John from Riverside Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Just now, eanyills said: Nice strawman. You’re debating arguments nobody has made in this thread. What exactly is strawman about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commsvet11 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Because of one qb who sat for a year and now is playing on a all star team of offensive players....... By the way....Mahommes just threw his 6th interception in the last 4 games.....and ppl think he would not throw more with this offensive trash.....comical His offensive line is keeping him clean....his OT's are playing outstanding.....and ppl think he would get that here....comical Everytime I read something like this I tend to agree which begs the question why aren’t the bills like those other teams where QBs are put in a position to succeed? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeby Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, eanyills said: Nice strawman. You’re debating arguments nobody has made in this thread. Actually, it was - someone said that most fans were shifting to thinking the bills waited a year too long to pick their qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: Early on everyone was clamoring that we got the wrong guy. They were the best of the bunch. Now that they are playing like rookies we've moved on to mahomes. Its hilarious. Rookies are all playing like rookies. Based on what I've watched. I'd still take my chances on Allen all day. I’ve moved on to Aaron Rodgers Edited October 28, 2018 by Over 29 years of fanhood 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, Commsvet11 said: Everytime I read something like this I tend to agree which begs the question why aren’t the bills like those other teams where QBs are put in a position to succeed? I dont have an answer for you other then the Chiefs did it differently.....whether it be right or whether it be wrong the bills decided to biuld this team in phases.......I fully expect this to be a concentrated effort this offseason to improve this offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeby Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Darnold looks worse than JA from what i've watched today. Small sample size of jets games i've seen this year but we'll see a lot more soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 33 minutes ago, Bangarang said: I wanted Rosen and here I am still. What can I help you with? Has he shown something significantly better than JA thus far that would validate taking him over JA if you rewound to draft day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 12 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Because of one qb who sat for a year and now is playing on a all star team of offensive players....... By the way....Mahommes just threw his 6th interception in the last 4 games.....and ppl think he would not throw more with this offensive trash.....comical His offensive line is keeping him clean....his OT's are playing outstanding.....and ppl think he would get that here....comical I don’t think anyone in their right mind thinks Mahomes performance would be identical if he were in Buffalo. He may just be a better QB than the four rookies will ever be, and the Bills had the opportunity to draft him without moving up. They also could have sat him for a year. It’s not as ridiculous a notion as you make it out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Just now, Boatdrinks said: I don’t think anyone in their right mind thinks Mahomes performance would be identical if he were in Buffalo. He may just be a better QB than the four rookies will ever be, and the Bills had the opportunity to draft him without moving up. They also could have sat him for a year. It’s not as ridiculous a notion as you make it out to be. I have no problem believing that Mahommes would have been a qb for us once we got offensive weapons around him I just dont think he would have ended up looking like this So the question becomes......the trade netted us Trey White who is one of the bet corners in the league and the first round pick which turned into Josh Allen...... If Josh Allen becomes a good qb we did not lose this trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Just now, John from Riverside said: I have no problem believing that Mahommes would have been a qb for us once we got offensive weapons around him I just dont think he would have ended up looking like this So the question becomes......the trade netted us Trey White who is one of the bet corners in the league and the first round pick which turned into Josh Allen...... If Josh Allen becomes a good qb we did not lose this trade Yes, it all comes back to Josh Allen and what he turns out to be. Passing on your biggest need for a CB ( regardless of how good the player is ) is going to be questioned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventeen Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 34 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Mayfield looks like the real deal--plus he's handicapped by the worst HC in NFL history. What was the OP's point again? Not today he didn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 9 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Has he shown something significantly better than JA thus far that would validate taking him over JA if you rewound to draft day? I would still draft Rosen ahead of Allen every time if given the opportunity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 I still think Mayfield is one of the next great QB's. I haven't wavered. There will be ups and downs with Rookie QB's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 50 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: Early on everyone was clamoring that we got the wrong guy. They were the best of the bunch. Now that they are playing like rookies we've moved on to mahomes. Its hilarious. Rookies are all playing like rookies. Based on what I've watched. I'd still take my chances on Allen all day. Heck, I like all four of them---I think they all show promise---could turn out to be a historic draft for QB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87168 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 not sure. maybe they're hanging out with Sammy Watkins fans 8 REC, 107 YDS, 2 TD - that's pretty nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 (edited) Put a real team around Mayfield and he's Mahomes. Edited October 28, 2018 by Mr. WEO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Romo pointed out that the bottom 4 in completion percentage are the 4 rookies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted October 28, 2018 Author Share Posted October 28, 2018 1 hour ago, LSHMEAB said: THE STRUGGLES OF THE OTHER ROOKIE QUARTERBACKS IS NOT A GOOD THING FOR ALLEN!!!!!!!! They could ALL suck! I'm tired of this narrative. Not saying it is a good thing. But I'm saying that you aren't a bust after a couple bad games. Otherwise they all should be cut. 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: Put a real team around Mayfield and he's Mahomes. Wtf? A real team? His supporting cast isnt that bad at all. Could we say same about Allen? We dont know because his supporting cast is worse. So ridiculous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Same thing I say about Allen. They're ROOKIES. They get more than a handful of games before I pass personal judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: Not saying it is a good thing. But I'm saying that you aren't a bust after a couple bad games. Otherwise they all should be cut. Wtf? A real team? His supporting cast isnt that bad at all. Could we say same about Allen? We dont know because his supporting cast is worse. So ridiculous The Browns roster on offense is pretty weak. One WR. O-line blows. HC is a slow adult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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