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18 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said:

If our GM is planning for 2020 or 2021 then he should be fired today. It doesn't take multiple years to develop a roster to make a playoff run. All you need is a QB. After that you should contend every year or be shown the door. This idea of a 4 or 5 year rebuild has not occurred since the 1980s. Now, you get the QB and then you contend every year. The Bills' prior GMs never found the QB. Was Carolina a 5 year rebuild. No. They got Cam and they were in a Superbowl.  Same with Denver, KC, Seattle, and now LA. 

Beane got his QB and gave up tremendous resources to get him.  He gave away tons of talent to get his cap room. Now it is time to win. 

I fully agree but I will add that now it is time to protect him. The Bills prior GMs also did not devote ample resources to blocking.

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18 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said:

If our GM is planning for 2020 or 2021 then he should be fired today. It doesn't take multiple years to develop a roster to make a playoff run. All you need is a QB. After that you should contend every year or be shown the door. This idea of a 4 or 5 year rebuild has not occurred since the 1980s. Now, you get the QB and then you contend every year. The Bills' prior GMs never found the QB. Was Carolina a 5 year rebuild. No. They got Cam and they were in a Superbowl.  Same with Denver, KC, Seattle, and now LA. 

Beane got his QB and gave up tremendous resources to get him.  He gave away tons of talent to get his cap room. Now it is time to win. 

100% agree but I'm not sure Terry does. 

 

Look at the Sabres. They are in like year 7 of a rebuild. Different sports, but it doesn't take 7 years to rebuild a hockey team either.

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Just now, ScottLaw said:

100% agree but I'm not sure Terry does. 

 

Look at the Sabres. They are in like year 7 of a rebuild. Different sports, but it doesn't take 7 years to rebuild a hockey team either.

scott talk!  is it never too early to do this?

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1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

It might be too early in Visalia, CA.

scott's anger doesn't deal with time zones.

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If we can only have one McCoy, I will take Gerald

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20 minutes ago, teef said:

scott talk!  is it never too early to do this?

Lol.

 

Teef you are great. You accuse me of being angry but it's so obvious you are the one who is mad.

 

Sorry my posts get you upset. Just an observation that the Sabres have sucked since Pegula bought the team. 

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1 minute ago, ScottLaw said:

Lol.

 

Teef you are great. You accuse me of being angry but it's so obvious you are the one who is mad.

 

Sorry my posts get you upset. Just an observation that the Sabres have sucked since Pegula bought the team. 

maybe angry isn't the word.  salty is probably better.  do you have any hair left?

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1 minute ago, teef said:

maybe angry isn't the word.  salty is probably better.  do you have any hair left?

On my face, yes.

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Just now, ScottLaw said:

On my face, yes.

does it creep down to your neck?  if i find out you wear a fedora, i'm going to be mean.

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9 minutes ago, teef said:

does it creep down to your neck?  if i find out you wear a fedora, i'm going to be mean.

Yea. With a feather in it. It's real hip down here. 

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31 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Yea. With a feather in it. It's real hip down here. 

this is perfect.

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15 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

Oh really?

 

Star?

 

Vontae?

 

Trent Murphy?

 

Beane did quite a bit of overpaying in FA last year to get "their" guys.

 

 

 

4 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

Which track record is this? 

 

He oveerpaid for Star.

 

Glass half empty guys?? I did notice the guys you are referencing are all defensive guys. All I know is when you look at the results of all the defensive moves that have been made in the two years that he has been here we have a top 3 defense after the mess the Ryan brothers left us. Maybe try and look at the positive side of things like a Levi Wallace or a Micah Hyde. 

 

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I could see Beane being interested in him.

 

He has been a quality player and Frazier has coached him in TB..

 

His contract means he can be cut if he is not earning his money but I think he might have a couple of years left..

 

My prediction is that he would cost a 5th

 

 

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23 hours ago, YodaMan79 said:

I laugh when I see posts about stealing other players for little to nothing, and they think it's possible.  I bet these are the same people that thought getting a 2 or 3 for McCoy was possible, and thought 5-6 round pick was ridiculous.  

 

If available, I'd make a full push for this guy.  They need to start spending money.  Might as well get a proven commodity that fits the scheme. 

IN WHAT WORLD IS GERALD MCCOY WORTH A 7TH AND NOT A STEAL FOR THAT AND WHAT.. 13M WE PROBABLY WON'T EVEN BE ABLE TO SPEND??!

 

Triggered. HE'S NOT A 7TH WHAT IS WRONG WITH YA'LL'S BRAINS?!

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Doubtful that the d line will be addressed in the off season, thinking Harrison and Phillips rotate replacing kyle. Star mans the  other tackle , Hughes, shaq, Murphy man the ends...maybe a depth signing but to many needs for a major move

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6 hours ago, ProcessAccepted said:

 

 

Glass half empty guys?? I did notice the guys you are referencing are all defensive guys. All I know is when you look at the results of all the defensive moves that have been made in the two years that he has been here we have a top 3 defense after the mess the Ryan brothers left us. Maybe try and look at the positive side of things like a Levi Wallace or a Micah Hyde. 

 

 

 

Let me remind you of your quote:

 

"Beane has an expanding track record of getting guys who really perform for less than top money. He's not going to go out there and get a guy at any cost. We're finally over those types of contracts and there is no way he's going to put us back there."

 

False.

 

Beane has a track record(the one offseason) of over-paying in free agency.    Lotulelei, Murphy, Vontae, McCarron, Bodine, Newhouse.   He also traded for a guaranteed contract(Corey Coleman) and then cut the guy 2 weeks later.   

 

And btw.........Micah Hyde was signed pre-Beane...............and Wallace was an UNDRAFTED FREE AGENT........not an unrestricted one.......it's kinda' easy to avoid "those types of contracts" with UDFA.:doh:

 

Try to get some facts right at least.

 

Even if not all of them......perhaps just a few so you aren't so ENTIRELY ***** WRONG that I have to correct you?

 

  Can you do that?:thumbsup:😂

 

 

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4 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

Beane has a track record(the one offseason) of over-paying in free agency. Lotulelei, Murphy, Vontae, McCarron, Bodine, Newhouse.   He also traded for a guaranteed contract(Corey Coleman) and then cut the guy 2 weeks later.   

 

 

Try to get some facts right at least.

 

Even if not all of them......perhaps just a few so you aren't so ENTIRELY ***** WRONG that I have to correct you?

 


Are you serious with this garbage? Beane overpaid for McCarron? REALLY?! And Bodine, too? Absolute nonsense. Furthermore, he later TRADED McCarron and Newhouse to other teams for draft picks. What a waste their signings were 🙄

As for sending the Browns a 7th round pick for a former 1st round WR when the Bills were desperate for WR help and speed on the outside...are you REALLY gonna fault him for taking that swing?

Seriously, you're trying too hard with the Beane hate. 

And then you have the nerve to end with the two sentences you ended with? If you're gonna be a big richard, take your own advice and "try to get some facts right at least".

 

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On 1/29/2019 at 1:14 PM, Ethan in Portland said:

Was Carolina a 5 year rebuild. No. They got Cam and they were in a Superbowl. 

 

 Don’t let facts get in your way. 

 

Cam Newton was drafted in 2011. The Panthers were in the 2016 SB.

 

I mean you literally couldn’t have chosen a worse example to prove your point.

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It will boil down to whether they think McCoy can play to 13M/yr. Or settle for Phillips & Phillips and draft a DT(Lawrence) in April. Star will need help.....

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8 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

Salty Anger sounds like an teenage emo band name.

 

Not really, no.

 

We know you love Teef dude.

 

I'm sure Howie Mandell loved George Carlin too...........but c'mon man.............you get nothing to hit after Teef's been up...........you are batting below the Mendoza-line on those.

 

Stick with them free-range gifs.    That's your rubber glove.✌️

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33 minutes ago, Logic said:


Are you serious with this garbage? Beane overpaid for McCarron? REALLY?! And Bodine, too? Absolute nonsense. Furthermore, he later TRADED McCarron and Newhouse to other teams for draft picks. What a waste their signings were 🙄

As for sending the Browns a 7th round pick for a former 1st round WR when the Bills were desperate for WR help and speed on the outside...are you REALLY gonna fault him for taking that swing?

Seriously, you're trying too hard with the Beane hate. 

And then you have the nerve to end with the two sentences you ended with? If you're gonna be a big richard, take your own advice and "try to get some facts right at least".

 

 

 

Beane himself was highly disappointed with the McCarron signing........."he wasn't who we thought he was"..........so yes........$5M for a guy who so underperformed that Nate Peterman ends up beating him out is ABSOLUTELY an overpay.

 

And btw it's not Beane hate..........it's the McBeane reality..........they didn't get good value in free agency last year...........it's hard to deny that but then we have people like @ProcessAccepted claiming that Beane has an ever growing track record of only getting bargains and you come barking behind him with more nonsense.

 

As I always say..........get the guys at high $ positions in the early rounds of the draft..........don't draft your run stuffers or RB's or safeties or guards/centers early........you can always overpay for them in FA and come out fine so long as you have your expensive positions covered with home grown talent.

 

So I'm not even necessarily EXPECTING Beane to get great value in FA..........he's probably going to have to continue to over pay...........but we don't have to pretend that things like paying Star Lotulelei $1M per tackle and then watching Jordan Poyer wear himself out tackling RB's was money well spent.........it wasn't.  

 

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39 minutes ago, Logic said:


Are you serious with this garbage? Beane overpaid for McCarron? REALLY?! And Bodine, too? Absolute nonsense. Furthermore, he later TRADED McCarron and Newhouse to other teams for draft picks. What a waste their signings were 🙄

As for sending the Browns a 7th round pick for a former 1st round WR when the Bills were desperate for WR help and speed on the outside...are you REALLY gonna fault him for taking that swing?

Seriously, you're trying too hard with the Beane hate. 

And then you have the nerve to end with the two sentences you ended with? If you're gonna be a big richard, take your own advice and "try to get some facts right at least".

 

McCarron = $4M for a 5th round 2019 draft pick.......

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Just now, BUFFALOBART said:

McCarron = $4M for a 5th round 2019 draft pick.......

I actually see that as a positive considering I'm not writing the checks. It's basically a 5th round pick for nothing(other than Terry's money).

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