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Hard to believe this was our WR group in 2014-2015 in comparison to the hot garbage we are fielding now.

 

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8 minutes ago, RPbillsfan said:

Hard to believe this was our WR group in 2014-2015 in comparison to the hot garbage we are fielding now.

 

Makes me ill

Yep, pretty tough to watch.

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Other than Watkins who was injured people thought that group was trash. 

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Watkins is on pace for 52 catches, 720 yards and 2 touchdowns for 14 million dollars a year.  For the life of me I do not understand the obsession with this guy.

 

Can someone please tell me what we won when these guys were on the team?  

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4 minutes ago, mattynh said:

Other than Watkins who was injured people thought that group was trash. 

I’d remove Woods from the trash group as well. Hogan is still JAG, and Goodwin improved after leaving BUF and dedicating himself to football. Fear of being out of the league can do that to you. 

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Just now, thenorthremembers said:

Watkins is on pace for 52 catches, 720 yards and 2 touchdowns for 14 million dollars a year.  For the life of me I do not understand the obsession with this guy.

 

Can someone please tell me what we won when these guys were on the team?  

Goodwin has also put up a massive 54 yards in 3 games.

 

Hogan has Brady and he can make any receiver inflate their numbers.

 

I'll give Woods the benefit here but we weren't going to be able to resign him IMO so you can't fault the FO for not retaining him.

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3 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

Watkins is on pace for 52 catches, 720 yards and 2 touchdowns for 14 million dollars a year.  For the life of me I do not understand the obsession with this guy.

 

Can someone please tell me what we won when these guys were on the team?  

They won nothing because they still had no QB. Now, they have no QB and  no WRs. 

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But as others have said they don’t play special teams.  McD could not use them here 🤔

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39 minutes ago, RPbillsfan said:

Hard to believe this was our WR group in 2014-2015 in comparison to the hot garbage we are fielding now.

 

Makes me ill

All could have been retained.  Self-inflicted wound.

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6 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

Watkins is on pace for 52 catches, 720 yards and 2 touchdowns for 14 million dollars a year.  For the life of me I do not understand the obsession with this guy.

 

Can someone please tell me what we won when these guys were on the team?  

We won the right to watch EJ Manuel waste their talents. Nothing else.  Watkins is a triple bust.  Under performed what the Bills gave for him. Same for the Raiders. Ditto for the Chiefs.  Hogan just might benefit from the goat. Goodwin s not that good. Woods would have been smart to keep. 

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7 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

Watkins is on pace for 52 catches, 720 yards and 2 touchdowns for 14 million dollars a year.  For the life of me I do not understand the obsession with this guy.

 

Can someone please tell me what we won when these guys were on the team?  

Weird that the best offenses and coaches seem to want Sammy.

 

and I love the point that if you don’t win a championship, every player is worthless.

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2 minutes ago, mannc said:

All could have been retained.  Self-inflicted wound.

Very true. Amazing that the best QB the Bills had with those WRs was Kyle Orton. 

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Those are all guys who run crisp routes, beat their man, and catch the ball. They can all blaze down the field and get yards after catch as well. Not a single one of them are "just another guy" including Hogan. 

 

Tom frickin Brady does not throw the football to "just another guy" 

 

If we cut Zay or KB tomorrow, the pats are not picking up either one and making them their next go-to guy. Zay and KB are "just another guy" not Hogan. Hogan is an excellent receiver. 

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1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Weird that the best offenses and coaches seem to want Sammy.

 

and I love the point that if you don’t win a championship, every player is worthless.

Strange isn’t it. McVay immediately traded for Cooks when they dropped out of the Watkins derby. He needed a deep threat for that offense to thrive. Reid was more than happy to sign him, even though he has an elite TE in Kelce plus Hill at WR. Haven’t noticed Watkins dropping passes or anything. 

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1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Weird that the best offenses and coaches seem to want Sammy.

 

and I love the point that if you don’t win a championship, every player is worthless.

He's on his third team in two years.   The best offensive coach in the league did want him you're right, for one year and then let him go on his way.

 

If you want to pay 14 million dollars for 52 catches and 2 touchdowns be my guest.  For what its worth, I wasnt only talking about championships.   Lest you forget the team everyone here is moaning about every week was in the playoffs last year. 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Talkin Proud said:

Those are all guys who run crisp routes, beat their man, and catch the ball. They can all blaze down the field and get yards after catch as well. Not a single one of them are "just another guy" including Hogan. 

 

Tom frickin Brady does not throw the football to "just another guy" 

 

If we cut Zay or KB tomorrow, the pats are not picking up either one and making them their next go-to guy. Zay and KB are "just another guy" not Hogan. Hogan is an excellent receiver. 

Tom Brady has thrown TDs to many JAGs in his career, as did Peyton Manning etc. 

4 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

He's on his third team in two years.   The best offensive coach in the league did want him you're right, for one year and then let him go on his way.

 

If you want to pay 14 million dollars for 52 catches and 2 touchdowns be my guest.  For what its worth, I wasnt only talking about championships.   Lest you forget the team everyone here is moaning about every week was in the playoffs last year. 

 

 

That’s the FA salary structure in the NFL. Not every player is on a rookie contract.Watkins had 8 TDs with the Rams last year, most of any Rams WR. The money got big, but McVay made sure he replaced Watkins with a guy that has a similar skill set. There’s a reason for that. 

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4 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

Strange isn’t it. McVay immediately traded for Cooks when they dropped out of the Watkins derby. He needed a deep threat for that offense to thrive. Reid was more than happy to sign him, even though he has an elite TE in Kelce plus Hill at WR. Haven’t noticed Watkins dropping passes or anything. 

It’s like good coaches know you need a bunch of threats in the passing games because it opens up the field.  Weird. 

4 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

He's on his third team in two years.   The best offensive coach in the league did want him you're right, for one year and then let him go on his way.

 

If you want to pay 14 million dollars for 52 catches and 2 touchdowns be my guest.  For what its worth, I wasnt only talking about championships.   Lest you forget the team everyone here is moaning about every week was in the playoffs last year. 

 

 

I would take what KC has every day of the week.  Part of the reason Hill gets so open is because KC is loaded with threats.  Watkins was their leading receiver vs the Jags.  Good receivers don’t need to have 100 yards to make an impact.

 

 

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Ya it’s pretty bad, would be way better than what we have now

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22 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

Watkins is on pace for 52 catches, 720 yards and 2 touchdowns for 14 million dollars a year.  For the life of me I do not understand the obsession with this guy.

 

Can someone please tell me what we won when these guys were on the team?  

Overrated!  He will be on a new team again next year.  Woods is a way better receiver.

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Just now, Ray Finkel said:

Overrated!  He will be on a new team again next year.  Woods is a way better receiver.

Probably why Woods is making more. 

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21 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

Watkins is on pace for 52 catches, 720 yards and 2 touchdowns for 14 million dollars a year.  For the life of me I do not understand the obsession with this guy.

 

Can someone please tell me what we won when these guys were on the team?  

Future first ballot HOF left tackle Joe Thomas played his whole career having never been to the playoffs.  Maybe "what did we win with these players?" is a faulty argument.

 

Hogan, Watkins, and Woods play on the 3 best teams in the league right now for whatever that's worth.

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Just now, Jauronimo said:

Future first ballot HOF left tackle Joe Thomas played his whole career having never been to the playoffs.  Maybe "what did we win with these players?" is a faulty argument.

 

Hogan, Watkins, and Woods play on the 3 best teams in the league right now for whatever that's worth.

Joe Thomas?

 

That guy played for the Browns. He's !@#$ing useless. 

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