OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 20 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: The similarity to Chad is that imo, your hometown Brohios aren’t always the best people to be around because they can enable you and drag you down. Kareem’s father just got arrested for selling crack last week. It was the 35th (!) time he’s best arrested. Sometimes it’s best to be away from the family and entourage. There are a lot of stories about him going back to HS. It could be best if he’s not right back in the thick of it. I’m glad he’s done some good things in Cleveland too and wasnt an A hole to you when you shook his hand. ...Jesus, that's one helluva role model...these kids either stay in the game or end up dead in the streets......or even in the river sadly as to how James Hardy's life ended so young..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 @Alphadawg7 can you update thread title with Browns signed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 11, 2019 Author Share Posted February 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: @Alphadawg7 can you update thread title with Browns signed? Ha I forgot I started this thread haha. Done 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: Which young guy that has better skills than Hunt? My guess is a mid rounder 4th rd pick target with Shady like ability is Devin Singletary from FAU. Same school Dorsey was Ass’t AD at so OBD may pick him based on some addl insight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, freddyjj said: My guess is a mid rounder 4th rd pick target with Shady like ability is Devin Singletary from FAU. Same school Dorsey was Ass’t AD at so OBD may pick him based on some addl insight. It’s a stacked RB draft! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 4 hours ago, davspo said: Cleveland got better today. The Bills did not. If they had a chance at singing him for anything less than double what Cleveland is paying him, they made a mistake. A feature back who may be good for 10-12 games next year? Bills are all set with that already... Anyway, do the Browns now release Greg Joseph? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 23 minutes ago, freddyjj said: My guess is a mid rounder 4th rd pick target with Shady like ability is Devin Singletary from FAU. Same school Dorsey was Ass’t AD at so OBD may pick him based on some addl insight. Seems to be a consistent misconception on here. Dorsey was never assistant AD at FAU. He was with FIU. As to your other point, I’d be fine with Motor in the 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: A feature back who may be good for 10-12 games next year? Bills are all set with that already... Anyway, do the Browns now release Greg Joseph? You really think Shady still has it or is anywhere near as good as Hunt RIGHT NOW? Run blocking aside, I didn't see that burst. Hope you're correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: You really think Shady still has it or is anywhere near as good as Hunt RIGHT NOW? Run blocking aside, I didn't see that burst. Hope you're correct. I was kidding. If McCoy isn't getting the carries next year, he'll check out again. But I'm with you. He's done. Bills need a young strong back who can get his own yards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: I was kidding. If McCoy isn't getting the carries next year, he'll check out again. But I'm with you. He's done. Bills need a young strong back who can get his own yards. Didn't sleep last night. My sarc meter is way off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Just now, LSHMEAB said: Didn't sleep last night. My sarc meter is way off. To paraphrase Ahhhnold: "sleep is for babies"! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: To paraphrase Ahhhnold: "sleep is for babies"! It's not a tumaahhhh. But totally concur that the Bills are most certainly not set at the RB position. Ok, we didn't sign Hunt. That's fine. But they cannot go into next season thinking a 30 plus year old Shady is going to find the fountain of youth. Needs to be addressed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: It's not a tumaahhhh. But totally concur that the Bills are most certainly not set at the RB position. Ok, we didn't sign Hunt. That's fine. But they cannot go into next season thinking a 30 plus year old Shady is going to find the fountain of youth. Needs to be addressed. Don't need Hunt or Bell. Plenty of RB talent in the draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: Don't need Hunt or Bell. Plenty of RB talent in the draft. I have zero interest in expending the kind of resources required to get Bell. I actually think he's a TAD overrated. Very good player, but not so sure he's not at least partially a byproduct of the system. Definitely can find a RB in Rd 3/4/ or even 5. Now picking the right one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: I have zero interest in expending the kind of resources required to get Bell. I actually think he's a TAD overrated. Very good player, but not so sure he's not at least partially a byproduct of the system. Definitely can find a RB in Rd 3/4/ or even 5. Now picking the right one... Look at this past year's rookie RBs: Barkely, Chubb, Lindsay and Michel just showed up and popped into the top 10 (Michel was 15). Proof that RB big money is the second dumbest big money spent in the NFL. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 John Dorsey -- who drafted pregnant woman choker and puncher Tyreek Hill -- signed Kareem Hunt? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 hour ago, TheProcess said: Seems to be a consistent misconception on here. Dorsey was never assistant AD at FAU. He was with FIU. As to your other point, I’d be fine with Motor in the 4th. I stand corrected. Thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Cleveland is really embracing that unlovable mindset. Mayfield, Landry, and now Hunt. If Simmons falls to them in the 1st I wouldn't be surprised if he is the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 25 minutes ago, freddyjj said: I stand corrected. Thx No worries! Wasn’t trying to call you out specifically. I’m a frequent reader, and just something I’ve seen come up a few times in different threads. Lane Kiffin and Butch Davis have brought a little buzz to each program, but FAU and FIU may as well be the same on the broader college football landscape. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: The similarity to Chad is that imo, your hometown Brohios aren’t always the best people to be around because they can enable you and drag you down. Kareem’s father just got arrested for selling crack last week. It was the 35th (!) time he’s best arrested. Sometimes it’s best to be away from the family and entourage. There are a lot of stories about him going back to HS. It could be best if he’s not right back in the thick of it. I’m glad he’s done some good things in Cleveland too and wasnt an A hole to you when you shook his hand. I don't know Kareem but my understanding is he has no relationship with his father, and dad was a big reason they left Elyria. Kareem may have problems being a violent drunk but he is not an ahole. South hasn't had a good team in several years, so when Hunt showed up I spent plenty of time observing him. Quiet, but very open body language and quick to smile for the kids and anyone he talked with. Intense competitor but also more laid back than anything. Also stayed the entire game when he probably should have left at halftime. He's not some angry attitude guy, in fact just the opposite. Whoever the tweeter is who claims Hunt had violence problems here at South HS, well I'll look into it but I've never heard anything of the sort here. Most talk of him being, quiet, humble and respectful. Obviously he's got some serious problems to resolve but the amount of blind judgement here is just astounding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Call_Of_Ktulu Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 I think Shady is on his last leg, he has obviously lost a step and the elusiveness has taken a hit as well. Hunt would've been the perfect type of RB to pair with a big mobile QB like Allen. With a upgraded O-Line I could easily see Hunt rushing for 1,200 and 10 TD's even with a two game suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, GaryPinC said: I don't know Kareem but my understanding is he has no relationship with his father, and dad was a big reason they left Elyria. Kareem may have problems being a violent drunk but he is not an ahole. South hasn't had a good team in several years, so when Hunt showed up I spent plenty of time observing him. Quiet, but very open body language and quick to smile for the kids and anyone he talked with. Intense competitor but also more laid back than anything. Also stayed the entire game when he probably should have left at halftime. He's not some angry attitude guy, in fact just the opposite. Whoever the tweeter is who claims Hunt had violence problems here at South HS, well I'll look into it but I've never heard anything of the sort here. Most talk of him being, quiet, humble and respectful. Obviously he's got some serious problems to resolve but the amount of blind judgement here is just astounding. Don’t get me wrong. I hope he rehabs. Violent and drunk is no way to go through life. I wish him luck, but I just feel he went to the one place that I don’t think will be able to keep him focused. No veteran leadership, home town trouble, negative influences abound. He also will be behind the 8 ball coming off a year not playing football and a suspension, and will need to compete for carries in a backfield that is already established . Just think he has an uphill battle. But it may have been his only option. Edited February 12, 2019 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Sometimes I wish I weren't so hopelessly addicted to football and the Buffalo Bills, because the NFL is gross, and its conduct is often reprehensible. The league's actions indicate again and again that they're perfectly fine with domestic abuse and violence. Just don't smoke marijuana or peacefully protest against police violence, by golly! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 only in the NFL can you not get invited to the combine but resign to another team. The NFL really doesn't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Logic said: Sometimes I wish I weren't so hopelessly addicted to football and the Buffalo Bills, because the NFL is gross, and its conduct is often reprehensible. The league's actions indicate again and again that they're perfectly fine with domestic abuse and violence. Just don't smoke marijuana or peacefully protest against police violence, by golly! And the fact that the game destroys the brains and bodies of those who play it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Technically he still has to apply for reinstatement from Roger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Logic said: Sometimes I wish I weren't so hopelessly addicted to football and the Buffalo Bills, because the NFL is gross, and its conduct is often reprehensible. The league's actions indicate again and again that they're perfectly fine with domestic abuse and violence. Just don't smoke marijuana or peacefully protest against police violence, by golly! I just don't understand this. Domestic Violence is a serious offense. It's a misdemeanor, but it's a serious offense. There are also degrees of offense. For instance, Ray Rice mercilessly beat a woman. This does not rise to that level. Should someone be banished for life from their profession for this offense? I say no. I say a first time offender is suspended 6-8 games, but banishment is really excessive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeTeam Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Meh, I could care less about this signing. I don't want players that have ***** character on this team period. Give me players who want to be here and are team first. This organisation is on the right path, a signing like this would not be sticking to the plan. Onwards and upwards. Go Bills! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 hour ago, GaryPinC said: I don't know Kareem but my understanding is he has no relationship with his father, and dad was a big reason they left Elyria. Kareem may have problems being a violent drunk but he is not an ahole. South hasn't had a good team in several years, so when Hunt showed up I spent plenty of time observing him. Quiet, but very open body language and quick to smile for the kids and anyone he talked with. Intense competitor but also more laid back than anything. Also stayed the entire game when he probably should have left at halftime. He's not some angry attitude guy, in fact just the opposite. Whoever the tweeter is who claims Hunt had violence problems here at South HS, well I'll look into it but I've never heard anything of the sort here. Most talk of him being, quiet, humble and respectful. Obviously he's got some serious problems to resolve but the amount of blind judgement here is just astounding. I'm sure there are many reasons that Hunt is a scumbag. But the bottom line is that he's a scumbag. He's not a good person. That's not blind judgment. He's a dangerous, violent person who comes from a family of violent scumbags. This dude is no good. Woman beating cowardly scumbag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 22 minutes ago, Gugny said: I'm sure there are many reasons that Hunt is a scumbag. But the bottom line is that he's a scumbag. He's not a good person. That's not blind judgment. He's a dangerous, violent person who comes from a family of violent scumbags. This dude is no good. Woman beating cowardly scumbag. Not even the Bengals would sign him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Gugny said: I'm sure there are many reasons that Hunt is a scumbag. But the bottom line is that he's a scumbag. He's not a good person. That's not blind judgment. He's a dangerous, violent person who comes from a family of violent scumbags. This dude is no good. Woman beating cowardly scumbag. It is blind judgement on your part, and I find it pathetic. I'm not absolving him in any way, simply trying to lend perspective beyond press reports. I've seen him do good things, show people kindness and respect, including myself. Anyone who watches the entire video with any kind of rationality realizes Hunt had ample opportunity to seriously harm her and did not. What he did was borne out of frustration and disrespect. Absolutely wrong, but not in the realm of your social-media-style panic wh*re condemnations. Edited February 12, 2019 by GaryPinC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 6 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Don’t get me wrong. I hope he rehabs. Violent and drunk is no way to go through life. I wish him luck, but I just feel he went to the one place that I don’t think will be able to keep him focused. No veteran leadership, home town trouble, negative influences abound. He also will be behind the 8 ball coming off a year not playing football and a suspension, and will need to compete for carries in a backfield that is already established . Just think he has an uphill battle. But it may have been his only option. I get you and respect your opinions, all great points that may derail Hunt. But it's hard to say for sure. I don't know Chad Kelly, but my impression is that he's a self-centered, entitled punk and that is completely opposite to how Kareem Hunt carries himself and behaves while he is around Willoughby. I feel your equating Hunt to Kelly is completely unfair, and at the crux of my responses to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 2 hours ago, GaryPinC said: It is blind judgement on your part, and I find it pathetic. I'm not absolving him in any way, simply trying to lend perspective beyond press reports. I've seen him do good things, show people kindness and respect, including myself. Anyone who watches the entire video with any kind of rationality realizes Hunt had ample opportunity to seriously harm her and did not. What he did was borne out of frustration and disrespect. Absolutely wrong, but not in the realm of your social-media-style panic wh*re condemnations. Now that I had a chance to sleep on it, you're right. I need to not only apologize to Kareem Hunt for my blind judgment ... I need to THANK HIM for showing restraint and not taking the "ample opportunity to seriously harm her." He's a true humanitarian. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 8 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Given that Bob Quinn is a Belichick disciple and that organisation has given more second chances than most, Kareem really must be a piece of work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 2 hours ago, GaryPinC said: I get you and respect your opinions, all great points that may derail Hunt. But it's hard to say for sure. I don't know Chad Kelly, but my impression is that he's a self-centered, entitled punk and that is completely opposite to how Kareem Hunt carries himself and behaves while he is around Willoughby. I feel your equating Hunt to Kelly is completely unfair, and at the crux of my responses to you. I wasn’t equating their backgrounds or personalities. I was comparing them as two examples of how I don’t think it’s the best idea to be playing in their hometowns - for various reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davspo Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Just listen to Mary Kay on NFL radio, (Browns beat reporter), she said that Hunt's father was arrested recently on drug trafficking charges. Not sure how relevant it is, but questioning the support system he has in Cleveland with his family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, davspo said: Just listen to Mary Kay on NFL radio, (Browns beat reporter), she said that Hunt's father was arrested recently on drug trafficking charges. Not sure how relevant it is, but questioning the support system he has in Cleveland with his family. He’s been arrested 35 times. He was caught selling crack at a days inn. It’s sad, but I don’t think he’s around him anymore. That said his dad has no source of income per the recent arrest report so not sure if he tries to get money from his son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 One less distraction for training camp zero would be ideal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davspo Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 After looking at the video again, it just seems that he is being disproportionately punished. Many have done much worse- see Ray Lewis. Just my two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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