Hurricane Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 1 minute ago, oldmanfan said: Yeah but he consistently did well in preseason and earned a spot. Then he just does what he does in games. Just a mystery to me. A lot of qbs do... When the time is real, some aren't made for it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Someone needs to explain The Process to Peter. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 10 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Ok. They weren't going to spend a fortune in a guy knowing they were drafting a guy. So then you look at veterans like Anderson, McCarron, etc., etc. and I'm not defending it; I said above they should have brought another vet in earlier when they traded McCarron. So two questions for you: 1. Who was the standout(s) making them not all the same? 2. Have you learned to read? I can read just fine. In fact I read your post twice and it didn’t make any more sense the 2nd time. Head in the sand. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 21 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Can also rightfully Criticize going McCarron in offseason to begin with knowing you are about to draft a rookie. So your idea before draft is to put 2 5th round picks with a total what 5 games experience combined Should've just found a way to keep TT. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Yeah but he consistently did well in preseason and earned a spot. Then he just does what he does in games. Just a mystery to me. The easy answer is that the preseason has become entirely irrelevant as a means of evaluating talent. Teams are now benching their starters for whole games or not even dressing them at all. Peterman does great when he is picking apart rookie defenses or practice squad defenses. Not so much vs savvy vets in real games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, JoPar_v2 said: I can read just fine. In fact I read your post twice and it didn’t make any more sense the 2nd time. Head in the sand. You say the FA QBs weren't the same. Fine. Who would you have signed, knowing you weren't in the market for the high priced guys since you were drafting a guy? Yiu made the claim they weren't all the same. Back it up. 1 minute ago, Livinginthepast said: The easy answer is that the preseason has become entirely irrelevant as a means of evaluating talent. Teams are now benching their starters for whole games or not even dressing them at all. Peterman does great when he is picking apart rookie defenses or practice squad defenses. Not so much vs savvy vets in real games. Guess so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macaroni Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 I may be the only one alive that thinks the QB situation was handled as it should have been (with the exception that I think they should have brought in a "grey beard" QB to mentor Josh/Nate when they traded McCarron). Nates performance during OTAs, Training camp, and the preseason clearly won him the starting QB job. The aforementioned performance led everyone who gave an honest assessment to conclude his start against the Chargers was an aberration and not the norm. Allen is the new shiny toy who's staying no matter what. McCarron's unfortunate injury, and substandard on field performance led him to be expendable. Nates season opening start showed us that he is broken somehow and last years Charger start was the norm … he's great in practice … he stinks at game time (a fact further reinforced last week). Our "mentor" can't be expected to play only being on the team a few days …. so here we are. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 16, 2018 Author Share Posted October 16, 2018 11 minutes ago, Hurricane said: Because hes a 5th round pick that doesnt belong in the NFL and probably would of been cut already of he was on another team.. There is no chance--none--of Nate Peterman earning a roster spot on any team in the NFL based on what he has done in games to date. None! Here, he is the backup and maybe starter for a while, unless we go with Anderson, and I believe he's 67 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 22 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Who would you have brought in? Bradford? Hah! The FA available QBs were all about the same. And knowing they were going to draft a young guy no way they were going to spend huge dollars on someone like a Keenum. Bridgewater - Vet, played well in this league, had alot of starts. 4 minutes ago, Rico said: Should've just found a way to keep TT. I actually would have been ok with that now in Hindsight of how they poorly managed this position group 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Beane had rational reasons to make each of the decisions that he made. But with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight, we can see that Peter King is right. The QB position - in its entirety - was mismanaged. Given where we're at now, you can't argue the point. Here we are with our only healthy QBs being Nate Peterman and his sub-30 career passer rating, and mediocre journeyman, Derek Anderson, who's barely had a week to learn the offense. Feels a bit like '68 when the awesome trio of Dan Darragh, Ed Rutkowski and Kay Stepenson were in the QB room and each of them had starts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Bridgewater - Vet, played well in this league, had alot of starts. Not a FA. Would have been an in division trade, and would the Jets have done that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 McBeane believed in preseason results. They shoulda had more sense than that. In hindsight it is lunacy to keep Peterman as #1 when you have no clue if he can play under real game pressure (he failed miserably in his one road start, did ok in half a snow game). And they go with Allen at#2 when he also had no experience in real game action. When defenses actually game plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Not a FA. Would have been an in division trade, and would the Jets have done that? He was a FA. He signed a 1 year 6M dollar deal with NYJ this offseason. Want to try again? Chad Henne another one Matt Moore another one Hell Derek Anderson in Feb would have been better than Mid October but the Peterman Love from this Organization stopped getting anyone with real game experience under their belt in Buffalo BEFORE drafting the One QB that was always going to need time Edited October 16, 2018 by MAJBobby 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 35 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Thank you Peter King. McD and Company seat should be getting warmer Trust them not anymore 35 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Trading McCarron not a big deal to me. I thought he'd be the guy but showed nothing in preseason. But you can rightfully criticize for not getting the veteran backup in earlier. And peterman did, see the results now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Bills QB situation = dumpster fire. Of concern is that most of the posters here recognized the shortcomings with managements approach prior to the season. Something seems to be blinding their judgement. Whatever it is they need to adjust their thought process quickly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Steve Tasker was one of Petermans BIG supporters. I can't stand listening to him anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 A normal team coming off a playoff season would have kept Taylor, drafted Allen, and cut Peterman. But that is not very Billsy, 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: He was a FA. He signed a 1 year 6M dollar deal with NYJ this offseason. Want to try again? Chad Henne another one Matt Moore another one Hell Derek Anderson in Feb would have been better than Mid October And thus my statements above. They can be rightfully criticized for not bringing in a vet like these guys when they traded McCarron but none of these guys really stands out over the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: I actually would have been ok with that now in Hindsight of how they poorly managed this position group Not as bad as EJ & Tuel , but not good. I blame Peterman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Maybe they can “undo” the AJ trade and get him back. Then cut Peterman. I would be all for that. Seriously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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