3rdnlng Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 2 hours ago, /dev/null said: he could always sell it to meadazon and rebrand it the Meadington Post Naw, he'd have to name it the AARP Post and publish once a month in order to not interfere with his bocce schedule. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 16 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: CNN and WaPo would be wise to make these suits go away. The money lost in a settlement is not nearly as significant as getting much of their libel protection overturned by the Supreme Court. I highly doubt they're going to successfully argue that Sandmann is a "public figure" at 16, because they made him one by blasting his face all over media to trash him. They run a significant risk of having the entire 'public figure' exception overhauled or done away with, if they litigate the matter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Just now, Koko78 said: CNN and WaPo would be wise to make these suits go away. The money lost in a settlement is not nearly as significant as getting much of their libel protection overturned by the Supreme Court. I highly doubt they're going to successfully argue that Sandmann is a "public figure" at 16, because they made him one by blasting his face all over media to trash him. They run a significant risk of having the entire 'public figure' exception overhauled or done away with, if they litigate the matter. I've been reading in a few places that NYT vs Sullivan may not be in favor with the current Supremes. Your thoughts on the matter would be appreciated. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: I've been reading in a few places that NYT vs Sullivan may not be in favor with the current Supremes. Your thoughts on the matter would be appreciated. ? I think that if it goes to the Supreme Court, there is a significant chance that the decision is modified , with less of a chance that it would be overturned. I don't believe they would completely do away with the ruling, as public figures should have a heightened standard for libel. Proving actual malice is likely going to be replaced by something lesser, and I think they will clarify what constitutes a public figure/limited purpose public figure. WaPo and CNN are sure to claim that Sandmann was a 'limited purpose public figure', for purposes of the libel suit. Media companies have had success in arguing that the mere fact that they published something about an individual made him a public figure, triggering the 'actual malice' standard of proof, which is damn near impossible to prove. I don't see the Supreme Court continuing to allow the media to claim that someone is famous because they made them famous by running a story that was false. Especially in the age of social media and every idiot with a twitter account pretending they're a journalist. As for actual malice, as I said it is almost impossible to prove. To prevail at trial, you have to put evidence on that the defendants acted "with knowledge that it was false or with reckless disregard of whether it was false or not." Unless you can come up with a memo/email/admission from the defendant where they say they knew a story is false and ran it anyhow, you're not really ever going to prove what they knew or didn't know. I cannot say what they would modify the standard to be; perhaps something closer to the English model of defamation. I could see them going with some sort of bifurcated standard of proof, where the Plaintiff has to first show that the information was false, with the burden then shifting to the Defendant to show that they had reasonable cause to believe it may have been true. Either way, I don't expect that it will be easy to win a libel suit, but I think they will make it far less impossible than it is now. Edited March 10, 2019 by Koko78 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 You leftists have lost your freaking minds. Are you not aware how stupid you all look when you do this stuff? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 17 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: You leftists have lost your freaking minds. Are you not aware how stupid you all look when you do this stuff? It's a hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Six more years 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 3 hours ago, LABillzFan said: You leftists have lost your freaking minds. Are you not aware how stupid you all look when you do this stuff? And, this is just crap you see in the news. Imagine what all is really happening. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 I happen to be in Schenectady and last night at dinner in a public restaurant, I saw a sixty something ragged looking old guy who was wearing a sweatshirt with a silkscreened image of a naked woman with Trump’s head sitting on Vlad’s lap. People are insane. Insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 34 minutes ago, Nanker said: I happen to be in Schenectady and last night at dinner in a public restaurant, I saw a sixty something ragged looking old guy who was wearing a sweatshirt with a silkscreened image of a naked woman with Trump’s head sitting on Vlad’s lap. People are insane. Insane. But I guess it's ok to slap an old man wearing a red cap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 3 hours ago, Nanker said: I happen to be in Schenectady and last night at dinner in a public restaurant, I saw a sixty something ragged looking old guy who was wearing a sweatshirt with a silkscreened image of a naked woman with Trump’s head sitting on Vlad’s lap. People are insane. Insane. even with Facebook to display their quirks they still insist on going public with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 14 hours ago, Paulus said: And, this is just crap you see in the news. Imagine what all is really happening. I wouldn't mind putting a small Trump logo on the back window of my truck. I don't dare though. Not in Cali. I see Bernie, Obama and Hillary bumper stickers all over and I don't feel compelled to damage their car or confront them. The left has no problem doing that though. I guess that's just the way it is when dealing with a low IQ people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Dante said: I wouldn't mind putting a small Trump logo on the back window of my truck. I don't dare though. Not in Cali. I see Bernie, Obama and Hillary bumper stickers all over and I don't feel compelled to damage their car or confront them. The left has no problem doing that though. I guess that's just the way it is when dealing with a low IQ people. Your car would get keyed for sure and it’d be your fault too. At least that’s what the person who would let your car would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Tibs changed the title to something that makes no sense (shocking). And people wonder why so many have blocked him. And now the question is - to keep contributing to this thread about all the Covington Kids' lawsuits, or make a new thread? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Tibs changed the title to something that makes no sense (shocking). And people wonder why so many have blocked him. And now the question is - to keep contributing to this thread about all the Covington Kids' lawsuits, or make a new thread? Everyone who is shocked that Gator did something dishonest should now put on your shocked face! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Tibs after changing this thread title... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 11, 2019 Author Share Posted March 11, 2019 On 2/1/2019 at 11:43 AM, The_Dude said: We should keep this thread alive! I promise to change the title again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 10 minutes ago, Tiberius said: We should keep this thread alive! I promise to change the title again! Change it back real soon or I'll start a thread to replace this one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Dante said: I wouldn't mind putting a small Trump logo on the back window of my truck. I don't dare though. Not in Cali. I see Bernie, Obama and Hillary bumper stickers all over and I don't feel compelled to damage their car or confront them. The left has no problem doing that though. I guess that's just the way it is when dealing with a low IQ people. I was always concerned that someone would do something to my house when I put up our American flag during Holidays when I live in the Bay Area. Now that I'm back down on the other side of the Orange Curtain we have out flag out everyday. Like most of our neighbors. I also leave my windows open where as up there I slept with my pistol withing reach. I agree with Tibs. We should keep this thread alive. As a reminder of how much of a juvenile ass he is. Oh wait. We don't need a thread for that. Edited March 11, 2019 by Chef Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 29 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: I was always concerned that someone would do something to my house when I put up our American flag during Holidays when I live in the Bay Area. Now that I'm back down on the other side of the Orange Curtain we have out flag out everyday. Like most of our neighbors. I also leave my windows open where as up there I slept with my pistol withing reach. I agree with Tibs. We should keep this thread alive. As a reminder of how much of a juvenile ass he is. Oh wait. We don't need a thread for that. 4 Do that now. Wife isn't crazy about it. Did you move down there because of the people here or for work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Dante said: Did you move down there because of the people here or for work? Yes to both. Was planing on moving to Palm Springs to wind down my work and retire. That was because I had it with the Bay Area, had a boatload of equity in 5 short years. And then a golden opportunity came up to run our OC regional center where I started 18 years ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Trump the Divider: During his acceptance speech for the 2020 GOP nod, he looks into the camera and says "if you don't like this country, then there's the door, GTFO!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Yes to both. Was planing on moving to Palm Springs to wind down my work and retire. That was because I had it with the Bay Area, had a boatload of equity in 5 short years. And then a golden opportunity came up to run our OC regional center where I started 18 years ago. Make the decision a lot easier if you have had it with the area I guess. Our neighborhood is pretty good as far as being courteous. No one here would do anything dumb but I'm pretty sure 60% would not like a Trump sticker on my vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 47 minutes ago, Dante said: Make the decision a lot easier if you have had it with the area I guess. Our neighborhood is pretty good as far as being courteous. No one here would do anything dumb but I'm pretty sure 60% would not like a Trump sticker on my vehicle. Danville ain't Oakland. LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said: Change it back real soon or I'll start a thread to replace this one. I don't think he's gonna budge. If you start a new one for the Covington kids, I'll bring over all my links ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Gal said: I don't think he's gonna budge. If you start a new one for the Covington kids, I'll bring over all my links ? Of course not. He thinks he's winning...something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 9 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Of course not. He thinks he's winning...something. This is one of the few types of instances I wish Darrin would moderate heavily. Let the moron say what he pleases, but don’t give anyone the leeway to do what he’s done, or to delete threads when they don’t go their way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Tick Tock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albwan Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Wow...talk about projecting much. Division literally defines the democrat party. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 42 minutes ago, Albwan said: Wow...talk about projecting much. Division literally defines the democrat party. This was a thread about the Covington kids. The OP just changed the title today because he'sashithead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 This is why we shouldn't ever respond to gatorman's threads. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Albwan said: Wow...talk about projecting much. Division literally defines the democrat party. From Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factions_in_the_Democratic_Party_(United_States) Contents 1Ideological wings 1.1Centrist wing 1.2Conservative wing 1.3Liberal wing 1.4Libertarian wing 1.5Progressive wing 1.6Social democratic and democratic socialist wings 2Voter base 2.1African Americans 2.1.118–29 year old African Americans 2.1.230–44 year old African Americans 2.1.345–64 year old African Americans 2.1.4Over 65 years old African Americans 2.2Age 2.2.118–29 year old Americans 2.2.230–44 year old Americans 2.3Asian Americans 2.4Christian left 2.5Education 2.5.1Non-high school graduates 2.5.2Postgraduate education 2.6Hispanic Americans 2.7Income 2.7.1Families with income that is less than $30,000 2.7.2Families with income that is between $30,000–49,999 2.8Irreligious Americans 2.8.1Atheist and agnostic Americans 2.9Jewish Americans 2.10Labor 2.11LGBT Americans 2.12Liberals 2.13Marital status 2.13.1Unmarried 2.14Moderates 2.15Muslim Americans 2.16Native Americans 2.17Region 2.17.1Northeast 2.17.2West 2.18Registered Democrats 2.19Women 2.20Working class Point being, they have even divided themselves into a bunch of different factions that are getting jealous of each other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 14, 2019 Author Share Posted March 14, 2019 Zero. That the amount of money these kids will win in court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: Zero. That the amount of money these kids will win in court. Partially correct. WaPo and CNN will offer terms to settle out of court Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Zero. That the amount of money these kids will win in court. Oh I disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 On 3/11/2019 at 2:47 PM, LBSeeBallLBGetBall said: Tibs after changing this thread title... I don't think the sticky stuff he's covered in is red 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, GG said: I don't think the sticky stuff he's covered in is red 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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