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9 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said:

What's your point?

For some of those workers...that might be their only got meal of the day.

La Nova is my favorite. 

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My snoring just woke somebody up!!! My wife is just now getting back to the airport, so it might have been ME! I guess she’’s still in the other bedroom until this cold goes away......or until our next lifetime. 

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1 hour ago, matter2003 said:

Haha, I didn't have to shovel, I got the tickets as a Christmas present...yeah much better than the Jacksonville-Bills playoff game I was at a few years later where the stadium sat stunned as we first lost Kelly and then the game. 

 

Nobody knew it when it happened but we were all witnesses to the last game Kelly ever played.

As I saw Kelly being taken away on the cart, I said 'he's not coming back'. 'Ever'. The 'last play' was ruled a fumble. I thought Kelly was down by contact. The snow was flying horizontal in my face, as I made my way back to the parking lot. It was one of those almost tragic events where you remember every detail.. :-(

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21 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said:

Too bad I can't take part as a Canadian.

 

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46 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said:

As I saw Kelly being taken away on the cart, I said 'he's not coming back'. 'Ever'. The 'last play' was ruled a fumble. I thought Kelly was down by contact. The snow was flying horizontal in my face, as I made my way back to the parking lot. It was one of those almost tragic events where you remember every detail.. 😞

I was at that game as well. Had a great time tailgating with a couple of buddies and it was a pretty entertaining game, however I do remember feeling the same way you did. The Bills were losing, Kelly was out of the game and whatever buzz I had from the morning beer fest had worn off with the stress of the game. Suddenly it dawned on me that there wasn't enough time for the Bills to come back and Kelly looked broken on his way out. They were going to lose and they did. It was a pretty bleak car ride home!

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5 hours ago, Phil The Thrill said:

$12 an hour, a free game ticket, and got pizza from LaNova.  Not a bad deal!  Also how do they know you are shoveling?  Can’t you show up to shovel and disappear in the bathroom for 6 hours only to come out and collect your cash and ticket?

They have workers there who are helping out with the snow removal, but also keep a general eye out over everyone. They'll generally leave u alone to shovel the snow, but if they see u slacking off or hanging out with a group of people, they'll come over & give u the ultimatum of either work or leave.

 

I got away with doing as little work as possible when i was there before, but my friend was pissed at me bcuz he nearly thru his back out shoveling, while i was drinking a flask of whiskey with some guys & smoking, whenever i got the chance. Hey it was cold out there :P

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$12 an hour and a nose bleed section ticket and some pizza to shovel snow? Are you kidding me? I get that there are a lot of people out of work that will jump at the chance to make some cash but what a slap in the face. You can make more money flippin burgers! $12 an hour so multi-millionaires can play a game and get paid by multi-billionaires? Give me a frickin break. Pay them at least $25 an hour and give them a decent seat for the game. It's really too bad that these Billionaires dangle a little carrot out in front of people who really need the money to get cheap labor. Why don't they do something decent for these people. Surprise them with a $1,000.00 check with a memo that says "Happy Holidays". $12 an hour. What a joke!

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2 minutes ago, RobH063 said:

$12 an hour and a nose bleed section ticket and some pizza to shovel snow? Are you kidding me? I get that there are a lot of people out of work that will jump at the chance to make some cash but what a slap in the face. You can make more money flippin burgers! $12 an hour so multi-millionaires can play a game and get paid by multi-billionaires? Give me a frickin break. Pay them at least $25 an hour and give them a decent seat for the game. It's really too bad that these Billionaires dangle a little carrot out in front of people who really need the money to get cheap labor. Why don't they do something decent for these people. Surprise them with a $1,000.00 check with a memo that says "Happy Holidays". $12 an hour. What a joke!

It is kind of a weird situation. I guess the reward would increase of no one showed...

 

They could easily pay more to get some professionals in there to clear the place out. But, you know, it's Buffalo. Where people enjoy being miserable.

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1 hour ago, RobH063 said:

$12 an hour and a nose bleed section ticket and some pizza to shovel snow? Are you kidding me? I get that there are a lot of people out of work that will jump at the chance to make some cash but what a slap in the face. You can make more money flippin burgers! $12 an hour so multi-millionaires can play a game and get paid by multi-billionaires? Give me a frickin break. Pay them at least $25 an hour and give them a decent seat for the game. It's really too bad that these Billionaires dangle a little carrot out in front of people who really need the money to get cheap labor. Why don't they do something decent for these people. Surprise them with a $1,000.00 check with a memo that says "Happy Holidays". $12 an hour. What a joke!

 

You know that you’re not obligated to go there and shovel, right?

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8 hours ago, RobH063 said:

$12 an hour and a nose bleed section ticket and some pizza to shovel snow? Are you kidding me? I get that there are a lot of people out of work that will jump at the chance to make some cash but what a slap in the face. You can make more money flippin burgers! $12 an hour so multi-millionaires can play a game and get paid by multi-billionaires? Give me a frickin break. Pay them at least $25 an hour and give them a decent seat for the game. It's really too bad that these Billionaires dangle a little carrot out in front of people who really need the money to get cheap labor. Why don't they do something decent for these people. Surprise them with a $1,000.00 check with a memo that says "Happy Holidays". $12 an hour. What a joke!

 

You know that you’re not obligated to go there and shovel, right?

I have no intention of going there to shovel snow. I'm neither close enough to the stadium or in need of the money. I wouldn't think of taking away an opportunity for someone who does need the money. But what bothers me is that you must think it's fine for a Billionaire to pay someone as little as $12 to do back breaking work and YoloinOhio finds it funny that I would find it Outrageous that these people are being taken advantage of by Billionaires or that you had a smart A** remark about my position. All I was saying was that I find it reprehensible to pay people so little to do a hard job. I'd like to know why taking advantage of people is acceptable?

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35 minutes ago, RobH063 said:

I have no intention of going there to shovel snow. I'm neither close enough to the stadium or in need of the money. I wouldn't think of taking away an opportunity for someone who does need the money. But what bothers me is that you must think it's fine for a Billionaire to pay someone as little as $12 to do back breaking work and YoloinOhio finds it funny that I would find it Outrageous that these people are being taken advantage of by Billionaires or that you had a smart A** remark about my position. All I was saying was that I find it reprehensible to pay people so little to do a hard job. I'd like to know why taking advantage of people is acceptable?

 

Because pay is equal to the value added by the task; it has no relation to the wealth of the payer.

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15 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

 

Because pay is equal to the value added by the task; it has no relation to the wealth of the payer.

So you're saying the Bills (Millionaires and Billionaires) Value the task of shoveling snow for hours to be worth less than working at a fast food joint? You're making my point for me.

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1 hour ago, thebandit27 said:

 

Because pay is equal to the value added by the task; it has no relation to the wealth of the payer.

 

and your only hope of getting a real raise is to solicit a competing offer and hold it against your employer

 

 

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58 minutes ago, RobH063 said:

So you're saying the Bills (Millionaires and Billionaires) Value the task of shoveling snow for hours to be worth less than working at a fast food joint? You're making my point for me.

 

Just because a government entity makes a law that requires a company to pay a certain rate, that doesn't mean that the work is worth a greater value.

 

There's a reason that kids shovel driveways at $5 a pop--it's unskilled labor that anyone can do. 

 

Nobody is is entitled to more of the Pegulas money just because they happen to be billionaires--that thought process is selfish and wrong IMO.

 

The bottom line here is that any job is worth what someone is willing to pay. If they don't get enough shovelers, then they'll need to pay more. If they do get enough, then clearly the pay is sufficient to attract willing participants.

21 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

and your only hope of getting a real raise is to solicit a competing offer and hold it against your employer

 

 

 

Sure. Or go do something on your own. Either way, pay is based upon the value of the task performed.

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1 hour ago, row_33 said:

 

and your only hope of getting a real raise is to solicit a competing offer and hold it against your employer

 

 

Or in this case, hope for another round of 'lake effect' snow.  A BIG round.  😁

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I wonder what they're offering to shovel over at Hammer's lot?  🤔

 

Sal and Max can go shovel out NEF, and Sal can report on it!

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10 hours ago, RobH063 said:

$12 an hour and a nose bleed section ticket and some pizza to shovel snow? Are you kidding me? I get that there are a lot of people out of work that will jump at the chance to make some cash but what a slap in the face. You can make more money flippin burgers! $12 an hour so multi-millionaires can play a game and get paid by multi-billionaires? Give me a frickin break. Pay them at least $25 an hour and give them a decent seat for the game. It's really too bad that these Billionaires dangle a little carrot out in front of people who really need the money to get cheap labor. Why don't they do something decent for these people. Surprise them with a $1,000.00 check with a memo that says "Happy Holidays". $12 an hour. What a joke!

 

Nose-bleed seats at the Ralph are decent seats and premium seats in just about every other stadium. Proud member of the section 333/334 crew! Great view of the entire game

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1 minute ago, pepsicat17 said:

Proud member of the section 333/334 crew! Great view of the entire game

And, your avatar shows you're 'Batcat'!

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2 hours ago, RobH063 said:

I have no intention of going there to shovel snow. I'm neither close enough to the stadium or in need of the money. I wouldn't think of taking away an opportunity for someone who does need the money. But what bothers me is that you must think it's fine for a Billionaire to pay someone as little as $12 to do back breaking work and YoloinOhio finds it funny that I would find it Outrageous that these people are being taken advantage of by Billionaires or that you had a smart A** remark about my position. All I was saying was that I find it reprehensible to pay people so little to do a hard job. I'd like to know why taking advantage of people is acceptable?

No one is being taken advantage of in this scenario.  A bunch of Buffalonians have the opportunity to pocket some extra cash AND go to a Bills game against a divisional opponent.  For a lot of the volunteers, Bills games aren't in the budget. 

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6 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

Granted there's no rich owner, but for reference it looks like the going rate last year at Lambeau was $10/hour with no mention of lunch, dinner or a ticket. 

 

https://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/fans/2017/12/18/hundreds-turn-out-clear-lambeau-field-snow/961392001/

 

Now how crazy is this? You could potentially have team "owners" out there shoveling snow and getting paid for it!

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