Deranged Rhino Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Huckabee's trolling has gotten significantly funnier. Never mess with a man's daughter and expect him to do nothing. 4 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: Huckabee's trolling has gotten significantly funnier. Never mess with a man's daughter and expect him to do nothing. He's always been a funny man. I don't always agree with him, but his delivery is usually excellent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 28 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: I wonder if this will end up tracing back to a certain person's email server... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 16 minutes ago, DC Tom said: I wonder if this will end up tracing back to a certain person's email server... You'd think that she would have an independent dedicated server for such "business" and nothing else but if she is anything she is overconfident when it comes to her plans. Might be time to dust off the electric chairs which were used on the Rosenberg's if we are lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 REMINDER: Number of Dems who’ve eaten fried chicken during a Congressional hearing: 1; Number of Dems who’ve read the less-redacted Mueller report? 0 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 (Trump retweeted this) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 7 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: (Trump retweeted this) Ok...the jig is up. That is clearly John Travolta in make up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DC Tom Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 58 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: No, they're not. They've got the media and a third of the country behind them. They control the narrative. The BEST thing that could happen would be for the AG report to indict the lot of them. Then they can scream "We're being politically persecuted by Trump!" and justify the violent coup they so desperately want. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 1 hour ago, DC Tom said: No, they're not. They've got the media and a third of the country behind them. They control the narrative. The BEST thing that could happen would be for the AG report to indict the lot of them. Then they can scream "We're being politically persecuted by Trump!" and justify the violent coup they so desperately want. That's why they need to go through the board rooms of the media companies first. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 14 minutes ago, GG said: That's why they need to go through the board rooms of the media companies first. Strong-arm them, like Obama did the GM bond-holders? "Political persecution! Trump's a fascist! It was different when Obama did it!" And honestly...as someone who's still vitrolic about Obama's GM nonsense, I'm not entirely sure I'd entirely disagree with the first two points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 39 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Strong-arm them, like Obama did the GM bond-holders? "Political persecution! Trump's a fascist! It was different when Obama did it!" And honestly...as someone who's still vitrolic about Obama's GM nonsense, I'm not entirely sure I'd entirely disagree with the first two points. Not really, it will be done perfectly legally without excercising any extrajudicial authority. As I explained earlier, all the Feds have to do is show that there were more than compromised journalists who knew what was going on. If the editors were in on the fix, it's an easy mark for the news organization That should be enough to send shivers down the Directors spines. All of that can happen behind closed doors as a precursor to what can come if the newsrooms continue to play sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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njbuff Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Well, I will tell you Mr. President................. they are harassing the shyt out of you. Time to turn the tables, but that time will quickly run out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 1 hour ago, GG said: Not really, it will be done perfectly legally without excercising any extrajudicial authority. As I explained earlier, all the Feds have to do is show that there were more than compromised journalists who knew what was going on. If the editors were in on the fix, it's an easy mark for the news organization That should be enough to send shivers down the Directors spines. All of that can happen behind closed doors as a precursor to what can come if the newsrooms continue to play sides. But - seriously - the First Amendment guarantees the press's freedom to play sides. Even to the point of lying. Such damages are are levied against editors for such are universally civil suits. The bar for pursuing criminal charges for false reporting is necessarily high, as even complete nonsense is protected by the First Amendment (and rightfully so, on the principle that restricting the press becomes a trivial matter if you can charge them with publishing "fake news'.) And also, it's not the FBI's IG's job - or any IG's job - to investigate the press's role in enabling a conspiracy. Horowitz's report should identify the recipients of leaked information, and the relationships between the press and the concerned DOJ and IC personalities and departments, and likewise how those personalities and departments thereby used and leveraged the published leaks...but should an internal investigation of the FBI indict the boards of media corporations as a result? What would the constitutional implications of that particular Pandora's Box end up being? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 12 hours ago, DC Tom said: But - seriously - the First Amendment guarantees the press's freedom to play sides. Even to the point of lying. Such damages are are levied against editors for such are universally civil suits. The bar for pursuing criminal charges for false reporting is necessarily high, as even complete nonsense is protected by the First Amendment (and rightfully so, on the principle that restricting the press becomes a trivial matter if you can charge them with publishing "fake news'.) And also, it's not the FBI's IG's job - or any IG's job - to investigate the press's role in enabling a conspiracy. Horowitz's report should identify the recipients of leaked information, and the relationships between the press and the concerned DOJ and IC personalities and departments, and likewise how those personalities and departments thereby used and leveraged the published leaks...but should an internal investigation of the FBI indict the boards of media corporations as a result? What would the constitutional implications of that particular Pandora's Box end up being? It will have nothing to do with First Amendment. If you believe Greggy's theory that some in the press were part of the intel machinery to the extent of actually receiving payments, then it's a fairly straightforward conspiracy case that can very easily ensnare the organizations themselves. Just like the charges against Assange are not about him publishing the leaked documents, but being an active participant in helping to steal the information. Just like Arthur Anderson as a company did not commit any crimes, yet that didn't stop criminal charges from being filed. The BoD members won't be indicted, but they'll be the Directors of major companies facing criminal charges, which will kill the companies. They have a fiduciary duty to their shareholders to prevent that. That's why I'm guessing there will be a lot of behind the scenes discussions if DoJ has truly incriminating evidence. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 The press is given access in a way that the average free speech citizen is not. They have a responsibility to report the truth just like a witness in court does. We’ve moved far away from that basic principle now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 On 5/10/2019 at 10:45 PM, Deranged Rhino said: (Trump retweeted this) Then the AG should be happy to testify in front of the House to talk about this lie. Why is he running and hiding from a co-equal branch of government. He acts more like he has something to hide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 55 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: The press is given access in a way that the average free speech citizen is not. They have a responsibility to report the truth just like a witness in court does. We’ve moved far away from that basic principle now. No, they don't have any such responsibility. They are not "The Fourth Estate," they do not represent the American people or their interests, and they have First Amendment protection that is not just separate from the public's freedom of speech, but is broader. What you're advocating for is throwing away completely the press's First Amendment protection...and if you're going to discard laws and principles based on nothing more than their inconvenience, just give up and vote Democrat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 21 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Then the AG should be happy to testify in front of the House to talk about this lie. Why is he running and hiding from a co-equal branch of government. He acts more like he has something to hide. You are being intellectually dishonest per your usual practice. Confronting in a non-trial setting will just tip off those in on a political operation as to potential future charges so they can plan a counter attack. Let a sanitized DOJ, FBI, etc. gather evidence then bring formal charges in court. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 25 minutes ago, DC Tom said: No, they don't have any such responsibility. They are not "The Fourth Estate," they do not represent the American people or their interests, and they have First Amendment protection that is not just separate from the public's freedom of speech, but is broader. What you're advocating for is throwing away completely the press's First Amendment protection...and if you're going to discard laws and principles based on nothing more than their inconvenience, just give up and vote Democrat I took his post to mean a moral responsibility, not a Constitutional and legal one. He’s right and so are you. Kumbaya. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 ROGER KIMBALL: “Watching the histrionics of the Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee (as well as the Democrats on its Senate counterpart, especially the cognitively challenged Mazie Hirono), I am somewhat at a loss to explain their behavior.” “But here’s the truth of the matter. William Barr has pledged to answer the following questions: ‘How did the Trump-Russia investigation get started? Who started it? On what authority? For what reason? What was the rationale for the FISA warrants taken out against Carter Page and renewed several times? It has been alleged that assets of the DOJ spied on the Trump campaign: did they? The entire investigation was plagued by leaks of classified information, a felony: who leaked it that information? Who, for example, leaked the transcript of the phone call between Michael Flynn, Trump’s first, ill-fated director of the National Security Council and the Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak? There is only a small circle of possible candidates.’ If William Barr’s behavior over the last month or two doesn’t convince you that he excels in doggedness and is very likely to answer all of these questions, take a look at his performance in that 1991 clip I linked to above. The man is part terrier (and another part Sphinx). He will get to the bottom of this whole rotten story.” Well, that’s probably the reason for the histrionics. It looks as if the whole collusion narrative was designed to distract from what Barr is going to uncover. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 1 hour ago, RochesterRob said: You are being intellectually dishonest per your usual practice. Confronting in a non-trial setting will just tip off those in on a political operation as to potential future charges so they can plan a counter attack. Let a sanitized DOJ, FBI, etc. gather evidence then bring formal charges in court. HA HA! So the whole thing needs to be kept secret until it is sprung in October 2020! Gotcha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: HA HA! So the whole thing needs to be kept secret until it is sprung in October 2020! Gotcha! If that is your wish. I would imagine court action would start before then but the unlimited amount of evidence should make it last until well past the 2020 election. A knock out blow to the Clinton's would be nice for around Nov 1, 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiberius Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 40 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: If that is your wish. I would imagine court action would start before then but the unlimited amount of evidence should make it last until well past the 2020 election. A knock out blow to the Clinton's would be nice for around Nov 1, 2020. Keep imagining! That's all you have to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Oh tibtard, you sound more like Baghdad bob every day. Keep up the good work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 1 minute ago, westside said: Oh tibtard, you sound more like Baghdad bob every day. Keep up the good work. Maybe Trump can put Biden on double secret probation! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 (edited) Not could. Will. (has) Edited May 14, 2019 by Deranged Rhino 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: Not could. Will. (has) So, Durham was another hidden work factory, in addition to Huber and Horowitz? Below is from James Baker's 1st day of testimony on 10/3/18. (See Page 37) Mr. Jordan: Just to clarify for us, you're, counsel, advising Mr. Baker not to answer that question because of --not because of it's classified, not because of any classification concerns, but because there is an ongoing investigation by whom? Mr. Levin: The Justice Department.Mr. Jordan.I mean, is the inspector general looking at this or is this-- Mr. Levin: No, it's Mr.John Durham, a prosecutor. Mr. Jordan: Mr.Huber. Mr. Levin: Durham, Durham. Mr. Jordan: Oh. Say it again. Mr. Levin: John Durham. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Hedge said: So, Durham was another hidden work factory, in addition to Huber and Horowitz? Exactly, he's already been working on this pre Barr. All the investigations have (because this always was a counterintelligence sting). The timing of all this, and from everything else I'm hearing from people in DC, says to me that Mr. Horowitz has already been handing down indictments which Durham has been handling. Comey/Baker are the most likely first targets - which explains why they've been out in front of the media in the past week. Durham has history with Mueller as well (Bulger connection), which is also likely why Mueller delayed his testimony. He also has a history with John Kerry -- which might explain some of the laser pointing of late from 45 onto Kerry. If they're starting with Comey and Baker, then they're definitely indicting(or otherwise disappearing) McCabe, Clapper, and Brennan. Edited May 14, 2019 by Deranged Rhino 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Durham might be the death blow to the Demonrats. All their obstruction and hatred is going to bite them in the ass. This is why they wanted to get Barr, and miserably failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted May 14, 2019 Author Share Posted May 14, 2019 (edited) The Democrats colluded with Russia, and now they’re obstructing justice. Simple as that. Oh, and they SPIED on political adversaries and broke a few dozen laws in a felonious manner. Their just rewards are about to be served - in a cold manner. Edited May 14, 2019 by Nanker 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 37 minutes ago, Nanker said: The Democrats colluded with Russia, and now they’re obstructing justice. Simple as that. Oh, and they SPIED on political adversaries and broke a few dozen laws in a felonious manner. Their just rewards are about to be served - in a cold manner. And yet you will hear nothing but crickets from MSM and the Trump haters will call this a right wing conspiracy when it was non-right wingists who called all this out in the first place. The way that this whole thing is ignored is mind boggling to me. You would think that some journalists would want to be on top of this story and make a big name for themselves. Covering for Obama on down is pretty disgusting............ or they don’t wanna be Seth Rich-ed for trying to uncover this story. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 For weeks... https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-attorney-john-durham-has-been-reviewing-origins-of-russia-probe-for-weeks-source 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Good work here breaking down the spin in the NYT piece last night (it was pretty apparent) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Posting for the clips (second clip in particular): 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 FEAR 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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