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On 1/30/2019 at 9:35 PM, Logic said:


I'll say it again: Imagine rating Star Lotulelei on the basis of his sacks and QB hits. 

It's like rating a WR on the amount of pancake blocks he gets. 

Exactly, asked coaches, players and look at the 22. The guy is all about doing what’s asked of him and that’s take on double teams. Even in the pass rush, he ties up guys so others can go at them.

Star is a good and very underrated player. He’s a little over paid but good run stuffing DTs get 8 to 10 mil a year. The ones who get after the qb get paid in the 12 to 15 range, which star is not 

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$13 million for a soon to be 31 yr old DT.  His salary has no dead cap.  Give TB a 7th rounder and take over his contract.  He is a little expensive but his contract could be dropped at any time.  For

If our GM is planning for 2020 or 2021 then he should be fired today. It doesn't take multiple years to develop a roster to make a playoff run. All you need is a QB. After that you should contend ever

I was just a kid at the time and  the first game of NFL I ever watched on TV..1981 AFC Wildcard playoff game Bills v Jets..Bills won..   Something about the game appealed to me immensely and

3 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said:

Hey Aussie Joe. Nice to have a civil discussion and difference of opinion. Are you from Australia or have links to it?

 

To be fair a guy like Gerald McCoy is not going to sign for peanuts. This is probably his last chance at a big contract. I could see him being a great fit for a team like Pittsburgh, KC or Indy. Teams that can win it all next year by adding a player or two on the defense. Our beloved Bills are a couple of years away.

 

I'm a fan of rolling over free cap and bringing in 2-3 rookie classes with a new GM and see what you have before spending high money on 30+ guys who are short term solutions.

Beane has only had one draft to let his work out.

 

I'd rather have guys approaching 30 in 2-3 yrs than 30-32 now.

 

IMO its a better way to build a team if OBD thinks they have the QB in place.

 

We will have to see what OBD thinks.

 

I've been a fan of Gerald McCoy, terrific DT. I just don't think he's the right guy right now for Buffalo.

 

Hi.. yes I am from Aust but have been a Bills fan for a very long time ..about 35 years.. the past few years I have travelled to the US to take in a few Bills games..hope to continue to do this each year for as long as I am financially able to..

 

Just so you understand what I am saying with McCoy.. he has three years left on his contract with Tampa Bay which could be an option to trade for..

 

The terms of his contract are that he can be cut after each year with no longer term cap implications.. ( ie dead cap)..The catch is that he is due to earn $13m per year so he is not cheap..

 

I wouldn’t be interested in signing him to a new deal to be honest..

 

I just have a gut feeling that he is on Beane’s radar to fill Kyle’s hole..and Frazier used to coach him in TB a couple of years ago so he will be familiar with him..

 

He is 31 so it will be a bit of a risk.. just think if they trade for his contract they can move on with a minimum of penalty if it doesn’t work out..

 

Would probably cost a 5th rounder to trade for him as a guesstimate.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

 

Hi.. yes I am from Aust but have been a Bills fan for a very long time ..about 35 years.. the past few years I have travelled to the US to take in a few Bills games..hope to continue to do this each year for as long as I am financially able to..

 

Just so you understand what I am saying with McCoy.. he has three years left on his contract with Tampa Bay which could be an option to trade for..

 

The terms of his contract are that he can be cut after each year with no longer term cap implications.. ( ie dead cap)..The catch is that he is due to earn $13m per year so he is not cheap..

 

I wouldn’t be interested in signing him to a new deal to be honest..

 

I just have a gut feeling that he is on Beane’s radar to fill Kyle’s hole..and Frazier used to coach him in TB a couple of years ago so he will be familiar with him..

 

He is 31 so it will be a bit of a risk.. just think if they trade for his contract they can move on with a minimum of penalty if it doesn’t work out..

 

Would probably cost a 5th rounder to trade for him as a guesstimate.

 

 

How in the world does one from the continent of Australia CHOOSE to be a Bills fan? You're a glutton for punishment, aren't you?

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15 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:

How in the world does one from the continent of Australia CHOOSE to be a Bills fan? You're a glutton for punishment, aren't you?

 

I was just a kid at the time and  the first game of NFL I ever watched on TV..1981 AFC Wildcard playoff game Bills v Jets..Bills won..

 

Something about the game appealed to me immensely and have followed both the Bills and the game as a whole as closely as I could.. 

 

In those pre internet and pay TV 24 hr sports channels years, that meant buying the local paper in Aust on the Tuesday, and turning to the fine print of the Sports section to see the latest results from the previous weekend to see if the Bills had won..

 

Glad times have changed now..

 

Have stuck with the Bills through some good but mostly the bad years ever since.. I’m too old and set in my ways now to change teams..

 

In sure they will win it one year right... hopefully soon as none of us are getting any younger..

 

 

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15 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

 

I was just a kid at the time and  the first game of NFL I ever watched on TV..1981 AFC Wildcard playoff game Bills v Jets..Bills won..

 

Something about the game appealed to me immensely and have followed both the Bills and the game as a whole as closely as I could.. 

 

In those pre internet and pay TV 24 hr sports channels years, that meant buying the local paper in Aust on the Tuesday, and turning to the fine print of the Sports section to see the latest results from the previous weekend to see if the Bills had won..

 

Glad times have changed now..

 

Have stuck with the Bills through some good but mostly the bad years ever since.. I’m too old and set in my ways now to change teams..

 

In sure they will win it one year right... hopefully soon as none of us are getting any younger..

 

 

 

My how times have changed! Even in the states back then the only thing I could get was a paragraph on each team in the USA Today sports section once a week. Now? Holy cow! The information available is almost unlimited. You can see a game in so many ways, get the interviews, all-22, etc. Very cool that the world has gotten so much smaller and it’s easier for you (and all of us!) to follow along. 

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7 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

My how times have changed! Even in the states back then the only thing I could get was a paragraph on each team in the USA Today sports section once a week. Now? Holy cow! The information available is almost unlimited. You can see a game in so many ways, get the interviews, all-22, etc. Very cool that the world has gotten so much smaller and it’s easier for you (and all of us!) to follow along. 

 

Yes.. I agree it’s unbelievable how times have changed.. I can now probably follow the Bills now just as closely as you guys via the various available media..

 

I remember one year during the SuperBowl years when the AFC Championship game was not being shown live on Aust TV so I actually rang up a Sydney radio station, asked to be put through to their sports section and got them to check their news/wire sources to see if the Bills had won the game.. 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

 

Yes.. I agree it’s unbelievable how times have changed.. I can now probably follow the Bills now just as closely as you guys via the various available media..

 

I remember one year during the SuperBowl years when the AFC Championship game was not being shown live on Aust TV so I actually rang up a Sydney radio station, asked to be put through to their sports section and got them to check their news/wire sources to see if the Bills had won the game.. 

 

 

 

Back then ESPN could rule the sports world easily because they were the only network focused solely on sports. The world changed faster than they did. Competition makes everybody up their game, or die away. As a kid I had three channels. Now I’m almost embarrassed by how many options we have. 

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15 hours ago, RocCityRoller said:

Hey Aussie Joe. Nice to have a civil discussion and difference of opinion. Are you from Australia or have links to it?

 

To be fair a guy like Gerald McCoy is not going to sign for peanuts. This is probably his last chance at a big contract. I could see him being a great fit for a team like Pittsburgh, KC or Indy. Teams that can win it all next year by adding a player or two on the defense. Our beloved Bills are a couple of years away.

 

I'm a fan of rolling over free cap and bringing in 2-3 rookie classes with a new GM and see what you have before spending high money on 30+ guys who are short term solutions.

Beane has only had one draft to let his work out.

 

I'd rather have guys approaching 30 in 2-3 yrs than 30-32 now.

 

IMO its a better way to build a team if OBD thinks they have the QB in place.

 

We will have to see what OBD thinks.

 

I've been a fan of Gerald McCoy, terrific DT. I just don't think he's the right guy right now for Buffalo.

Good post all around

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There’s currently 66 players signed by Buffalo. If the Bills use all 10 draft picks on players then that leaves 14 more spots on the roster to be filled with players. McCoy isn’t a lock to stay on Tampa’s roster. Here’s a player I would love to have and would help alleviate another position group before the draft.

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/03/26/bruce-arians-keeps-using-the-word-if-regarding-gerald-mccoy/

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1 minute ago, Tipster19 said:

There’s currently 66 players signed by Buffalo. If the Bills use all 10 draft picks on players then that leaves 14 more spots on the roster to be filled with players. McCoy isn’t a lock to stay on Tampa’s roster. Here’s a player I would love to have and would help alleviate another position group before the draft.

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/03/26/bruce-arians-keeps-using-the-word-if-regarding-gerald-mccoy/

I’d give a 4th

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1 minute ago, Magnum Force said:

I think McCoy would be a great move.  He might not be the player he once was but still would make a positive impact here.

I like it.  And adding McCoy would really make BPA and/or a trade down easier by addressing DT position

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On 1/29/2019 at 12:14 PM, Ethan in Portland said:

If our GM is planning for 2020 or 2021 then he should be fired today. It doesn't take multiple years to develop a roster to make a playoff run. All you need is a QB. After that you should contend every year or be shown the door. This idea of a 4 or 5 year rebuild has not occurred since the 1980s. Now, you get the QB and then you contend every year. The Bills' prior GMs never found the QB. Was Carolina a 5 year rebuild. No. They got Cam and they were in a Superbowl.  Same with Denver, KC, Seattle, and now LA. 

Beane got his QB and gave up tremendous resources to get him.  He gave away tons of talent to get his cap room. Now it is time to win. 

 

I don't think a 3 year rebuild is too much. A lot depends on where you start. Besides, his first 2 draft picks (Allen and Edmunds) have a long way to go and I don't know that Allen has what it takes to bring us the Lombardi trophy. He's an incredible scrambler, but his passing ability, m'eh.

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1 hour ago, Pete said:

I like it.  And adding McCoy would really make BPA and/or a trade down easier by addressing DT position

Add McCoy, and trade our first this year and third next year for Julio.??

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1 hour ago, GreggTX said:

 

I don't think a 3 year rebuild is too much. A lot depends on where you start. Besides, his first 2 draft picks (Allen and Edmunds) have a long way to go and I don't know that Allen has what it takes to bring us the Lombardi trophy. He's an incredible scrambler, but his passing ability, m'eh.

I do believe that your sole contribution to the board is consistent bashing of JA. Does it feel good?

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