McGee Return TD Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: While saying all the deep state believers (used pejoratively) believe this. Which is false. And misleading. But you knew that, which is why you did it. I edited my post for you Sorry it was offensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, McGee Return TD said: I edited my post for you Sorry it was offensive. I'm not offended (for the record). At all. I thought it was funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: The only conspiracy theory being pushed is being pushed by you. A debunked scenario, devoid of factual support -- and proven false by multiple congressional and DOJ investigations -- yet you still believe it fully because... (you're a conspiracy theorist now, be proud. It's a fun life) You are only saying that to repeat Trump's sacred lies. You are doing Putin's work now. Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Just now, Tiberius said: You are only saying that to repeat Trump's sacred lies. You are doing Putin's work now. Seriously. I'm really not. And haven't been for the three years you've been saying I have. I care about this country and our civil liberties -- which have been under assault by the perpetrators of this hoax. Those people have never been in Russia, they're from right here in the good ol' USA. And they've duped you but good. ***************************** 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: I'm really not. And haven't been for the three years you've been saying I have. I care about this country and our civil liberties -- which have been under assault by the perpetrators of this hoax. Those people have never been in Russia, they're from right here in the good ol' USA. And they've duped you but good. Oh please. You were screaming about civil liberties until Trump supported the reauthorization of Patriot Act stuff. Trump says it, you repeat it. Pure and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: Oh please. You were screaming about civil liberties until Trump supported the reauthorization of Patriot Act stuff. Trump says it, you repeat it. Pure and simple. Once you figure out how the bolded is tied into this larger story, you'll understand my position. It's a pretty clear through-line -- should be easy enough. And then you'll understand the massive regulatory changes undertaken by the NSA in the first few months of Trump (the last of Rogers' tenure). Changes to the FISC are coming next, on the heels of this investigation. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: Once you figure out how the bolded is tied into this larger story, you'll understand my position. It's a pretty clear through-line -- should be easy enough. And then you'll understand the massive regulatory changes undertaken by the NSA in the first few months of Trump (the last of Rogers' tenure). Changes to the FISC are coming next, on the heels of this investigation. I totally understand your position. Under Obama it was the most evil thing ever, under Trump its all fine and dandy. What's so difficult to understand there? Ya, almost no changes to the law, just enough window dressing to act like there is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, Tiberius said: I totally understand your position. Under Obama it was the most evil thing ever, under Trump its all fine and dandy. What's so difficult to understand there? Ya, almost no changes to the law, just enough window dressing to act like there is. Incorrect. The answers are here, page 82-84 https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/icotr/51117/2016_Cert_FISC_Memo_Opin_Order_Apr_2017.pdf Try harder. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: Incorrect. The answers are here, page 82-84 https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/icotr/51117/2016_Cert_FISC_Memo_Opin_Order_Apr_2017.pdf Try harder. Rhino, why bother? You’d get more with used toilet paper than chatting (or whatever you call it) with that paint chip eater. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Incorrect. The answers are here, page 82-84 https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/icotr/51117/2016_Cert_FISC_Memo_Opin_Order_Apr_2017.pdf Try harder. That says that the reforms started under Obama! Lol, so what do you say about that? Just now, njbuff said: Rhino, why bother? You’d get more with used toilet paper than chatting (or whatever you call it) with that paint chip eater. Why bother? Go back to eating your used toilet paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Just now, Tiberius said: That says that the reforms started under Obama! Lol, so what do you say about that? It does not. It says, explicitly, that Obama's administration and DOJ were breaking the law at record rates in order to spy on Americans, including their political opposition, since at least 2012. It's not speculation. It's not partisan rhetoric. It's an official finding of the FISC and NSA. This has always been what the Russia collusion/conspiracy narrative was created to hide. Egregious abuses of our mass surveillance system by the president's team, using private contractors (including Fusion GPS) to illegally spy on those who opposed him and his administration. You want to be outraged about election interference, start with this document and realize that the Obama White House (and likely the W White House before it) had built in a backdoor spy ring to suppress the will of the people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Deranged Rhino Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/442592-steeles-stunning-pre-fisa-confession-informant-needed-to-air-trump-dirt#.XNIAVvr8PT0.twitter 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 13 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: Anyone who gives dates or strict timelines is either trying to big up themselves, lying in order to divide/troll/slide, or just full of schiff. DiGenova is wired in, but he's no exception to the rule. Comey will be indicted. No one knows when, no one has given a date. The closest to a schedule that's been given comes from Trump/Q who laid out the order: Comey first, then declass/OIG report. But even that is not something to take to the bank. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 7 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/442592-steeles-stunning-pre-fisa-confession-informant-needed-to-air-trump-dirt#.XNIAVvr8PT0.twitter Clip from Hannity tonight, more documents to be released this week: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiberius Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: https://mobile.twitter.com/ProfMJCleveland/status/1126085597184049152 Trump going the EP to hide the Mueller report! How can they go after the investigators if no one can see the report??? Come on DR, the guy is complete scum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 28 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Trump going the EP to hide the Mueller report! How can they go after the investigators if no one can see the report??? Come on DR, the guy is complete scum. Everyone, including Congress can see the report. And have been able to for weeks. This whole thing is nonsense. It's fear and projection by the committee members who know their goose is cooked. They ***** up and committed treason/sedition against each and every one of us on this board. If there was real justice we'd bring back hangings in the town square -- but I'll settle for what's coming instead. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiberius Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 18 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Everyone, including Congress can see the report. And have been able to for weeks. This whole thing is nonsense. It's fear and projection by the committee members who know their goose is cooked. They ***** up and committed treason/sedition against each and every one of us on this board. If there was real justice we'd bring back hangings in the town square -- but I'll settle for what's coming instead. Why is Trump whataboutisming about this??? I thought he had been cleared? LOL, he is trying to bury the report. Why? Guilty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Why is Trump whataboutisming about this??? I thought he had been cleared? LOL, he is trying to bury the report. Why? Guilty? That's not whataboutism. That's where this investigation is going. Steele was a political actor, and his dossier was bunk. It's proven. Which means that the FBI/DOJ and Obama Administration perpetrated fruad on the FISC in order to spy on their political opponents -- and in so doing, paid RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE ASSETS for disinformation which they distributed wide to the public. You seem REALLY scared about Russia, isn't it concerning to you in the least that the Clinton Campaign and the Obama White House paid the Russians millions of dollars to sow disinformation? Or do your fears over Russia stop at your partisan line? Edited May 8, 2019 by Deranged Rhino 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: That's not whataboutism. That's where this investigation is going. Steele was a political actor, and his dossier was bunk. It's proven. Which means that the FBI/DOJ and Obama Administration perpetrated fruad on the FISC in order to spy on their political opponents -- and in so doing, paid RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE ASSETS for disinformation which they distributed wide to the public. You seem REALLY scared about Russia, isn't it concerning to you in the least that the Clinton Campaign and the Obama White House paid the Russians millions of dollars to sow disinformation? Or do your fears over Russia stop at your partisan line? I'm scared? Ummm....I'm not the one who doesn't want these people to testify. I'm not the one who doesn't want the report released. I'm not the one making up wahatboutisms Trump obviously accepted Russian help and the obstructed justice to hide that fact. That's why you are going nuts. ----- Nearly 700 prosecutors would open, not close, the case. “Hundreds of additional former federal prosecutors have signed onto a statement asserting that President Trump would have been indicted for obstruction of justice were he not currently serving as president. The open letter organized by the nonprofit group Protect Democracy had roughly 400 signatures when it was initially posted Monday afternoon on Medium. The letter neared 700 signatures as of Tuesday afternoon.” Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Just now, Tiberius said: I'm scared? You have posted for three years that Russia is a threat for working with Trump to swing the election. The facts now show that didn't happen with Trump/Russia, but it DID happen with Clinton and Obama/Russia. Is that a problem for you, or do they get a pass because of their political party? It's a yes or no answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 The 1970s called...they want their foreign policy back...what a tool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 (edited) Yesterday. Asked whether he was aware of evidence that the FBI had illegally spied on the Trump campaign, Chris Wray said, “I don’t think I personally have any evidence of that sort.” He’s one of your guys, isn’t he Deep State conspiracists? Edited May 8, 2019 by BeginnersMind 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Remember this about Barr -- he came out of retirement for this job. It's his last job. He's immune to the political attacks because he does not give a F. At all. Trying to play the same dirty political games against them, as Nadler and the majority are doing, won't work. Barr gives zero schiffs. (posting for the video clip) 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said: Yesterday. Asked whether he was aware of evidence that the FBI had illegally spied on the Trump campaign, Chris Wray said, “I don’t think I personally have any evidence of that sort.” He’s one of your guys, isn’t he Deep State conspiracists? Let's say that you are versed as a lawyer... How many caveats can you spot in that response that answers your question? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said: Yesterday. Asked whether he was aware of evidence that the FBI had illegally spied on the Trump campaign, Chris Wray said, “I don’t think I personally have any evidence of that sort.” He’s one of your guys, isn’t he Deep State conspiracists? That was commented upon pages ago. The evidence has been turned over to the OIG. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, GG said: Let's say that you are versed as a lawyer... How many caveats can you spot in that response that answers your question? He's taking Wray out of context, because he didn't listen or read or watch the full exchange. Which just shows how ignorant Ben Franklin/BM is about what's happening, and how eager he is to suck the d of his "experts" and "authorities" to whom he gleefully defers. Wray's full comments are telling. More so that BM didn't post them. He's not a serious person. He does not think for himself -- which he keeps proving over and over again. Edited May 8, 2019 by Deranged Rhino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Uh-oh... this is bad news for a lot of the people screaming on the majority side of the House Judiciary today... Horowitz has it all. Huber has it all. It's all going to come out, and it's going to be very bad for the narrative engineers and coup plotters. Their time is almost up -- and they know it. Hence the FEAR. (Ron Johnson is on TV now talking about how MI6 tipped the FBI to G-Pop -- if that's true, that would cause another rollback of the start date of Crossfire Hurricane -- and it's the first time a Senator has publicly called out the Brits) 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Deranged Rhino Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Comey just got even more nervous. Expect a contemplative selfie of him in "nature" soon as a response. He's *****. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: I'm shocked that anyone would insinuate that a man who states he has a photographic memory, then testifies under oath that he can't remember things, would ever be dishonest! Edited May 8, 2019 by Koko78 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Koko78 said: I'm shocked that anyone would insinuate that a man who states he has a photographic memory, then testifies under oath that he can't remember things, would ever be dishonest! Like Trump? He never testified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 When did Trump ever claim to have a photographic memory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, Koko78 said: When did Trump ever claim to have a photographic memory? Don't know...but I wouldn't be surprised if he has. And really, he does...if the film is all fogged-up from exposure to x-rays or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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