Numark3 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: You missed the point I was making. The idea Trump has increased unchecked executive authority is a fantasy. He's done more to reduce it, compared to the previous administration. But details and facts that run counter to the narrative are easy to forget. No I got your point, but I wasn’t making that point. I don’t like the same party having control of both branches. im liberal, but I think the government works best when there is a mix. Though maybe that’s not true anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Crayola64 said: No I got your point, but I wasn’t making that point. I don’t like the same party having control of both branches. im liberal, but I think the government works best when there is a mix. Though maybe that’s not true anymore This is a different moment in history. This isn't about blue v red. It's about the uniparty/establishment versus the people. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark3 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: This is a different moment in history. This isn't about blue v red. It's about the uniparty/establishment versus the people. I would be down with that if true, but I don’t see it! One day lol 11 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: So we end up with compromise bills getting passed that cost a ton of money and don't reflect the will of the people. Maybe 15 years ago. But now both parties will just obstruct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Crayola64 said: I would be down with that if true, but I don’t see it! One day lol I would suggest taking a spin through the DS thread from the first page on. Lots of information there, lots of reading, but there's overwhelming evidence to suggest what I'm proposing is real and happening now. Then think back to the past three administrations (if you're old enough, no judgment I'm just not sure your age) and how despite being different parties, they governed for outside, big moneyed interests that worked in opposition to the wishes of the American people. Think NAFTA and the offshoring of millions of jobs in the name of higher profits for corporations at the expense of the workers. Think WMD in Iraq and 17 years of war that followed. Think the 2008 crash and bailout of the big banks while homeowners took it on the chin. Think political spying on Congress, the press, and American citizens at the hands of the last administration. Think about the stripping back, through multiple administrations, of our first, fourth, and fifth amendment protections. The uniparty establishment is one big club, and we ain't in it. Edited November 6, 2018 by Deranged Rhino 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinRome Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Very long lines to vote in my small central NY village. Everyone commenting on how they’ve never experienced such high numbers of people at the polls. I did my duty of canceling my wife’s leftist votes. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark3 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: I would suggest taking a spin through the DS thread from the first page on. Lots of information there, lots of reading, but there's overwhelming evidence to suggest what I'm proposing is real and happening now. Then think back to the past three administrations (if you're old enough, no judgment I'm just not sure your age) and how despite being different parties, they governed for outside, big moneyed interests that worked in opposition to the wishes of the American people. Think NAFTA and the offshoring of millions of jobs in the name of higher profits for corporations at the expense of the workers. Think WMD in Iraq and 17 years of war that followed. Think the 2008 crash and bailout of the big banks while homeowners took it on the chin. Think political spying on Congress, the press, and American citizens at the hands of the last administration. Think about the stripping back, through multiple administrations, of our first, fourth, and fifth amendment protections. The uniparty establishment is one big club, and we ain't in it. I agree mostly with what you are saying. But I don’t believe the vast majority of people saying they are against it (example trump, or even people like pelosi) infact are. If that makes sense. Or what I’m saying is I don’t know if this election isn’t about fixing that problem (unfortunately) neither party represents me, but I can’t stand some of the social stances of the right. I don’t like much of the economic stances on the left though. Edited November 6, 2018 by Crayola64 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kevbeau Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 1 minute ago, KevinRome said: Very long lines to vote in my small central NY village. Everyone commenting on how they’ve never experienced such high numbers of people at the polls. I did my duty of canceling my wife’s leftist votes. Same here. Told her we could skip the lines as we’re net neutral. She wouldn’t go for it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Crayola64 said: I agree mostly with what you are saying. But I don’t believe the vast majority of people saying they are against it (example trump, or even people like pelosi) infact are. If that makes sense. Or what I’m saying is I don’t know if this election isn’t about fixing that problem You're right this election isn't going to fix the problem - it's just going to determine how ugly the fixing of the problem gets. Big reveals are coming regarding SpyGate, including indictments of big names in the political world. This will cause angst and anxiety in partisans. A unified House and/or Senate won't change that much... but it could go a long ways to reassuring the public when things get wonky. If the House goes blue, even by a slim minority, it's going to be rockier than if it holds red. But either way, it's not going to stop what's coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share Posted November 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, KevinRome said: Very long lines to vote in my small central NY village. Everyone commenting on how they’ve never experienced such high numbers of people at the polls. I did my duty of canceling my wife’s leftist votes. Good man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 17 minutes ago, Crayola64 said: Maybe 15 years ago. But now both parties will just obstruct Oh no, they will spend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 10 minutes ago, KevinRome said: Very long lines to vote in my small central NY village. Everyone commenting on how they’ve never experienced such high numbers of people at the polls. I did my duty of canceling my wife’s leftist votes. Why did you give her permission to leave the house? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gavin in Va Beach Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Voted. Straight R due to the Kavanaugh/Crazy Left in the Dem party. I actually would have voted for the Dem running for House Rep in this area as she seemed pretty sensible, but she's aligned with the lunatics so there you go. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 This is a worthwhile twitter account to check today. Guy has good numbers, pretty centrist rather than partisan. Thread here: ********************* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 #WalkAway #BoarderInvasion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 6 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: This is a worthwhile twitter account to check today. Guy has good numbers, pretty centrist rather than partisan. Thread here: So what's he saying the outcome will be? Couldn't follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 NJ is actually in play... hence the late endorsement. Which shouldn't be a shock. Menedez is an honest to god crook - and that's the best skeleton in his closet. Just now, Boyst62 said: So what's he saying the outcome will be? Couldn't follow. His analysis won't start until 6pm, he's listing the races he's following in that thread that will either disprove or prove his pre-election model (which was a GOP hold on the House while losing 5-10 seats, and a GOP gain in the senate of 5-7). ********************* More evidence of what is happening: uniparty vs the people, not red vs blue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 18 minutes ago, Rob's House said: Why did you give her permission to leave the house? Horseshit! He should have told her how to vote and she should have voted the way he commanded. Didn't you believe Hillary when she told everyone that's why she lost the election? 39 minutes ago, Crayola64 said: I would be down with that if true, but I don’t see it! One day lol Maybe 15 years ago. But now both parties will just obstruct Like the last omnibus bill, eh? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 15 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: CNN BREAKING: Trump Sexually Assaults Black Grandmother! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 49 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Think WMD in Iraq and 17 years of war that followed. Think the 2008 crash and bailout of the big banks while homeowners took it on the chin. The uniparty establishment is one big club, and we ain't in it. There is no doubt in my mind that the existence of WMD in Iraq was a universal, honest opinion of the entire US intel community. A view based on zero humint and defectors. A wrong opinion. A tragic opinion. The efforts of the Fed in 2008 had to do with saving our entire capital structure, without favorites, and brilliantly executed. It could have been way, way worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Rob's House said: Ugh. #IVoted is trending on twitter. As if the actual stickers weren't pretentious enough, they've now gone viral! Edited November 6, 2018 by LSHMEAB 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 31 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: Ugh. #IVoted is trending on twitter. As if the actual stickers weren't pretentious enough, they've now gone viral! Those stickers were kinda cool when I was like 18 and had voted the first time Now they're as interesting and useful as a chicata bananna sticker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share Posted November 6, 2018 42 minutes ago, sherpa said: The efforts of the Fed in 2008 had to do with saving our entire capital structure, without favorites, and brilliantly executed. It could have been way, way worse. The Fed is a vile and evil institution, and we'd be better off without it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 49 minutes ago, sherpa said: There is no doubt in my mind that the existence of WMD in Iraq was a universal, honest opinion of the entire US intel community. A view based on zero humint and defectors. A wrong opinion. A tragic opinion. It was not a universally shared opinion inside the IC, it was a highly debated. The voices who disagreed were silenced in favor of pushing through the administration's agenda. That's not to say everyone who thought there were WMD were lying, plenty believed it inside the IC (hence, confirmation bias), that would be as inaccurate as saying it was a universally agreed upon position. It wasn't. And because it wasn't, the IC used its media mouthpieces to push the opinion into fact territory in the MSM. The same model was used in 2002-2003 which we say used in the Russia narrative in 2016-2017. 10 minutes ago, joesixpack said: The Fed is a vile and evil institution, and we'd be better off without it. Correct. It's a cabal controlled institution, always has been. ***************** We'll find out soon enough if their record remains intact: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 18 minutes ago, /dev/null said: chicata bananna sticker #MAGA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Prickly Pete Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 56 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: Ugh. #IVoted is trending on twitter. As if the actual stickers weren't pretentious enough, they've now gone viral! They're shaming tools. For the "lf you don't vote you can't complain" crowd. If you pay taxes, you can complain. I would rather informed people ( even misinformed) voted, than people just doing it for a sticker. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 56 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: Ugh. #IVoted is trending on twitter. As if the actual stickers weren't pretentious enough, they've now gone viral! I posted that picture on FB and it prompted some sanctimonious pu$$y to write some lame diatribe about how offensive it is. Of course, he didn't have the balls to post it as a response or even tag me in his post. People like that make it all worth it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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njbuff Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 If Republicans keep both the house and the senate ................. it is going to be priceless to see how the Democratic brain dead moronic media reacts to it. But there is still time and who the heck knows how it will turn out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Add this to what's happening in NJ and look out. Just now, njbuff said: If Republicans keep both the house and the senate ................. it is going to be priceless to see how the Democratic brain dead moronic media reacts to it. But there is still time and who the heck knows how it will turn out. Too early still. Reminder to all: AVOID/IGNORE exit polls being pushed at 5pm. They're all garbage propaganda. Focus on actual results, which won't be known immediately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: Add this to what's happening in NJ and look out. Too early still. Reminder to all: AVOID/IGNORE exit polls being pushed at 5pm. They're all garbage propaganda. Focus on actual results, which won't be known immediately. We all should have learned that lesson two years ago. That is why I am not predicting any outcome. I am just telling myself (and others) what it would be like if the Dems lose out on everything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share Posted November 6, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Add this to what's happening in NJ and look out. What's happening in NJ? Edited November 6, 2018 by joesixpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Ian Millhiser puts the 'melt' in meltdown. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 7 minutes ago, joesixpack said: What's happening in NJ? Trump sent out a tweet endorsing Hugins an hour or two ago. The likely reason for it is internal numbers are showing NJ is in play (hence the late endorsement). Stories from the ground in NJ are reporting massive red turnout aimed at unseating (the literal crook) Menedez. ******************************************* GBD probably should post this one... but: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 This would make my heart soar like a hawk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Nanker said: This would make my heart soar like a hawk. I didn't really think Menedez was in danger until this morning. Everything I'm hearing is he's in BIG trouble... but the fog of war right now is thicker than ever. Take every report with a grain of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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