Buffalo_Gal Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 (edited) Edited May 12, 2020 by Buffalo_Gal 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said: ... a ploy to get the rats scurrying about? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Foxx said: a ploy to get the rats scurrying about? ....gouda or cheddar?............. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 On 5/11/2020 at 10:40 AM, IDBillzFan said: Anyone know how much orchestra seats cost to have a front-and-center when the fit hits the shan? Asking for a friend. I think you might prefer a mezzanine seat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Foxx said: a ploy to get the rats scurrying about? I would have to think the rats have to know they are ***** at this point. The ***** is hitting the fan. Now, let's see who gets splattered. Edited May 12, 2020 by Buffalo_Gal 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Deranged Rhino Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 33 minutes ago, Hedge said: The ICA coming under sustained fire. If that’s shown to be bunk (which it was), the rest collapses. Note the two big revelations this week: 1) Shawn Henry (CrowdStrike) testified there was never any evidence of an intrusion or hacking of the servers. This has been known for years down here, but now is confirmed. 2) Russia wanted Hillary to win because she was “more malleable”. This, of course, was always clear from simple seductive logic. But the fact that it was deliberately withheld from the ICA lays the foundation for a seditious conspiracy charge for Mr. Brennan. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 5 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: The ICA coming under sustained fire. If that’s shown to be bunk (which it was), the rest collapses. Note the two big revelations this week: 1) Shawn Henry (CrowdStrike) testified there was never any evidence of an intrusion or hacking of the servers. This has been known for years down here, but now is confirmed. 2) Russia wanted Hillary to win because she was “more malleable”. This, of course, was always clear from simple seductive logic. But the fact that it was deliberately withheld from the ICA lays the foundation for a seditious conspiracy charge for Mr. Brennan. I try to never use seductive logic regarding anything about Hillary but whatever floats your boat dude. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 ...sounds like Emmet got his check today.....the same judge who called Flynn a treasonous sell out.....this should be good...…... Judge's delay on resolving Flynn case stuns court watchers By Ronn Blitzer | Fox News Judge Emmet Sullivan's decision to allow third parties to submit amicus curiae ("friend of the court") briefs in former national security adviser Michael Flynn's case after the Justice Department moved to dismiss it has struck legal experts as "unusual," if not "outrageous," while Flynn's own counsel argues that it should not be allowed in the first place. The DOJ agreed to drop the charges against Flynn last week, but Sullivan has to sign off on it in order for the case to go away. Sullivan's order Tuesday shows he is not ready to do this just yet. “This is an outrageous decision by a judge who’s now placed himself into that, you know, awful category of an activist who’s willing to set aside rules, set aside ethics, set aside precedent, and just go in a direction because he is politically motivated to do so," former Utah U.S. Attorney Brett Tolman told "Fox & Friends" Wednesday morning. Flynn's attorney Sidney Powell wrote in a court filing following Sullivan's order that there is no local rule allowing for amicus briefs in criminal cases. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/judges-delay-on-resolving-flynn-case-stuns-court-watchers 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 ...Jesus, we are really effed up.......the whole collusion thing was FBI, DOJ, CIA et al and yet Squeaky Clen Bob (COUGH) " gets chosen as independent counsel?......seriously?.....so Comey single handedly trashed the FBI culture overnight because it was "Mother Teresa like" on Bob's watch?.....and now Judge Emmett, who was assigned the matter after Flynn pleaded guilty but publicly said, "Flynn was a treasonous sellout" no invites amicus curiae briefs?......this should be some real good stuff...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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njbuff Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: Biden is so conflicted medically, politically, personally and professionally. How they can let him go out there and debate Trump is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 I’ve long had him circled as a likely cooperative witness. https://mobile.twitter.com/adamgoldmanNYT/status/1260694773595283457 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albwan Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 41 minutes ago, njbuff said: Biden is so conflicted medically, politically, personally and professionally. How they can let him go out there and debate Trump is beyond me. His wing man Barack will be running interference for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 I am more pissed at the GOP members of Congress that sat on all those committee hearings and listened as all these bad actors like Brennan said under oath that they had no knowledge of people in the Trump campaign colluding with Russia. If roles were reversed and the mean old orange man were a Demoncat, you know damned well the dems would never let all of this happen. Shame on the GOP for being spineless hacks through all this! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 17 minutes ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said: I am more pissed at the GOP members of Congress that sat on all those committee hearings and listened as all these bad actors like Brennan said under oath that they had no knowledge of people in the Trump campaign colluding with Russia. If roles were reversed and the mean old orange man were a Demoncat, you know damned well the dems would never let all of this happen. Shame on the GOP for being spineless hacks through all this! Timing is everything. This is chess, not checkers. You haven't seen anything yet. Enjoy the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Magox Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: I’ve long had him circled as a likely cooperative witness. https://mobile.twitter.com/adamgoldmanNYT/status/1260694773595283457 What does potentially mean? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Just now, Magox said: What does potentially mean? Well, I posted that before reading the article -- and the article actually makes it clear that Priestep is not cooperating. Priestep was #2 at the FBI-CID (its most powerful division, and the only civilian counterintelligence agency we have). Had he flipped (which he may still, but again this article leads me to believe he hasn't yet), he'd be a treasure trove of information for a RICO case. EDIT: More here, @Magox -- Huber is terrific (but is still speculation on this point) 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Weak spin. Expect more of it. https://mobile.twitter.com/rising_serpent/status/1260721095617007617 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Magox Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 The argument that seems to be missing in this whole debate is the painting of the picture of what appears to be systemic abuse against the Trump campaign. 1) First the whole predicate of the investigation centered around the debunked Steele Dossier. Which was bought and paid for by the Hillary campaign. Which was then disseminated by Bruce Ohr and his wife who have clear biases. 2) Then there were phone taps that at very best were egregiously carried out and at worst criminally conducted to spy on the Trump administration. What was it? Like over 40 instances, right? 3) Then you have all these White house and intelligence officials who all said one thing publicly - claiming that there either was or could have been Russian Collusion and implicated Flynn and other Trump officials but all of them behind closed doors under testimony said the exact same opposite. 4) Now you have all these people in the White House that unmasked what is IN FACT a political opponent. Were they justified? I don't know, but it needs to be investigated. And I'm not sure how common this is, but the Chief of Staff of Obama, The VP Biden and other US ambassadors of countries like Italy were all involved with this? How unusual is this? And the fact that someone out of that group leaked it to the media which really started off this firestorm of events. The media likes to try to MediaHackSplain their way each particular instance. But when you put all of it together it clearly shows that there was a pattern of abuse. Sure, if it one of these facts stood out on their own, you could make an explanation. But two, three, four???? This is more than just smoke, there is definitely some fire here and it is up to the Durham and the US Senators to get to the bottom of this. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Just now, Magox said: The argument that seems to be missing in this whole debate is the painting of the picture of what appears to be systemic abuse against the Trump campaign. 1) First the whole predicate of the investigation centered around the debunked Steele Dossier. Which was bought and paid for by the Hillary campaign. Which was then disseminated by Bruce Ohr and his wife who have clear biases. 2) Then there were phone taps that at very best were egregiously carried out and at worst criminally conducted to spy on the Trump administration. What was it? Like over 40 instances, right? 3) Then you have all these White house and intelligence officials who all said one thing publicly - claiming that there either was or could have been Russian Collusion and implicated Flynn and other Trump officials but all of them behind closed doors under testimony said the exact same opposite. 4) Now you have all these people in the White House that unmasked what is IN FACT a political opponent. Were they justified? I don't know, but it needs to be investigated. And I'm not sure how common this is, but the Chief of Staff of Obama, The VP Biden and other US ambassadors of countries like Italy were all involved with this? How unusual is this? And the fact that someone out of that group leaked it to the media which really started off this firestorm of events. The media likes to try to MediaHackSplain their way each particular instance. But when you put all of it together it clearly shows that there was a pattern of abuse. Sure, if it one of these facts stood out on their own, you could make an explanation. But two, three, four???? This is more than just smoke, there is definitely some fire here and it is up to the Durham and the US Senators to get to the bottom of this. Well put. They had every GOP campaign under surveillance -- Rubio, Cruz for sure -- as well as Bernie's. If you haven't read this yet, I highly recommend it. https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/icotr/51117/2016_Cert_FISC_Memo_Opin_Order_Apr_2017.pdf Especially pages 82-84 (give or take). This shows that it was indeed systemic and extended well beyond just Trump or the 2016 election. It shows how the FBI and DOJ were allowing unsupervised outside contractors (think Halper, think CrowdStrike) to search the NSA's 702 database (which contains all collected SIGINT and ELINT of American citizens) without a warrant. They were doing this so often that the FISC estimated 85% of all the DOJ/FBI searches run on the 702 data base since 2012 were deemed illegal. This is the document no one in the MSM wants to talk about. It's the document that started the whole saga. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Bout damn time. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpetCrawler Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: Well put. They had every GOP campaign under surveillance -- Rubio, Cruz for sure -- as well as Bernie's. If you haven't read this yet, I highly recommend it. https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/icotr/51117/2016_Cert_FISC_Memo_Opin_Order_Apr_2017.pdf Especially pages 82-84 (give or take). This shows that it was indeed systemic and extended well beyond just Trump or the 2016 election. It shows how the FBI and DOJ were allowing unsupervised outside contractors (think Halper, think CrowdStrike) to search the NSA's 702 database (which contains all collected SIGINT and ELINT of American citizens) without a warrant. They were doing this so often that the FISC estimated 85% of all the DOJ/FBI searches run on the 702 data base since 2012 were deemed illegal. This is the document no one in the MSM wants to talk about. It's the document that started the whole saga. P.83 "the FBI had disclosed raw FISA information" P.84 "the ____ contractors had access to raw FISA information that went well beyond what was necessary to respond to the FBI's requests" P. 84 "The FBI must retain all FISA-acquired information under appropriately secure conditions that limit access to such information only to authorized users in accordance with these and other FBI procedures. These retention procedures apply to FISA-acquired information retained in any form." 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 3 hours ago, CarpetCrawler said: P.83 "the FBI had disclosed raw FISA information" P.84 "the ____ contractors had access to raw FISA information that went well beyond what was necessary to respond to the FBI's requests" P. 84 "The FBI must retain all FISA-acquired information under appropriately secure conditions that limit access to such information only to authorized users in accordance with these and other FBI procedures. These retention procedures apply to FISA-acquired information retained in any form." ...wasn't there an alarming article about who had access to NSA/security files on ordinary US citizens as well?...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 3 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: I would love to see a comp of all the "technical difficulties" that have occurred during these Swampy interviews 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 10 minutes ago, 32ABBA said: I would love to see a comp of all the "technical difficulties" that have occurred during these Swampy interviews ...Seltzer was at the controls rest assured.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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