Operation Boomerang AG Barr's Investigation of Acts of Treason by Federal Employees

[Deranged Rhino]

Can confirm this sentiment is real from the people at DOJ/other that I keep in touch with. 

 

[4merper4mer]

4 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

Can confirm this sentiment is real from the people at DOJ/other that I keep in touch with. 

 

I remember when James Comey was painted as the paragon of virtue.  How about we let Beardy McGee prove it before we anoint him anything?  So far he deserves the "Brien Taylor, Ben Grieve, Tony Mandarich hype sans results" award I the category of government oversight.

[Hedge]

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

1 hour ago, 4merper4mer said:

I remember when James Comey was painted as the paragon of virtue.  How about we let Beardy McGee prove it before we anoint him anything?  So far he deserves the "Brien Taylor, Ben Grieve, Tony Mandarich hype sans results" award I the category of government oversight.

I completely agree with your sentiment. The point is not to anoint him, but to acknowledge that he’s got a good record of getting results in otherwise dire looking circumstances. And he’s got the respect of people throughout the bureau and in justice. 
 

That cuts both ways, of course. Because if he comes up w no indictments (or a meager sacrificial lamb ala scooter Libby) after this — as you expect and history proves is the most rational expectation — it will be hard to argue that he wasn’t up to the task and/or somehow compromised. 
 

Jury is still out as to which way it ultimately goes, but the signs for the past 2+ weeks are all very positive. Especially when you consider the information dropped in those weeks is really just a slice of what’s known simply through OS information. But we will see one way or the other soon.  

[BillsFanNC]

5 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

I completely agree with your sentiment. The point is not to anoint him, but to acknowledge that he’s got a good record of getting results in otherwise dire looking circumstances. And he’s got the respect of people throughout the bureau and in justice. 
 

That cuts both ways, of course. Because if he comes up w no indictments (or a meager sacrificial lamb ala scooter Libby) after this — as you expect and history proves is the most rational expectation — it will be hard to argue that he wasn’t up to the task and/or somehow compromised. 
 

Jury is still out as to which way it ultimately goes, but the signs for the past 2+ weeks are all very positive. Especially when you consider the information dropped in those weeks is really just a slice of what’s known simply through OS information. But we will see one way or the other soon.  

 

 The medias unrelenting efforts to defend the indefensible as this information drips out is also a positive sign. Zeroing in on the target.

[4merper4mer]

5 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

I completely agree with your sentiment. The point is not to anoint him, but to acknowledge that he’s got a good record of getting results in otherwise dire looking circumstances. And he’s got the respect of people throughout the bureau and in justice. 
 

That cuts both ways, of course. Because if he comes up w no indictments (or a meager sacrificial lamb ala scooter Libby) after this — as you expect and history proves is the most rational expectation — it will be hard to argue that he wasn’t up to the task and/or somehow compromised. 
 

Jury is still out as to which way it ultimately goes, but the signs for the past 2+ weeks are all very positive. Especially when you consider the information dropped in those weeks is really just a slice of what’s known simply through OS information. But we will see one way or the other soon.  

Here's how it goes:

 

A few more months of information drops and chatter.  If Trump loses it's all over.  That's the current plan.   If Trump wins then you'll get a little more delay, another set of distractions and cans being kicked down the road for 4 more years.

 

Look back on the board archives to when everyone was excited that such an honest guy like Comey was looking into Hillary's obviously egregiously inept and deceptive plan to hide her emails from public record.  Who said "she's in trouble now"?  And who took one look at that doofus and started calling him "lap dog Comey"?

 

There is a ton you've found and showed on this board over a long period.  A lot of it is in writing and yet not only has nothing been done, but the opposite, like impeachment, is brazenly shoved in our faces.  What should happen and what will happen are not the same thing.  Even in the most clear cut little segment of all of this, Flynn being railroaded and the prosecution acknowledging the documentation showing it, you have a judge inviting anybody who feels like it to become the new prosecution.  They're continuing to shove everything in everyone's face because they can.  

[Buffalo_Gal]

4 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

Here's how it goes:

 

A few more months of information drops and chatter.  If Trump loses it's all over.  That's the current plan.   If Trump wins then you'll get a little more delay, another set of distractions and cans being kicked down the road for 4 more years.

 

Look back on the board archives to when everyone was excited that such an honest guy like Comey was looking into Hillary's obviously egregiously inept and deceptive plan to hide her emails from public record.  Who said "she's in trouble now"?  And who took one look at that doofus and started calling him "lap dog Comey"?

 

There is a ton you've found and showed on this board over a long period.  A lot of it is in writing and yet not only has nothing been done, but the opposite, like impeachment, is brazenly shoved in our faces.  What should happen and what will happen are not the same thing.  Even in the most clear cut little segment of all of this, Flynn being railroaded and the prosecution acknowledging the documentation showing it, you have a judge inviting anybody who feels like it to become the new prosecution.  They're continuing to shove everything in everyone's face because they can.  

Well, that is not true about nothing has been done. No one has been frog marched to Gitmo, but things have happened. 

People have been fired. That may seem like an "oh nooooos!" to you, but it not "nothing" to them. The top of the FBI and CIA has been replaced. The swamp has slowly started to drain.  A full scale investigation was launched over a year ago, and the person in charge is someone with the ability to read classified documents, impanel a grand jury, and indict people.  Declassified documents have begun to drip out showing the American people what was/is going on.  The next few months should be an interesting ride.

Swamp creatures were never going to go quietly. They have thrown everything and the kitchen sink at President Trump, and he has not only survived, he's done some pretty decent presidentin' with 95% of the "msm," all the  Democrats, all the swamp creatures, and people tend to forget that in his first two years the House Republicans (led by Paul Ryan) were not exactly on Trump's side.

Will this lead to guilty pleas, trials, convictions, prison? No idea. But things are starting to pick up speed. We will see what happens before the election. Because in that I do agree with you - if Trump somehow loses, it will be over.
 

Edited May 15, 2020 by Buffalo_Gal
Apparently, the jury is going to be gored. Fixed.

[SoCal Deek]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Well, that is not true about nothing has been done. No one has been frog marched to Gitmo, but things have happened. 

People have been fired. That may seem like an "oh nooooos!" to you, but it not "nothing" to them. The top of the FBI and CIA has been replaced. The swamp has slowly started to drain.  A full scale investigation was launched over a year ago, and the person in charge is someone with the ability to read classified documents, impale a grand jury, and indict people.  Declassified documents have begun to drip out showing the American people what was/is going on.  The next few months should be an interesting ride.

Swamp creatures were never going to go quietly. They have thrown everything and the kitchen sink at President Trump, and he has not only survived, he's done some pretty decent presidentin' with 95% of the "msm," all the  Democrats, all the swamp creatures, and people tend to forget that in his first two years the House Republicans (led by Paul Ryan) were not exactly on Trump's side.

Will this lead to guilty pleas, trials, convictions, prison? No idea. But things are starting to pick up speed. We will see what happens before the election. Because in that I do agree with you - if Trump somehow loses, it will be over.
 

Very, very well said. All of this gets buried really deep if Trump loses.

[3rdnlng]

1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Well, that is not true about nothing has been done. No one has been frog marched to Gitmo, but things have happened. 

People have been fired. That may seem like an "oh nooooos!" to you, but it not "nothing" to them. The top of the FBI and CIA has been replaced. The swamp has slowly started to drain.  A full scale investigation was launched over a year ago, and the person in charge is someone with the ability to read classified documents, impale a grand jury, and indict people.  Declassified documents have begun to drip out showing the American people what was/is going on.  The next few months should be an interesting ride.

Swamp creatures were never going to go quietly. They have thrown everything and the kitchen sink at President Trump, and he has not only survived, he's done some pretty decent presidentin' with 95% of the "msm," all the  Democrats, all the swamp creatures, and people tend to forget that in his first two years the House Republicans (led by Paul Ryan) were not exactly on Trump's side.

Will this lead to guilty pleas, trials, convictions, prison? No idea. But things are starting to pick up speed. We will see what happens before the election. Because in that I do agree with you - if Trump somehow loses, it will be over.
 

Presidentin', I like it.

[Deranged Rhino]

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[Deranged Rhino]

For consideration, not endorsing... but he's not alone in saying this. Solomon is saying that within the next 3-4 weeks we're going to be learning more, Nunes said today in an interview that he thinks indictments are coming in the near future (paraphrased). The only thing I know for sure is there are more documents coming. If it's the Flynn 302, which is the rumor, that will open the door to the entire SCO team and its attorneys. 

 

One thing said today by Nunes that stood out: it was mentioned that none of the principle targets of Durham (the Strzok, Page, Baker, McCabes of the FBI/DOJ -- not to mention Comey, Clapper, Brennan) have been interviewed yet so indictments can't be that close. Nunes responded by (rightly imo) stating that the evidence is strong enough that they could get indictments without interviewing them. Interviewing them would be a "waste of time" since you know they wouldn't admit anything. The only way interviews would matter is if a perjury charge was the best you were hoping for. Better to drop the hammer and let them turn on one another. 

 

That made me smile  

 

 

Edited May 16, 2020 by Deranged Rhino

[Deranged Rhino]

 

In the launch window.

[njbuff]

I will say this..........

 

More than half the country could care less if Obama (on down) is guilty of spying or not.

 

Big problem, because that same percentage wants Trump out of office, guilty or not.

 

If what I say is correct, you can almost guarantee that if there is another Republican President that the left cannot stand, the same stuff will surely happen again.

[B-Man]

Obamagate – How Obama administration apparently weaponized intel agencies for political attacks

by Fred Fleitz

 

Original Article

 

There is strong evidence that President Barack Obama’s administration improperly weaponized U.S. intelligence agencies in multiple and shocking ways against Donald Trump and other political enemies. It appears the Obama administration did this in a number of ways, including: fraudulently obtaining Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrants to spy on American citizens; promoting the Democratic National Committee-funded dossier assembled by former British spy Christopher Steele that was filled with lies about Trump; politicizing intelligence analysis; leaking intelligence; and spying on political opponents and journalists. In the period when he was a presidential candidate and president-elect, Trump and his aides seemed to have been the major targets of this misuse of American intelligence

 

 

 

 

[BillStime]

Just now, B-Man said:

Obamagate – How Obama administration apparently weaponized intel agencies for political attacks

by Fred Fleitz

 

Original Article

 

There is strong evidence that President Barack Obama’s administration improperly weaponized U.S. intelligence agencies in multiple and shocking ways against Donald Trump and other political enemies. It appears the Obama administration did this in a number of ways, including: fraudulently obtaining Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrants to spy on American citizens; promoting the Democratic National Committee-funded dossier assembled by former British spy Christopher Steele that was filled with lies about Trump; politicizing intelligence analysis; leaking intelligence; and spying on political opponents and journalists. In the period when he was a presidential candidate and president-elect, Trump and his aides seemed to have been the major targets of this misuse of American intelligence

 

 

 

 

Who doesn’t love opinion pieces from Fox

[Reality Check]

2 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Who doesn’t love opinion pieces from Fox

Trump 2020.

[3rdnlng]

BillSlime discounts all of the nefarious doings by Obama simply because Obama is a democrat. That shows that BillSlime ignores facts and loves opinions. I wonder if BillSlime has chosen his new screen name yet? 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[Deranged Rhino]

https://mobile.twitter.com/dcexaminer/status/1262089251078000641

[B-Man]

 

TARGETED: EXCLUSIVE: The Treasury Department Spied on Flynn, Manafort, and the Trump Family, Says Whistleblower.

 

President Barack Obama’s Treasury Department regularly surveilled retired Army Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn’s financial records and transactions beginning in December 2015 and well into 2017, before, during and after when he served at the White House as President Donald Trump’s National Security Director, a former senior Treasury Department official, and veteran of the intelligence community, told the Star Newspapers.

 

“I started seeing things that were not correct, so I did my own little investigation, because I wanted to make sure what I was seeing was correct” she said. “You never want to draw attention to something if there is not anything there.”

The whistleblower said she only saw metadata, that is names and dates when the general’s financial records were accessed. “I never saw what they saw.”

 

By March 2016, the whistleblower said she and a colleague, who was detailed to Treasury from the intelligence community, became convinced that the surveillance of Flynn was not tied to legitimate criminal or national security concerns, but was straight-up political surveillance among other illegal activity occurring at Treasury. . . . This ruse was to get around using classified resources to surveil Americans, she said. Once the Treasury personnel had enough information about someone they were targeting from the black box, they would go to the white box for faster and more informed search.

 

It was routine for these searches that had no criminal nor national security predicate, merely a political predicate, she said.

 

People need to be jailed for this kind of thing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited May 18, 2020 by B-Man

[B-Man]

 

One If by Land, Two If by Sea, and Three If They’re Using the CIA

In reporting on apparent CIA involvement in spying on an American citizen, RedState’s Bonchie observed:

If this were a Republican implicated, it’d be treated as the largest political scandal of the last hundred years.

 

And so it would. Therefore: Let’s treat it as the largest political scandal of the last hundred years.

 

I don’t see evidence that we need the cooperation of the blue media establishment to convince a majority of the American people that such is the case. The Other Guys like to behave as though they are the gatekeepers of public opinion. But we don’t have to accept their formulation. There’s an awful lot of empirical evidence out there that they only have 35 to 45 percent of the voters under management. We can get to the rest, where “we” means the combined forces of the red media and the red citizenry. We do not have to sit here and grouse that “the media” won’t cover this. Sure it will. And that’s because we’re the media, too.

 

As the Mueller investigation was winding down, multiple polls began appearing to tell us that a majority of registered voters — a small majority to be sure, but a majority nevertheless — believed the Mueller investigation to be “politically motivated” or “a partisan witch hunt.” We enabled that. Activists and media figures on our side were the only ones who told people just how crooked that whole Mueller Show really was. It sure wasn’t CNN or The New York Times.

 

{snip}

 

 

Very few Americans know this was going on. But we do. We know it for a fact.

 

There are a lot of these facts. It isn’t just Flynn. It isn’t just Carter Page. It isn’t just FISA. It isn’t just an FBI Director who lied under oath to the Court; or a Director of National Intelligence who lied under oath to Congress; or even a CIA Director who persuaded foreign allies to run sting operations on U.S. citizens for political purposes. It’s all of that, and a lot more. Only a tiny percentage of the public has the vaguest idea how much of it there really is. Things we know for a fact.

 

We need to fix that. Before November.

 

 

 

More at the link: https://www.redstate.com/robert_a_hahn/2020/05/18/one-if-by-land-two-if-by-sea-and-three-if-theyre-using-the-cia/

[B-Man]

 

ADDED:

 

Disappointing, but not really unexpected.

 

It would be almost impossible to convict a former president and likely would lead to others getting off.

 

Find all his lieutenants guilty and that will end his false legacy.

 

 

 

 

Edited May 18, 2020 by B-Man

[Deranged Rhino]

17 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

ADDED:

 

Disappointing, but not really unexpected.

 

It would be almost impossible to convict a former president and likely would lead to others getting off.

 

Find all his lieutenants guilty and that will end his false legacy.

 

 

 

 

 

Entirely expected -- but what this does is turn the heat up to 11 on this guy: 

 

And there's a slew of others in serious peril, including cabinet level. 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

Key excerpt: 

[B-Man]

 

 

"As to President Obama and Vice President Biden, whatever their level of involvement, based on the information I have today, I don't expect Mr. Durham's work will lead to a criminal investigation of either man," Barr said.

 

 

 

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Key excerpt: 

I understand what he is saying (and it is right), but it is tough when one side plays by the rules, and the other side is always breaking the rules. And the rule-breakers never seem to pay, and are instead, rewarded.

 

[Hedge]

2 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

"As to President Obama and Vice President Biden, whatever their level of involvement, based on the information I have today, I don't expect Mr. Durham's work will lead to a criminal investigation of either man," Barr said.

 

 

What about tomorrow/next week?

[B-Man]

3 minutes ago, Hedge said:

 

What about tomorrow/next week?

 

 

THAT is the question, I think.

 

 

 

[Koko78]

5 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

TARGETED: EXCLUSIVE: The Treasury Department Spied on Flynn, Manafort, and the Trump Family, Says Whistleblower.

 

President Barack Obama’s Treasury Department regularly surveilled retired Army Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn’s financial records and transactions beginning in December 2015 and well into 2017, before, during and after when he served at the White House as President Donald Trump’s National Security Director, a former senior Treasury Department official, and veteran of the intelligence community, told the Star Newspapers.

 

“I started seeing things that were not correct, so I did my own little investigation, because I wanted to make sure what I was seeing was correct” she said. “You never want to draw attention to something if there is not anything there.”

The whistleblower said she only saw metadata, that is names and dates when the general’s financial records were accessed. “I never saw what they saw.”

 

By March 2016, the whistleblower said she and a colleague, who was detailed to Treasury from the intelligence community, became convinced that the surveillance of Flynn was not tied to legitimate criminal or national security concerns, but was straight-up political surveillance among other illegal activity occurring at Treasury. . . . This ruse was to get around using classified resources to surveil Americans, she said. Once the Treasury personnel had enough information about someone they were targeting from the black box, they would go to the white box for faster and more informed search.

 

It was routine for these searches that had no criminal nor national security predicate, merely a political predicate, she said.

 

People need to be jailed for this kind of thing.

 

First we don't believe all women anymore, now we don't believe whistleblowers!

[B-Man]

 

[3rdnlng]

[Nanker]

Remember, Comey and the Bureau told Trump and Flynn they weren’t under investigation.

 

[4merper4mer]

9 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Entirely expected -- but what this does is turn the heat up to 11 on this guy: 

 

And there's a slew of others in serious peril, including cabinet level. 

Lol.  11?  Let me know when Beardy McGee learns how to turn on the pilot light.

[Prickly Pete]

8 hours ago, Nanker said:

Remember, Comey and the Bureau told Trump and Flynn they weren’t under investigation.

 

 

 

I forgot about that one. There are so many incidents to remember that I might need to re-read some of these threads to freshen up.

 

 

 

Edited May 19, 2020 by Prickly Pete

[4merper4mer]

15 hours ago, Hedge said:

 

What about tomorrow/next week?

If not then, for sure by the 12th.

[Orlando Tim]

18 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

"As to President Obama and Vice President Biden, whatever their level of involvement, based on the information I have today, I don't expect Mr. Durham's work will lead to a criminal investigation of either man," Barr said.

 

 

 

 

I actually agree with this since it is likely he insulated himself from it and unless Comey, McCabe, and ALL the other people state Obama was part of it then he walks, might not be fair but it is the way it works.

[Tiberius]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/barr-dismisses-trumps-claim-that-russia-inquiry-was-an-obama-plot/ar-BB14g140

 

 

[Prickly Pete]

Actually, Barr didn't dismiss it, he just said at this time, based on what he has seen, he isn't expecting them to be charged. Big difference. 

 

The NYT...(smh)