Foxx Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Just now, ExiledInIllinois said: So there is no threshold. Individual thinking can not be counter-productive for the group? make sure and do me a favor... let me know when they come for you so i can pretend to care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Just now, Foxx said: TDS much? Hypocrite. Same thing you accuse me of with indentured servitude you do with wanting our leaders to coalesce power. Just now, Foxx said: make sure and do me a favor... let me know when they come for you so i can pretend to care. I would never want you to care. I am a big boy. They come for me, I can handle it. Sorry Snowflake, try again. 3 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: Sometimes what was old is new again. AOC and her brand might just make it legal to jail you for reasons beyond just tax evasion. Baloney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Hypocrite. Same thing you accuse me of with indentured servitude you do with wanting our leaders to coalesce power. strawman. please .... where have i ever, ever stated that i want our leaders to coalesce power? i am anarchist. the gift of another strawman for you to build upon. your doing quite poor at this. Edited January 6, 2019 by Foxx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) Theft of service = tax evasion. Not racking up debt. 1 minute ago, Foxx said: strawman. please .... where have i ever, ever stated that i want our leaders to coalesce power? i am anarchist. the gift of another strawman for you to build upon. By implying I have TDS. Can t speak out against demagoguery? That (not speaking out) leads to power grabs. 2 minutes ago, Foxx said: i am anarchist. At least We are getting somewhere. This I can respect. It's immoral and selfish, but I can at least respect you for admitting your deplorable behaviors. Edited January 6, 2019 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 19 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Wage slaves. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: By implying I have TDS. Can t speak out against demagoguery? That (not speaking out) leads to power grabs. are you saying that your previous post about installing a king was not in any way referenced to Trump? do i have to go find the post where you spoke of this? sure, you can speak out against demagoguery i encourage it. however it usually works better if the base upon which one stands is not built upon a demagoguery. Edited January 6, 2019 by Foxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 1 minute ago, /dev/null said: Nice. Who would thought the Basket of Deplorables would whine to this song. So Snowflake-esque. Play that for the NFL players is like playing that for the Average American. LoL... Trust the Process©. 2 minutes ago, Foxx said: are you saying that your previous post about installing a king was not in any way referenced to Trump? do i have to go find the post where you spoke of this? sure, you can speak out against demagoguery i encourage it. however it usually works better if the base upon which one stands is not built upon a demagoguery. No. You seem to want one person calling the shots. That's how Trump operates. That's not TDS on my part. That's being Anti-American on your part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Koko78 said: Krugman's right. 70% tax rate is fine, because absolutely nothing in the world economy has changed since 1945. This will all be fine. Nothing bad would come of it. I mean hell, at one point in the 50's, the tax rate for the top earners was 98%! It worked back then, there's absolutely no reason to think it wouldn't work now. Because the world economy is exactly the same! 1 hour ago, ExiledInIllinois said: https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5c3154e9e4b0733528336e49 "But what does Ocasio-Cortez know about tax policy? “A lot,” said the headline of an opinion piece Saturday in The New York Times by Nobel economics laureate Paul Krugman. A similar tax rate was imposed in the U.S. for 35 years after World War II, which included some of the “most successful periods of economic growth in history,” Krugman wrote. Tax cuts for the ultra wealthy mean far less to them than cuts for people with modest incomes, Krugman noted. And extra money in millions of hands boosts spending. “A policy that makes the rich a bit poorer will affect only a handful of people, and will barely affect their life satisfaction, since they will still be able to buy whatever they want,” Krugman wrote" Krugman's MAGA plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: ... At least We are getting somewhere. This I can respect. It's immoral and selfish, but I can at least respect you for admitting your deplorable behaviors. oh boy. i don't think you understand that which you speak of. not really surprising considering the voluminous display of your underpinnings down here. an anarchist advocates for the classless, self-governed societies based on voluntary, cooperative institutions, rejecting unjust hierarchy. or perhaps something you might better understand, free associations. but other than that... yeah it's pretty immoral and selfish. idiot. again, with all due respect.... 5 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: ... No. You seem to want one person calling the shots. That's how Trump operates. That's not TDS on my part. That's being Anti-American on your part. you really are dense aren't you? Edited January 6, 2019 by Foxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 21 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: So there is no threshold. Individual thinking can not be counter-productive for the group? That is absurd, and profoundly anti-western/American. Individual thinking is the cornerstone for any progress. Putting a cap on it is regressive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: ... I would never want you to care. I am a big boy. They come for me, I can handle it. ... you're off your rocker this morning....are you that addled that you do not understand what i am saying? or are you just feigning ignorance??? Edited January 6, 2019 by Foxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, Foxx said: you really are dense aren't you? He has over 38k posts in his tenure here. If you add up the total IQ points in all of those posts combined, you're still well below triple digits. He's not a deep thinker. He's not even a thinker. He vomits words onto the keyboard and pretends he's trolling when he gets called out for his nonsense. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: He has over 38k posts in his tenure here. If you add up the total IQ points in all of those posts combined, you're still well below triple digits. He's not a deep thinker. He's not even a thinker. He vomits words onto the keyboard and pretends he's trolling when he gets called out for his nonsense. i don't enjoy the previous display of discourse but my god..... sometimes you just have to say that ***** stinks to high heaven. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 The old federal tax rates that began to be fixed by JFK and further fixed by Reagan were tempered in a huge way by a bunch of tax write-offs. The middle class didn't have high tax rates but the very wealthy had tax rates of up to 90%. They found a way around these rates by buying into income losing schemes that enabled them to reduce their income (on paper) to get their tax rates down. Comparing 1950's tax rates with today's tax rates is like comparing an Edsel to an I-Phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: The old federal tax rates that began to be fixed by JFK and further fixed by Reagan were tempered in a huge way by a bunch of tax write-offs. The middle class didn't have high tax rates but the very wealthy had tax rates of up to 90%. They found a way around these rates by buying into income losing schemes that enabled them to reduce their income (on paper) to get their tax rates down. Comparing 1950's tax rates with today's tax rates is like comparing an Edsel to an I-Phone. And in the process to gain assets. A number of farms for quite a number of years until they changed the tax laws were run at a loss but gained expensive assets along the way in buildings and equipment. Improvements were made to land including contouring and drainage that could be depreciated and the net result was the increase of land value. Edited January 6, 2019 by RochesterRob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: And in the process to gain assets. A number of farms for quite a number of years until they changed the tax laws were run at a loss but gained expensive assets along the way in buildings and equipment. Like sport franchises. The wealthy people's 401k's. Edited January 6, 2019 by 3rdnlng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 40 minutes ago, Foxx said: you're off your rocker this morning....are you that addled that you do not understand what i am saying? or are you just feigning ignorance??? I am off my rocker every morning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 1 hour ago, snafu said: Krugman's MAGA plan. It's a shame Krugman lost his mind about 18 years ago. He's now just an unabashed liberal schill pretending that he's still an economist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 4 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Come on!... What's better than a doable Socialist? https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/why-does-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-get-so-much-attention-from-the-right/amp/ https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5c3154e9e4b0733528336e49 "But what does Ocasio-Cortez know about tax policy? “A lot,” said the headline of an opinion piece Saturday in The New York Times by Nobel economics laureate Paul Krugman. A similar tax rate was imposed in the U.S. for 35 years after World War II, which included some of the “most successful periods of economic growth in history,” Krugman wrote. Tax cuts for the ultra wealthy mean far less to them than cuts for people with modest incomes, Krugman noted. And extra money in millions of hands boosts spending. “A policy that makes the rich a bit poorer will affect only a handful of people, and will barely affect their life satisfaction, since they will still be able to buy whatever they want,” Krugman wrote" Sure...90% tax rates worked fine when the US had no international manufacturing competition and generated half the post-war world's GDP while supporting other major economies via the Marshall Plan. I'm sure it'll work just fine now when we're 15% of the world GDP while running annual half-trillion dollar trade deficits. How the ***** did Krugman ever win a Nobel Prize? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 8 minutes ago, DC Tom said: How the ***** did Krugman ever win a Nobel Prize? He does have a scholarly beard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, /dev/null said: He does have a scholarly beard 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Koko78 said: It's a shame Krugman lost his mind about 18 years ago. He's now just an unabashed liberal schill pretending that he's still an economist. More like 28 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 1 hour ago, DC Tom said: How the ***** did Krugman ever win a Nobel Prize? Asked by a lot of people the past 10 years.Nobel Prize in Economics - Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences “for his analysis of trade patterns and location of economic activity” - for those wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 2 hours ago, DC Tom said: Sure...90% tax rates worked fine when the US had no international manufacturing competition and generated half the post-war world's GDP while supporting other major economies via the Marshall Plan. I'm sure it'll work just fine now when we're 15% of the world GDP while running annual half-trillion dollar trade deficits. How the ***** did Krugman ever win a Nobel Prize? She is coming for you, white males. Hahahaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 7 minutes ago, Paulus said: She is coming for you, white males. Hahahaha. Not yet, but maybe later tonight after a few drinks she will be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 7 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Boo hoo Snowflake. You'll get over it. What a silly post. By the way, I "got over it" when I moved from California. My wife and I "got over it" when she gave up her nursing career because our federal burden and that state's tax burden, combined with child care costs would have netter her about 43 cents on the dollar to work as a nurse. For that 43 cents, we would have given up our kids for eight hours per day to someone else. Tax burdens have consequences, and it is much easier now to opt out of any countries' tax burden if it is judged confiscatory. 70% is absurd, and her scheme to swipe that money so that we can be fossil free in twelve years is the stuff of morons, as is silly name calling. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Koko78 said: Not yet, but maybe later tonight after a few drinks she will be... Who are the drinks for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, sherpa said: What a silly post. By the way, I "got over it" when I moved from California. My wife and I "got over it" when she gave up her nursing career because our federal burden and that state's tax burden, combined with child care costs would have netter her about 43 cents on the dollar to work as a nurse. For that 43 cents, we would have given up our kids for eight hours per day to someone else. Tax burdens have consequences, and it is much easier now to opt out of any countries' tax burden if it is judged confiscatory. 70% is absurd, and her scheme to swipe that money so that we can be fossil free in twelve years is the stuff of morons, as is silly name calling. Don't move to Kalifornia. At least it discouraged somebody. No need to sound whiney. That's a silly and unbecoming post. We need to start discouraging people from the coasts, fire zones, etc... Again... In the 1930s, people used their God given two feet to walk out of the Dust Bowls and to California, now go back... Wow... This Lib, Me, sounds conservative... LoL... Edited January 7, 2019 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, Paulus said: Who are the drinks for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 minute ago, /dev/null said: Right. Usually they are for me, but for her to drink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Don't move to Kalifornia. At least discouraged sonebody. No need to sound whiney. That's a silly and unbecoming post. We need to start discouraging people from the coasts, fire zones, etc... Again... In the 1930s, people used their God given two feet to walk out of the Dust Bowls and to California, now go back... Wow... This Lib, Me, sounds conservative... LoL... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 12 minutes ago, /dev/null said: She doesn't watch GOT and play Dungeons and Dragons. Out of your league. ? 4 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Fitting. I start sounding like a conservative and not a whiney Snowflake, I become a clown. Nice! LoL... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said: Right. Usually they are for me, but for her to drink. My point being, AOC is not the usual case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 3 hours ago, Paulus said: Who are the drinks for? Me. I'm going to need a buzz to put up with her brand of stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 3 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: She doesn't watch GOT and play Dungeons and Dragons. Out of your league. ? Fitting. I start sounding like a conservative and not a whiney Snowflake, I become a clown. Nice! LoL... Eric, you've always been a clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Eric, you've always been a clown. So have you Rich. But I don't need to change my screen name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 21 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: So have you Rich. But I don't need to change my screen name. Feel free clown, to check my past screen names. You know damn well, I'm not your "top" and will never be that or your "bottom". I can suggest a ******* site or two if that's what you want. How did the last referral work out for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 16 hours ago, LBSeeBallLBGetBall said: Man hands. That's a man, baby. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 12 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Don't move to Kalifornia. At least it discouraged somebody. No need to sound whiney. That's a silly and unbecoming post. We need to start discouraging people from the coasts, fire zones, etc... Again... In the 1930s, people used their God given two feet to walk out of the Dust Bowls and to California, now go back... Wow... This Lib, Me, sounds conservative... LoL... It didn't "discourage me." I lived there for 12 years, seven spent serving as a Navy pilot, though a good deal of that time was spent out of the state on aircraft carriers, met and married my wife there, had two children, and I used my "God given feet" to leave there, just as I used my "God given feet to leave your state. It certainly isn't "whiney" to make decisions based on what is in the best interest of your family. We don't "need to discourage people from the coasts," anymore than we need some inexperienced Congresswoman proposing idiotic tax policy to fund impossible and ridiculous fossil fuel policy. You should stop giving advice. It isn't sought nor valuable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 (edited) 32 minutes ago, sherpa said: It didn't "discourage me." I lived there for 12 years, seven spent serving as a Navy pilot, though a good deal of that time was spent out of the state on aircraft carriers, met and married my wife there, had two children, and I used my "God given feet" to leave there, just as I used my "God given feet to leave your state. It certainly isn't "whiney" to make decisions based on what is in the best interest of your family. We don't "need to discourage people from the coasts," anymore than we need some inexperienced Congresswoman proposing idiotic tax policy to fund impossible and ridiculous fossil fuel policy. You should stop giving advice. It isn't sought nor valuable. Yeah we do need to discourage people from the coasts just like we did with them tilling in a dust bowel. Everybody is paying for it... Co-workers are down in Florida still cleaning up after the hurricane. It's freaking January. I don't deny climate change, but do you want some BS political football punted to everyone? You want to live there, then live there right, don't expect others to pay. It's unsustainable, why we have the BS wing of the liberals crying and whining about climate change... Congresswoman proposing idiotic taxes. Edited January 7, 2019 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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