WideNine Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Bob in STL said: I say he is in the top 3. Definitely a shut down corner and a fantastic player. The dancing behind the ref was pretty dumb, especially with the call on us. I get it, some of you guys like that stuff, there is more showboating in this league than ever. If the already over-officious refs tacked on an unsportsmanlike penalty that would have been real bad. Guess I am a bit old-school too Bob, I like players to be enthusiastic but worry about players that cannot get enough attention - usually goes too far. My hope is that White keeps it fun, but gains the maturity to know when to reign it in a bit before it hurts the team in a crucial situation. Also, I have always liked that kind of classy "act like you have been there before" attitude when you score or defend a pass. Kind of tells the world this isn't your first rodeo and "yes I will defend every pass thrown my way" nothing special to this no-fly zone. We have a lot of youth on this team, McDermott will certainly have his hands full trying to find the balance of enthusiasm and fun, but not letting it devolve into a circus of needy, attention-*****. Edited November 26, 2018 by WideNine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 2 hours ago, KW95 said: Is he one of the best? you watch football or just troll message boards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KW95 - JA17 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Just now, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: you watch football or just troll message boards? Is there a game on right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 11 minutes ago, KW95 said: Is there a game on right now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 3 hours ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: Can you imagine how much worse that Mahomes trade would be if we didn't end up with the best CB in the NFL? As it is it is supposidly still very lopsided Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Top 5 for sure. On any given Sunday, he could be the best. Special player. Special person. Needs to be a bill for life if his career stays along this trajectory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Bob in STL said: I say he is in the top 3. Definitely a shut down corner and a fantastic player. The dancing behind the ref was pretty dumb, especially with the call on us. I get it, some of you guys like that stuff, there is more showboating in this league than ever. If the already over-officious refs tacked on an unsportsmanlike penalty that would have been real bad. Do you end all your conversations with "get off my lawn?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 He's the only Bill worthy of going to the pro bowl this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 (edited) If we want to have a serious conversation about who the best corners in the league are then let's have it. I think there are 4 guys who have proven it over a period of years and are not showing any signs of slowing down: Patrick Peterson (yes I know Arizona suck but he is still playing excellent ball); Chris Harris Jnr (can play inside or outside and is a true playmaker); Darius Slay (a bit like Peterson his team sucks but he is still elite); and Case Hayward (in the conversation for most underrated player in the league). To me that is my undisputed top 4. Just below them I have the Jaguars two who haven't quite hit the heights of 2016 and 2017 (Bouye played the first of those in Houston) when they were elite but they are still playing at a high level. So that gets you to 6. I think you can then make a genuine case for Tre White and Marshon Lattimore who were outstanding rookies and are having really good second seasons. Equally you can make a case that while both Richard Sherman and Josh Norman have started to show signs of decline they have earned the benefit of the doubt for their prolonged performance in the league. The other name I will throw into the mix is going to be even less popular than Ramsey.... Stefon Gilmore is playing outstanding ball for New England at the moment and is in that top 10 conversation. EDIT: I should also give a mention to Jaire Alexander who is having an excellent rookie season. Edited November 26, 2018 by GunnerBill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Tre White is awesome. Hard to say he is the best but he is really up there. It also shows that having a great CB means really nothing in today’s nfl. A bunch of the best ones are in terrible teams - Peterson, Ramsey/ Bouye, slay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Jeetz1231 said: Do you end all your conversations with "get off my lawn?" Never once did my post imply anything like that. Do you read message boards to judge people and make yourself feel superior? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Is this about Jalen Ramsey? Or someone else? Tough to tell with the crappy click bait thread title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 54 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: He's the only Bill worthy of going to the pro bowl this year. Jerry Hughes as well I would say 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 8 minutes ago, billsfan11 said: Jerry Hughes as well I would say Hausch money too. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre1236 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 38 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Tre White is awesome. Hard to say he is the best but he is really up there. It also shows that having a great CB means really nothing in today’s nfl. A bunch of the best ones are in terrible teams - Peterson, Ramsey/ Bouye, slay. When have the Bills NOT had a terrific cornerback, and what has that gotten them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 He's outstanding. I'll leave it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Honestly, Tre is without question top 3 in NFL right now, and there isn’t a lot separating the guys in the top 3 either, they are all elite. Who cares how someone would rank them really anyway, it’s all opinion and subjective. But I will say this, Tre is ELITE and he’s a sensational teammate and locker room guy too. There is not a DB in the NFL I would trade him for straight up for. Not saying others are not elite too, but Tre is not only Elite he is the perfect guy for this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 3 hours ago, Bob in STL said: I say he is in the top 3. Definitely a shut down corner and a fantastic player. The dancing behind the ref was pretty dumb, especially with the call on us. I get it, some of you guys like that stuff, there is more showboating in this league than ever. If the already over-officious refs tacked on an unsportsmanlike penalty that would have been real bad. I don't mind the TD celebrations and any between the plays fun antics. I think it goes a long way, as far as entertainment is concerned. But I was not pleased to see a Bills player dancing behind the ref like that. It was unprofessional and just plain stupid. He should have been flagged and he should be fined. And if McDermott didn't have a conversation with him about it, then he's not doing his job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 52 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: If we want to have a serious conversation about who the best corners in the league are then let's have it. I think there are 4 guys who have proven it over a period of years and are not showing any signs of slowing down: Patrick Peterson (yes I know Arizona suck but he is still playing excellent ball); Chris Harris Jnr (can play inside or outside and is a true playmaker); Darius Slay (a bit like Peterson his team sucks but he is still elite); and Case Hayward (in the conversation for most underrated player in the league). To me that is my undisputed top 4. Just below them I have the Jaguars two who haven't quite hit the heights of 2016 and 2017 (Bouye played the first of those in Houston) when they were elite but they are still playing at a high level. So that gets you to 6. I think you can then make a genuine case for Tre White and Marshon Lattimore who were outstanding rookies and are having really good second seasons. Equally you can make a case that while both Richard Sherman and Josh Norman have started to show signs of decline they have earned the benefit of the doubt for their prolonged performance in the league. The other name I will throw into the mix is going to be even less popular than Ramsey.... Stefon Gilmore is playing outstanding ball for New England at the moment and is in that top 10 conversation. EDIT: I should also give a mention to Jaire Alexander who is having an excellent rookie season. Good post, however I disagree greatly on where you put Tre. He’s firmly entrenched now in the top 3 IMO. Most the guys you listed ahead of him are not playing better than him. I get your point on longevity, but on field play still matters and Tre is performing as a top 3 corner. And the separation in top 3 is minimal IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: If we want to have a serious conversation about who the best corners in the league are then let's have it. I think there are 4 guys who have proven it over a period of years and are not showing any signs of slowing down: Patrick Peterson (yes I know Arizona suck but he is still playing excellent ball); Chris Harris Jnr (can play inside or outside and is a true playmaker); Darius Slay (a bit like Peterson his team sucks but he is still elite); and Case Hayward (in the conversation for most underrated player in the league). To me that is my undisputed top 4. Just below them I have the Jaguars two who haven't quite hit the heights of 2016 and 2017 (Bouye played the first of those in Houston) when they were elite but they are still playing at a high level. So that gets you to 6. I think you can then make a genuine case for Tre White and Marshon Lattimore who were outstanding rookies and are having really good second seasons. Equally you can make a case that while both Richard Sherman and Josh Norman have started to show signs of decline they have earned the benefit of the doubt for their prolonged performance in the league. The other name I will throw into the mix is going to be even less popular than Ramsey.... Stefon Gilmore is playing outstanding ball for New England at the moment and is in that top 10 conversation. EDIT: I should also give a mention to Jaire Alexander who is having an excellent rookie season. Im just glad we have one of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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