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Robert Kraft charged in prostitution ring bust ( Update: Kraft legal team accused of lying in court)


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2 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

I still have not figured why TMZ has not got a copy like they usually do.  Maybe Krass has percentage of ownership?

 

Maybe everyone at TMZ is still too busy throwing up from watching the video?

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11 hours ago, Doc said:

 

The link ShadyBillsFan provided also says that the tape likely will be ruled admissible because there is precedent for it being used and LE followed proper procedure.  I think it's safe to say that no more plea deals are forthcoming for Bobby.

 

The link doesn't say that at all doc.  You fabricated that.

 

It says sneak and peak videos have been legally obtained and used successfully in FL--as long as they were properly obtained.  In fact, the story makes this distinction very clear for you.  There has to be evidence that lesser invasive methods of obtaining the same info were tried and there have to be rigid rules of what gets taped and what does not.  That is what the defense lawyers for these guys are challenging.  You should watch the video again to make that clearer for you.  Or read more on this topic. 

 

Also, since there already is a deal where they won't charge him with a crime on the table, there really can't be a deal lower than that for the DA to offer....

 

And if the video is a slam dunk for the prosecution, why did the DA make that weird offer?  Why wouldn't he just say--"I've got you dead to rights,  take the misdemeanor charge and the usual penalty for a first time john"?  The DA's best bet is for the eyewitness to say he solicited sex.  But unless that is solicitation recorded on audio, it will be challenged, likely.

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10 hours ago, Limeaid said:

 

I still have not figured why TMZ has not got a copy like they usually do.  Maybe Krass has percentage of ownership?

 

It’s not like it’s a Vegas casino where apparently everyone on earth, except employees of NFL HQs, knows that everything is taped and archived

 

 

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6 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

The link doesn't say that at all doc.  You fabricated that.

 

It says sneak and peak videos have been legally obtained and used successfully in FL--as long as they were properly obtained.  In fact, the story makes this distinction very clear for you.  There has to be evidence that lesser invasive methods of obtaining the same info were tried and there have to be rigid rules of what gets taped and what does not.  That is what the defense lawyers for these guys are challenging.  You should watch the video again to make that clearer for you.  Or read more on this topic. 

 

Also, since there already is a deal where they won't charge him with a crime on the table, there really can't be a deal lower than that for the DA to offer....

 

And if the video is a slam dunk for the prosecution, why did the DA make that weird offer?  Why wouldn't he just say--"I've got you dead to rights,  take the misdemeanor charge and the usual penalty for a first time john"?  The DA's best bet is for the eyewitness to say he solicited sex.  But unless that is solicitation recorded on audio, it will be challenged, likely.

 

And you're banking on them not having followed proper protocol, considering they've had success getting convictions in the exact same scenarios before?  Hey, there's always a chance!  Which I guess is why the DA put the screws to the eyewitness to testify against him just in case.

 

And yes there is a lower deal to be offered: the video remains private.  You see, that's all Bobby cares about but there's nothing he can do about it.  Now he's going to waste more time and money being an idiot. 

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3 hours ago, Doc said:

 

And you're banking on them not having followed proper protocol, considering they've had success getting convictions in the exact same scenarios before?  Hey, there's always a chance!  Which I guess is why the DA put the screws to the eyewitness to testify against him just in case.

 

And yes there is a lower deal to be offered: the video remains private.  You see, that's all Bobby cares about but there's nothing he can do about it.  Now he's going to waste more time and money being an idiot. 

 

Im not banking on it doc.  His lawyers are claiming it was improper, for the reasons cited in the link/story that you mischaracterized above.  You really should listen to that news report.  It will help prevent you from saying the same thing over and over, incorrectly.

 

And again, Florida’s sunshine laws would prohibit the DA from not releasing properlylh obtained and admitted evidence.

 

You need to pay attention 

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2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

Im not banking on it doc.  His lawyers are claiming it was improper, for the reasons cited in the link/story that you mischaracterized above.  You really should listen to that news report.  It will help prevent you from saying the same thing over and over, incorrectly.

 

And again, Florida’s sunshine laws would prohibit the DA from not releasing properlylh obtained and admitted evidence.

 

You need to pay attention 

 

Pay attention to what?  How to completely ignore reality?  I've been watching you for years WEO; I've seen enough.

 

Yeah, his lawyers are claiming the video was obtained improperly.  So what?  Everyone who was charged with something says the exact same thing just like they all say they're innocent.  It's Law 101, doesn't mean anything in and of itself, and doesn't take a high-priced lawyer to realize to do it.  Again the news report said that Florida LE has successfully prosecuted people charged with the exact same thing, and with lawyers claiming the exact same thing, meaning LE knows the proper way to go about obtaining them.  So you see, I've mischaracterized nothing.  And if the video was obtained properly, it becomes part of the public record, and that's the only thing Bobby cares about.  So you'll also want to brush up on Florida sunshine laws.

 

If that's an example of you paying attention...

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1 hour ago, Teddy KGB said:

Who cares ? 

SERIOUSLY!!!!!! 

 

An old man doing old man things. Tabloid fodder.

1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Please please please let the jury be phins fans... 

Jury trial for THIS? So crazy. Petty offenses are generally ruled on by a judge.

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10 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

Am I reading this right?  The Boston Globe WANTS the evidence to be used?  

 

I can only imagine how that'll go over in Boston between them and the Pats organization when this is all done.

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