’t affect them just for this draft Is Williams really worth moving up for? Is he a clearly better prospect than Oliver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 11 minutes ago, Logic said: Surely you understand what I'm saying, right? I do, but the reality of the situation is as I stated. I’m sitting at 7 with the jags, I could’ve offered a first, 2nd and 3rd for #2–#3 to get Allen, Bosa or Williams. I didn’t. Why? Because it probably won’t happen irl and it doesn’t benefit me in the least. 11 minutes ago, Virgil said: I get that. But I’m just hoping people won’t make dumb trades because it won’t affect them just for this draft Is Williams really worth moving up for? Is he a clearly better prospect than Oliver He’s clearly better than Oliver imo. I get that it’s not the consensus around here, but I’d move up for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Adam Schefter is reporting that the Raiders are not opposed to trading down and staying in the top 10. Ian Rappaport is still worthless after the AB thing, but he confirms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Put a poll back up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 Just now, Chuck Wagon said: Put a poll back up! Don’t need to. The Bills will offer to trade up to 5 and every position after so long as Williams is still there 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 56 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Adam Schefter is reporting that the Raiders are not opposed to trading down and staying in the top 10. Ian Rappaport is still worthless after the AB thing, but he confirms. Are you working out a trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 28 minutes ago, Virgil said: Are you working out a trade? I put out some Feelers, but didn’t get any response. With the 4th pick in the 2019 NFL draft; the Oakland Raiders select, Devin White, LB, LSU. I thought about Williams, but we like our young interior guys. Sweat and Burns both seem high right here. This guy will captain the defense for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 (edited) @ndirish1978 is on the clock. The Bills are offering you their 1st, 2nd, and 4th for this pick. Please let us know Edited April 14, 2019 by Virgil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkep32 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 12 minutes ago, Virgil said: @ndirish1978 is on the clock. The Bills are offering you their 1st, 2nd, and 4th for this pick. Please let us know i really hope this trade doesnt go thru, i would much rather stay at 9 and get oliver, taylor, dare i say hockenson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 1 minute ago, bkep32 said: i really hope this trade doesnt go thru, i would much rather stay at 9 and get oliver, taylor, dare i say hockenson I agree. That's a lot if you consider Oliver a equal value player 4 spot later. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Virgil said: I agree. That's a lot if you consider Oliver a equal value player 4 spot later. I think Williams is considered a much better prospect, but I’d rather the Bills stay put in real life. However, for this mock isn’t simulating a trade the whole point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Virgil said: I agree. That's a lot if you consider Oliver a equal value player 4 spot later. I agree. 4 spots to Oliver with one sure pick in Williams. The other 3 may not go 3DT so possible. Giants may hold the key at #6 - pick a QB please. I expect on draft day while the sequence may not play out like this, it is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Chemical said: I think Williams is considered a much better prospect, but I’d rather the Bills stay put in real life. However, for this mock isn’t simulating a trade the whole point? Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Damn you raiders, I wanted Devin White at 9 for the Bengals 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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