RochesterRob Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You are an ignorant racist. You are trying to make yourself look like a winner by associating yourself with the success of European society, something you had nothing to do with. Heck, ignorant Jack asses like you are the types that held society back, you would of been first in line burning books at the bonfire of the vanities and calling for Galileo to be arrested. You actually think an accurate calender is of little importance? It's not so accurate to prevent a naive farmer from planting a crop that might be ruined by frost. Farmers wait as much for a warming trend in the spring as they do for an arbitrary date on the calendar to plant crops. Those who have lived in WNY and have gardened for many years would not plant sweet corn on May 10 even if that is recognized as typically the last day for a spring frost if the outdoor temperature is only 45 degrees at 1PM and had been pretty much been the trend for that spring. That gardener would make a planting decision on future predictions that temps would rise into the 60's and stay there. This for making sure the soil will warm to germinate a seed as well as support an emerged plant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: They were wrong. It's incontrovertible now. Or are you sticking to your original position like a good little sycophant? Gator knows that those 'condemnations' that he clings to were the initial ones made before the full picture came out. But he has nothing else. The whole event was false..................and he fell for it. . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: They were wrong. It's incontrovertible now. Or are you sticking to your oringal position like a good little sycophant? If you say so... But you have to agree with me that all this racist talk is ignorant, right? All this whites are superior nonsense. Or anyone is superior, just stupid. 4 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: It's not so accurate to prevent a naive farmer from planting a crop that might be ruined by frost. Farmers wait as much for a warming trend in the spring as they do for an arbitrary date on the calendar to plant crops. Those who have lived in WNY and have gardened for many years would not plant sweet corn on May 10 even if that is recognized as typically the last day for a spring frost if the outdoor temperature is only 45 degrees at 1PM and had been pretty much been the trend for that spring. That gardener would make a planting decision on future predictions that temps would rise into the 60's and stay there. This for making sure the soil will warm to germinate a seed as well as support an emerged plant. But the calender is a very important tool nonetheless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 43 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Until the crusaders murdered the city in 1204. Literally! Sadly they stopped there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, B-Man said: Gator knows that those 'condemnations' that he clings to were the initial ones made before the full picture came out. But he has nothing else. The whole event was false..................and he fell for it. . In the right wing echo chamber I'm sure. Just now, Gary M said: Sadly they stopped there! Well, they didn't stop, they were stopped and beaten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, Tiberius said: And all the condemnations from Catholics schools, GOP politicians and people all across the political spectrum were wrong too, I suppose. Lol, the right wing echo chamber sure has its own reality. "they acted stupidly" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 22 minutes ago, row_33 said: you find someone who can talk to you and this is what you do to them? okay, that door is closing.... Lol, did I say something offensive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Apologies Roll In For Catholic School Protesters As Fuller Picture Of Events Emerges. The Truth about the Lincoln Memorial Incident by Taylor Day Original Article The Media Wildly Mischaracterized That Video of Covington Catholic Students Confronting a Native American Veteran. A bogus story about Trump supporters. Who could imagine such a thing? THEY TOLD ME IF TRUMP WERE ELECTED WE’D SEE OPEN RELIGIOUS BIGOTRY IN WASHINGTON. AND THEY WERE RIGHT!Mazie Hirono can’t stop talking about Catholics. UPDATE: #JOURNALISM: This is all a spoiling attack aimed at keeping Amy Coney Barrett off the Supreme Court. I’m not sure, though, that open displays of anti-Catholic bigotry are such a wise tactic outside the SJW bubble. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 Full fake news press by Hotair, Daileycaller and the rest of the East German style media. Where is Baghdad Bob when we need him?? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 22 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You are an ignorant racist. You are trying to make yourself look like a winner by associating yourself with the success of European society, something you had nothing to do with. Heck, ignorant Jack asses like you are the types that held society back, you would of been first in line burning books at the bonfire of the vanities and calling for Galileo to be arrested. You wrote all that just to let people know you know who Galileo is. ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 The comments from the people still trying to justify their hatred for the kids is amazing. Most refuse to watch the whole video, saying they don't need to see the whole thing to know they're right. Other's try to launch "what-if" scenarios on how the kids would have acted if not "restrained" by all the media coverage. Pathetic. And no one is mentioning why an ADULT would go up to a TEENAGER and beat a drum in his Face. That can be considered assaulting a minor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swill Merchant Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 22 minutes ago, Tiberius said: And all the condemnations from Catholics schools, GOP politicians and people all across the political spectrum were wrong too, I suppose. Lol, the right wing echo chamber sure has its own reality. Your inability to acknowledge your error is telling. When one has the courage to admit his mistakes he earns some level of respect, as he is communicating a willingness to apply self criticism and a commitment to the truth. He who is unwilling to do so, in the face of overwhelming evidence of his error, shows only that he lacks both character & credibility. That this involves the nationwide demonization & doxxing of an innocent teenager makes yours all the more contemptible. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 minute ago, unbillievable said: The comments from the people still trying to justify their hatred for the kids is amazing. Most refuse to watch the whole video, saying they don't need to see the whole thing to know they're right. Other's try to launch "what-if" scenarios on how the kids would have acted if not "restrained" by all the media coverage. Pathetic. And no one is mentioning why an ADULT would go up to a TEENAGER and beat a drum in his Face. That can be considered assaulting a minor. Because the left is racist and the kid is white and wearing a MAGA hat which is translated into liberal as ‘WHITE POWER.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, Tiberius said: If you say so... But you have to agree with me that all this racist talk is ignorant, right? All this whites are superior nonsense. Or anyone is superior, just stupid. But the calender is a very important tool nonetheless The Julian Calendar became important with the rise of international trade a few hundred years ago as a way to assign when deliveries were to be made and debts collected. To go further many great societies were able to plant crops and flourish when it came to nutrition w/o a Julian Calendar. The Chinese, Japanese, Indians, native Latin American cultures to name a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, unbillievable said: ... Most refuse to watch the whole video, saying they don't need to see the whole thing to know they're right... i agree to an extent. the majority of the full length video is of the BHI. subjecting oneself to that vitriol is tantamount to self torture. i can see skipping through it to get to the relevant portions and back tracking if one may have traversed a bit too far to get the complete picture. outside of that, listening to BHI inciting is ear bleed inducing. Edited January 21, 2019 by Foxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: The Julian Calendar became important with the rise of international trade a few hundred years ago as a way to assign when deliveries were to be made and debts collected. To go further many great societies were able to plant crops and flourish when it came to nutrition w/o a Julian Calendar. The Chinese, Japanese, Indians, native Latin American cultures to name a few. Nobody will more readily admit the importance of agriculture to history than I. But it’s sooo boring. Are we going to get into the 3 field system, and the advancements from iron technology? I kid, I kid. But seriously, agricultural history is almost as boring as women’s history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Just now, The_Dude said: Nobody will more readily admit the importance of agriculture to history than I. But it’s sooo boring. Are we going to get into the 3 field system, and the advancements from iron technology? I kid, I kid. But seriously, agricultural history is almost as boring as women’s history. you just can't help being an asshat with every position, can you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 19 minutes ago, B-Man said: Apologies Roll In For Catholic School Protesters As Fuller Picture Of Events Emerges. The Truth about the Lincoln Memorial Incident by Taylor Day Original Article The Media Wildly Mischaracterized That Video of Covington Catholic Students Confronting a Native American Veteran. A bogus story about Trump supporters. Who could imagine such a thing? THEY TOLD ME IF TRUMP WERE ELECTED WE’D SEE OPEN RELIGIOUS BIGOTRY IN WASHINGTON. AND THEY WERE RIGHT!Mazie Hirono can’t stop talking about Catholics. UPDATE: #JOURNALISM: This is all a spoiling attack aimed at keeping Amy Coney Barrett off the Supreme Court. I’m not sure, though, that open displays of anti-Catholic bigotry are such a wise tactic outside the SJW bubble. . I had the same thought when I saw the attack on Catholic school rhetoric. Seems like the old judgement of Catholics, which goes in with all the recent news about all the priests being wrapped up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Foxx said: you just can't help being an asshat with every position, can you? Im sorry, you’re right. I shouldn’t have compared agricultural and women’s history. We can learn from agricultural history, and that makes it useful. Id like to apologize to agriculture for my unfair and out of line comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, The_Dude said: Nobody will more readily admit the importance of agriculture to history than I. But it’s sooo boring. Are we going to get into the 3 field system, and the advancements from iron technology? I kid, I kid. But seriously, agricultural history is almost as boring as women’s history. It would help bring along the likes of some to provide enlightenment to them. Let's discuss the monsoon season in southern and southeastern Asia and how it impacts agriculture there while we are at it. Edited January 21, 2019 by RochesterRob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) I guess this can go here just as well as in any of the other threads on the fake news du juor. Why Do People Fall For Fake News The main camps are divided between motivated reasoning vs. intellectual laziness. This cited study seems to highlight what might be going on here (and with buzzfeed). Quote The implications here are profound: Reasoning can exacerbate the problem, not provide the solution, when it comes to partisan disputes over facts. Further evidence cited in support of this of argument comes from a 2010 study by the political scientists Brendan Nyhan and Jason Reifler, who found that appending corrections to misleading claims in news articles can sometimes backfire: Not only did corrections fail to reduce misperceptions, but they also sometimes increased them. It seemed as if people who were ideologically inclined to believe a given falsehood worked so hard to come up with reasons that the correction was wrong that they came to believe the falsehood even more strongly. Edited January 21, 2019 by BillsFanNC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 36 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Full fake news press by Hotair, Daileycaller and the rest of the East German style media. Where is Baghdad Bob when we need him?? Lol Yeah. Reason. Real right wing rag there. You're clinging to a debunked narrative. You'd gain a lot more respect than you currently have if you (for once) formed your own opinion based on evidence rather than partisan talking points. 20 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: Tibs didn't get the memo Everyone else is deleting their comments (like cowards). Tibs is the Buzzfeed of PPP, doubling down on a debunked story because his feelz and ego won't allow him to admit he rushed to judgment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 45 minutes ago, B-Man said: This is all a spoiling attack aimed at keeping Amy Coney Barrett off the Supreme Court. I’m not sure, though, that open displays of anti-Catholic bigotry are such a wise tactic outside the SJW bubble. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Yeah. Reason. Real right wing rag there. You're clinging to a debunked narrative. You'd gain a lot more respect than you currently have if you (for once) formed your own opinion based on evidence rather than partisan talking points. I heard somewhere that Phillips claimed he was trying to get between the kids and Black Israelites in order to diffuse the situation. He speak with forked tongue. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Just now, 3rdnlng said: I heard somewhere that Phillips claimed he was trying to get between the kids and Black Israelites in order to diffuse the situation. He speak with forked tongue. He's a political operative. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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leh-nerd skin-erd Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 41 minutes ago, unbillievable said: The comments from the people still trying to justify their hatred for the kids is amazing. Most refuse to watch the whole video, saying they don't need to see the whole thing to know they're right. Other's try to launch "what-if" scenarios on how the kids would have acted if not "restrained" by all the media coverage. Pathetic. And no one is mentioning why an ADULT would go up to a TEENAGER and beat a drum in his Face. That can be considered assaulting a minor. I have come to realize it's an "us v. them" world. Doesn't mean it's a fight for survival, or that revolutionaries will be kicking in my front door...but the folks looking to push this ridiculous issue offer nothing of value to me. I am considering a handgun purchase for the first time in my life. This kid with the dopey kid grin staring at this experienced, calculating activist showed restraint not all that common at his age. For that, death threats. The coverage is disgraceful. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 minute ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I have come to realize it's an "us v. them" world. Doesn't mean it's a fight for survival, or that revolutionaries will be kicking in my front door...but the folks looking to push this ridiculous issue offer nothing of value to me. I am considering a handgun purchase for the first time in my life. This kid with the dopey kid grin staring at this experienced, calculating activist showed restraint not all that common at his age. For that, death threats. The coverage is disgraceful. Go for a carbine. Handguns are scatter shot after 30 meters in terms of accuracy. Handguns are very hard to be accurate with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGpzGu9Yp6Y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 minute ago, The_Dude said: Go for a carbine. Handguns are scatter shot after 30 meters in terms of accuracy. Handguns are very hard to be accurate with. One of my main concerns is shooting myself in the thigh while cleaning or handling the damn thing. "Carbine" sounds like I'm unlikely to survive when I accidentally push the junk mail into the teapot into the carbine which falls on the floor and the ensuing gun fire separates my right leg from my body. I'm not an anti-gun guy, but was always in the not-for-me camp. I do own a machete though, and have yet to put my eye out. I'm getting there. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 5 hours ago, The_Dude said: Thats definitley incorrect. Most likely you never served based based on your statement. A very small mall portion of the military is designed to fight. Most people who went to Nam never pulled a trigger because they served in support roles; mechanics, cooks, logistics, and so on. Many people who went to Nam never went into the jungle. As an Iraq vet I’ll say this is doubly true of Iraq. We called these people “pogs” or “fobbits.” They are disgusting creatures who will ALWAYS let you know they were deployed but they didn’t do fight club things while there. You are definitely incorrect. I understand not all that are in a theater are carrying a rifle and seeing combat. I did serve in the USMC. You have your opinion, I have mine. Thanks for your service. 5 hours ago, 3rdnlng said: You're beating the wrong drum. While our veterans, and especially war zone veterans, deserve our respect for their time "in country" they do not get a pass for acting like a petulant child to further an agenda that they can't even convey. Did I say they did? Please quote me if I did. I usually "beat" my Yamaha drum kit,. I has a lot of drums :). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: One of my main concerns is shooting myself in the thigh while cleaning or handling the damn thing. "Carbine" sounds like I'm unlikely to survive when I accidentally push the junk mail into the teapot into the carbine which falls on the floor and the ensuing gun fire separates my right leg from my body. I'm not an anti-gun guy, but was always in the not-for-me camp. I do own a machete though, and have yet to put my eye out. I'm getting there. Honestly, it just takes experience. I stick to AR platforms because I can literally disassemble and reassemble one blindfolded. Shooting yourself while cleaning can happen, especially with Glocks. But I have a rule — I unload all guns before entering my home. Just like I did in Iraq. When you get back to the base you clear your gun in a clearing pit. I do the same thing today. 3 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: You are definitely incorrect. I understand not all that are in a theater are carrying a rifle and seeing combat. I did serve in the USMC. You have your opinion, I have mine. Thanks for your service. Im definitley right. The USMC is very small and VERY different from the normal military. For example, a marine mechanic engaging the enemy isn’t extraordinary, however his army counterpart is. I love the Marines. I think all branches should emulate the Marine mantra that everybody’s a rifleman first. The Marines HAVE to do that because they’re so small numerically. In the army, unless you’re a combat guy, you’re really not in any danger. There are of course many exceptions to that, ie the commo guy serving in an infantry company and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, The_Dude said: Honestly, it just takes experience. I stick to AR platforms because I can literally disassemble and reassemble one blindfolded. Shooting yourself while cleaning can happen, especially with Glocks. But I have a rule — I unload all guns before entering my home. Just like I did in Iraq. When you get back to the base you clear your gun in a clearing pit. I do the same thing today. Im definitley right. The USMC is very small and VERY different from the normal military. For example, a marine mechanic engaging the enemy isn’t extraordinary, however his army counterpart is. I love the Marines. I think all branches should emulate the Marine mantra that everybody’s a rifleman first. The Marines HAVE to do that because they’re so small numerically. In the army, unless you’re a combat guy, you’re really not in any danger. There are of course many exceptions to that, ie the commo guy serving in an infantry company and so on. I'm definitely right. I hear what you're saying, but most of the guys in Viet Nam either HAD to go or were going to jail or had to run off to Canada or something. I think that makes it a little different than Iraq and Operation Enduring Freedom or whatever that was in 1991. Afganistan ain't no picnic either. Edited January 21, 2019 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 ASS-COVERING WELL UNDERWAY: Journalists and Celebs Rush to Delete Tweets Slamming MAGA-Hat Kids. New York Times opinion writer Kara Swisher, for instance, deleted one tweet saying she was thinking of “finding every one of these ***** kids and giving them a very large piece of my mind,” and other tweets throwing slurs like “Nazi” and “nationalist.” ABC chief political correspondent Scott Thurman deleted a tweet alleging students in MAGA hats were “mocking” and “taunting” a Native American in front of the Lincoln Memorial in D.C., asking in a new tweet if the new video changed minds about the kids. Anti-Trump activist Ed Krassenstein deleted a neutral tweet contemplating the intentions of Nick Sandmann, the young MAGA student accused of smirking at a Native American. His brother, Brian Krassenstein, deleted a tweet calling the students “bigoted.” The New Republic‘s Jeet Heer deleted a tweet arguing the MAGA hat-wearing teens were “racist.” CNN’s Bakari Sellers deleted a tweet suggesting the kids should be “punched in the face.” You’d like to think that people learned a lesson here, but I’m no longer that optimistic. The teens showed a lot more control in the face of actual provocation than these allegedly sensible and responsible media adults showed in the face of a bogus news report. Now, why oh WHY would he do that?! Nathan Phillips’ Covington story keeps changing from outlet to outlet As they say, punch back twice as hard. ..What, CNN is backtracking ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: In the right wing echo chamber I'm sure. Stop and apologize for being dumb. Jake Tapper sold you out. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 20 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: You are definitely incorrect. I understand not all that are in a theater are carrying a rifle and seeing combat. I did serve in the USMC. You have your opinion, I have mine. Thanks for your service. Did I say they did? Please quote me if I did. I usually "beat" my Yamaha drum kit,. I has a lot of drums :). Phillips doesn't deserve respect just because he was in the service. I know a lot of people that I was in the service with that didn't deserve any either. Phillips started out to have a confrontation with the kids. They in turn used the ultimate in self control to resist any confrontation. Phillips not only wanted a confrontation but lied about it afterwards. The video proves that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Foxx said: here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGpzGu9Yp6Y This man got money to be a Damian Marley video ? Not digging the song. The Damian Marley/Nas album was pretty hot though Anyone from the news gonna call out the racist “black Israelites” ? Yelling at kids is what they do ? Edited January 21, 2019 by Teddy KGB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Stop and apologize for being dumb. Jake Tapper sold you out. The kid stepped in to pray?? Ok! All those kids mocking Native Americans? Ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: The kid stepped in to pray?? Ok! All those kids mocking Native Americans? Ok Your issue with them is that they’re white. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, The_Dude said: Your issue with them is that they’re white. No, just that they are punks. Pro-Life, lol. That's really the funny part. Pretending to care about something. Do they care that children are being separated at the boarder? Do they care that people are being pro-life by running away from dangerous situations and seeking asylum? Wouldn't that be pro-life, you know, saving lives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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