Straight Hucklebuck Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 6 hours ago, Billzgobowlin said: I don't think Brady and Jordan should be mentioned in the same category. Jordan won 6 championships in 6 years playing. He was the top of the game for those 6 years. Brady only had about 3 years where he was the top of the game and one of those years his team (18-0 year) they lost the championship. Brady might have been the best player on the team for most of those years but definitely not the best player in the league. Laughable. Jordan was done by 34. Brady is 41. In a sport with 10 other teammates he has dominated for nearly 20 years. 1/2 of the time he ends up in the Championship Game, 1/3 of the time he wins, 3/4 he’s playing for his conference title. And his Playoff resume dwarfs everyone at all other positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, formerlyofCtown said: Gronk, Moss Welker, Bruschi... He had plenti. But I dont necessary disagree. The only player Belichick has had thats the GOAT as his position was Gronk. Maybe Viniteri. Gronk maybe HOF but he wasn't the GOAT at his position. Moss was as much a Patriot as Farve was a Jet. Welker was a product of the QB and he proved that in Denver. Bruschi probably would qualify for the Hall of Pretty Good. Viniteri I believe will make it one day though they usually dismiss special teams. Plus... I'm a Knicks fan and despise Phil Jackson with all my being. Edited February 5, 2019 by billsbackto81 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Basketball and football are both team games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Dumb analogy. First and foremost, no one is out there asking if it was MJ or Phil Jackson.... i think the discussion can end right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Success said: Basketball and football are both team games. one man can dominate hoops a man invented the bogus Triangle O which meant dicking around until you got the ball to Michael or Kobe or Shaq and then they singlehandedly worked to get the basket the Triangle failed miserably when it revolved around Kwame or Eddy Curry or Frankie Smokes Edited February 5, 2019 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) 38 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: Gronk maybe HOF but he wasn't the GOAT at his position. Moss was as much a Patriot as Farve was a Jet. Welker was a product of the QB and he proved that in Denver. Bruschi probably would qualify for the Hall of Pretty Good. Viniteri I believe will make it one day though they usually dismiss special teams. Plus... I'm a Knicks fan a despise Phil Jackson with all my being. Oh so Jackson had all these guy their whole careers. I really didnt think that was the case. I thought Rodman came from a team other than the bulls. ? As to your last statement. You need to learn to be more objective. You need to realise their are alot of players on an NFL team that contribute. There are only so many touches to go around. As for Gronk, tell me who is and justify it dont just give a name. Also remember TE is not WR so you can forget Gonzales and Graham. Edited February 5, 2019 by formerlyofCtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: Oh so Jackson had all these guy their whole careers. I really didnt think that was the case. I thought Rodman came from a team other than the bulls. ? As to your last statement. You need to learn to be more objective. You need to realise their are alot of players on an NFL team that contribute. There are only so many touches to go around. As for Gronk, tell me who is and justify it dont just give a name. Also remember TE is not WR so you can forget Gonzales and Graham. Are we debating coaches or players? I'm saying Belicheck was a far better coach than Jackson. As far as TEs go. http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/0ap3000000816049/gil-brandt's-14-greatest-nfl-tight-ends-of-all-time Maybe you'll agree with someone who knows a little more about football than me and you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 4 hours ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: Brady is about as athletic as Fat Albert, it would be like comparing Jack Nicklaus to Jordan. Stupid comparison. You do realize he was drafted out of HS into the MLB right? he may not look like your typical athlete... but after all he’s done... he’s obviously a phenomenal athlete ... tremendously gifted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMIEBUF12 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 But remember I think Yogi Berra has like 8 rings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninChicago Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Man these “hot takes” are getting dumber and dumber. I suppose he is going to need 16 titles to compare shoulder to shoulder with John Cena then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Brady is still winning championships at his age , Jordan was not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 4 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: I don't even think you can go there with Bill and Phil. Jackson had Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, Kobe, Shaq... All Hall of Fame. Belicheck had Brady and..................? As much as I hate him Bill is the superior of the two......IMO of course. HoFers Gronk and Edelman. Ty Law. Etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 hour ago, billsbackto81 said: Are we debating coaches or players? I'm saying Belicheck was a far better coach than Jackson. As far as TEs go. http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/0ap3000000816049/gil-brandt's-14-greatest-nfl-tight-ends-of-all-time Maybe you'll agree with someone who knows a little more about football than me and you. You'll have to forgive me for thinking for myself and not bowing before a washed up has been. Tony Gonzalez was the best pass catching TE. Not the best all around TE. Now we are the ones having the convo her and all you did was give a name and some elses opinion. Im not debating Brandt Im talking to you. Judging by his list he is overly impressed with the recieving stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneykm Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 I honestly think he wants 7. If he gets that, its nearly impossible to dispute that he's not only the best to play in the NFL but that he's the best to play a sport period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 This is a Bills forum. Why do we have to ride Brady’s jock in here? I’m sure there’s a few hundred Pats forums you could bring this to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Jordan played offense and defense Jordan was not carried by his team to any titles. Jordan took time off in the middle of his dominant career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) whatever How many suspensions did MJ get for cheating? Edited February 5, 2019 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plano Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 No JORDAN never lost a championship. Brady lost multiple. /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 13 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: whatever How many suspensions did MJ get for cheating? Zero! Which BTW is how many championships he's lost.. Case closed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 hour ago, BringBackOrton said: HoFers Gronk and Edelman. Ty Law. Etc. Gronk- Eventually Law- Borderline Edelman- No way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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