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1 hour ago, Watkins90 said:

You clearly didn't read the article. He lives in Green Bay and has season tickets to the Packers. He never misses a home game. He also has season tickets to the Bears and probably only goes to the Bears-Packers game at Soldier Field. Maybe one other one if the Packers aren't home and he feels like it. Otherwise, he just sells them. Basically, he has Bears season tickets so he can have good seats Bears-Packers game without paying a huge amount for them. I also bet he makes a profit off those Bears' season tickets, which helps him pay for his Packers' season tickets. 



 

I did read it, though not the second-half.  When I got to the point that this restriction applied only to  "on field passes," the conclusion that this guy is a moron can be reached.  They aren't prohibiting him from wearing Green Bay appeal anywhere else.  Put a Bears jacket over your packers stuff, or an NFL jacket, etc.    File a federal lawsuit=moron/jack*as. 

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2 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said:

No it isnt their right.  As long as he is not disrespectful and the attire is not inappropriate he can express himself any way he sees fit.  He is a patron not an employee.

 

He'd be safe in Pittsburgh as long as he wasnt pregnant.

Uhh. Uhhhh exsqueeze me?  Why isn't it there a right for them?  This is entirely their right. It's their business and they can do so.  Masterpiece cake, brahhhh.

 

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6 hours ago, JinxedBill1 said:

What is this a Seinfeld episode?

Take off the Orioles hat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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5 hours ago, Chris from Rochester said:

I'm from upstate NY originally and live in NC now and am very excited to wear my Sabres jersey at the Hurricanes game next month. As much as I hate to say it, there are Patriots fans who live in Buffalo and have every right to support the team they love when they come to town.  I'm sure the Bears ownership has no problem with Pack fans buying $15 beers and $10 hot dogs tho when they are in the stadium.  This is stupid.

I’ve spend a lot of time in Charlotte and there are people there who don’t even know they have a hockey, much less won a Stanley Cup.  I think you will survive that “hostile “ environment.

 

and if you bought the ticket, you should be able to wear whatever jersey you want.  That’s on Bears fans.

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Where does something like this stop?  No green or yellow shirts, shoelaces, underwear?  Bears are idiots.  Let the guy on the field. 

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26 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

I’ve spend a lot of time in Charlotte and there are people there who don’t even know they have a hockey, much less won a Stanley Cup.  I think you will survive that “hostile “ environment.

 

and if you bought the ticket, you should be able to wear whatever jersey you want.  That’s on Bears fans.

It says the dude is a season ticket holder

 

 

I have to think there is more to this story.

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3 hours ago, RyanC883 said:

This fan sounds like a moron.  He can't wear opposing teams apparel on the sideline.  He can wear it during the game.  Is it a dumb rule: Yes.  Is it worth filing a federal lawsuit over: No.   Sounds like he has a case of victimitis. 

 

Write to the newspaper and make the Bears look bad if you want, but this guy comes off looking like a clown for filing a federal lawsuit over not being able to wear packers gear during a bears game.  And why does he have Bears season tix if he's such a huge Packers fan?   Shouldn't he be watching Packers games?

 

Apparently, he buys 5 season tickets each year, uses them with his family when the Pack come to town, and sells the rest on StubHub.

 

Per the article, the issue isn't him wearing Packers gear in the stadium, but the Bears put on special Season Ticket Holder perk events that he qualifies for (by virtue of having 5 seasons for years), and he wants to wear his gear on the sidelines at those.

 

 

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Im not an attorney, but doesn’t this fall under the fan’s 1st amendment rights?

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2 hours ago, Boyst62 said:

Uhh. Uhhhh exsqueeze me?  Why isn't it there a right for them?  This is entirely their right. It's their business and they can do so.  Masterpiece cake, brahhhh.

 

Because he purchased those seats. In other words he paid for the right for his person and attire to occupy those seats and therefore they sold any rights they have to said property as long as he does not commit any misconduct.

9 minutes ago, The Senator said:

 

Im not an attorney, but doesn’t this fall under the fan’s 1st amendment rights?

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Bingo

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5 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said:

Because he purchased those seats. In other words he paid for the right for his person and attire to occupy those seats and therefore they sold any rights they have to said property as long as he does not commit any misconduct.

Bingo

The argument isn't him wearing the gear at his seats. It's him wearing the gear on the field during pregame festivities. 

 

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1 minute ago, Watkins90 said:

The argument isn't him wearing the gear at his seats. It's him wearing the gear on the field during pregame festivities. 

 

Its still the same.  What if his shirt had a picture of Martin Luther King on it and they said he couldnt wear it.  Im going to the extreme but I guess its necessary to go there for you to understand.

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Where does a teacher get the money for 5 seasons tix in Chicago plus another set at Lambeau, plus the legal fees? (My FIRST thought.) Good for him! I like his spunk, but I also get where the teams come from. He earned his points and I’d like to see David beat Goliath in this case. What does it reallly hurt? Maybe show a little open-mindedness. 

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6 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said:

Its still the same.  What if his shirt had a picture of Martin Luther King on it and they said he couldnt wear it.  Im going to the extreme but I guess its necessary to go there for you to understand.

That's not what you wrote. You clearly stated "seats." That's a lot different than being on the field for pregame festivities. You don't need to insult me. 

5 minutes ago, Augie said:

Where does a teacher get the money for 5 seasons tix in Chicago plus another set at Lambeau, plus the legal fees? (My FIRST thought.) Good for him! I like his spunk, but I also get where the teams come from. He earned his points and I’d like to see David beat Goliath in this case. What does it reallly hurt? Maybe show a little open-mindedness. 

Guys, he sells most of the Bears tickets. I bet they always go for above face value, which is what he pays as a season ticket holder. It really isn't that inconceivable. 

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7 minutes ago, Watkins90 said:

That's not what you wrote. You clearly stated "seats." That's a lot different than being on the field for pregame festivities. You don't need to insult me. 

Guys, he sells most of the Bears tickets. I bet they always go for above face value, which is what he pays as a season ticket holder. It really isn't that inconceivable. 

 

Do they sell better than Bills tickets when they are out of the hunt and winter sets in? I hope so, for his sake. But to each their own, I’m not judging, just curious. For all I know he’s a trust fund baby, or it’s just that important to him. Either way, good for him! 

 

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So, the individual has first amendment rights but the business does not have rights to their 1st amendment?

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9 hours ago, Chris from Rochester said:

I'm from upstate NY originally and live in NC now and am very excited to wear my Sabres jersey at the Hurricanes game next month. As much as I hate to say it, there are Patriots fans who live in Buffalo and have every right to support the team they love when they come to town.  I'm sure the Bears ownership has no problem with Pack fans buying $15 beers and $10 hot dogs tho when they are in the stadium.  This is stupid.

 

I actually agree with every word here, but technically speaking they don't have 'every right'. Bears have a right to refuse business for just about any reason, as does any other business.

 

Still a dumb move. Really comes across weak, like they are afraid of opposing fans in their stadium. I like it better in Buffalo, where opposing fans are afraid of our stadium. 🙊🙉🙈

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1 hour ago, Augie said:

Where does a teacher get the money for 5 seasons tix in Chicago plus another set at Lambeau, plus the legal fees? (My FIRST thought.) Good for him! I like his spunk, but I also get where the teams come from. He earned his points and I’d like to see David beat Goliath in this case. What does it reallly hurt? Maybe show a little open-mindedness. 

Teachers get paid well. Especially long time teachers.

1 hour ago, Augie said:

Where does a teacher get the money for 5 seasons tix in Chicago plus another set at Lambeau, plus the legal fees? (My FIRST thought.) Good for him! I like his spunk, but I also get where the teams come from. He earned his points and I’d like to see David beat Goliath in this case. What does it reallly hurt? Maybe show a little open-mindedness. 

The article notes he was being represented by a legal team from a school(Duke Law School) that takes on cases for no charge for those who demonstrate financial need. For the practice of law students to get experience I would assume.

 

Also notes he is suing for legal fees, so if Bears lose they could possibly be ordered by the court to pay the legal team fees that the legal team previously agreed to provide for free to the Packer fan. Not sure how that works but seems illegal, however, can only assume they know what they are doing as they have been doing this previously.

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2 hours ago, Watkins90 said:

That's not what you wrote. You clearly stated "seats." That's a lot different than being on the field for pregame festivities. You don't need to insult me. 

Guys, he sells most of the Bears tickets. I bet they always go for above face value, which is what he pays as a season ticket holder. It really isn't that inconceivable. 

Not an insult.  The first Amendment applys everywhere there is not a binding agreement and even with an agreement what can be limited is limited.  I didnt mean to insult you I just was pointing out my example was exstreme to make a point.  Obviously there is a big difference between packers gear and MLK but the later is easier to see  a violation.  However they are equally protected.

1 hour ago, cba fan said:

Teachers get paid well. Especially long time teachers.

The article notes he was being represented by a legal team from a school(Duke Law School) that takes on cases for no charge for those who demonstrate financial need. For the practice of law students to get experience I would assume.

 

Also notes he is suing for legal fees, so if Bears lose they could possibly be ordered by the court to pay the legal team fees that the legal team previously agreed to provide for free to the Packer fan. Not sure how that works but seems illegal, however, can only assume they know what they are doing as they have been doing this previously.

No they simply wave the fees if the case is not won, Just like personal injury cases.  Not uncommon at all.

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22 hours ago, That's No Moon said:

Bet they monitor the 5 seats he owns every week looking for an excuse to take the seats away.  The guy said he owns the seats just to go to the Packers game and sells them the rest of the time.

Then, I would say that the Bears have some traction.  If you are selling for profit EVERY game, then you are not a fan of the team. Being a season ticket holder is not a business, and you should not profit from the tickets as such.

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39 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said:

Then, I would say that the Bears have some traction.  If you are selling for profit EVERY game, then you are not a fan of the team. Being a season ticket holder is not a business, and you should not profit from the tickets as such.

 

if he uses the NFL Ticket Exchange he's likely ok....that would be very bad PR

 

having said that....the Denver Broncos recently purged hundreds of these STH types (helps if you have a waiting list)

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I don't see how the Bears have any prayer of winning this, unless there is some stipulation in the agreement between the club and season ticket holder that agreed to before purchasing his tickets.

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The rule should only apply (league wide) for Patriots** jerseys

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