LFC24 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 (edited) Simple as. You don't draft a project QB and expect him to develop under a conservative defensive minded coach who has literally no idea how to evaluate QB's. Look at all the top young QB's in the league. They have smart offensive minded coaches behind them (either HC or OC/QB coach). Mcdermott has no idea how to assemble an offense that is sustainable in today's NFL. He is the sole reason why Peterman is still on this team. His ability to evaluate that side of the ball is abysmal. We will never see Allen progress under Mcdermotts coaching staff. Sure he is a decent defensive coach but in order for this franchise to move forward with Allen Mcdermott needs to be replaced. How do we expect Allen to learn with such poor coaching? Who even on this staff has a history of developing QB's? This franchise continues to draft QB's and watches them fail b/c they didn't bother to bring in a decent QB guy to help. History is repeating itself with Allen (just like Losman, Edwards, EJ) Edited October 15, 2018 by LFC24 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gugny Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, LFC24 said: Simple as. You don't draft a project QB and expect him to develop under a conservative defensive minded coach who has literally no idea how to evaluate QB's. Look at all the top young QB's in the league. They have smart offensive minded coaches behind them (either HC or OC/QB coach). Mcdermott has no idea how to assemble an offense that is sustainable in today's NFL. He is the sole reason why Peterman is still on this team. His ability to evaluate that side of the ball is abysmal. We will never see Allen progress under Mcdermotts coaching staff. Sure he is a decent defensive coach but in order for this franchise to move forward with Allen Mcdermott needs to be replaced. Poor Sam Darnold. Poor Josh Rosen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 The hot takes and overreaction on this board in the days following a loss are cringe worthy. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midwest1981 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 (edited) We may come to find out that McDermott is the Tyrod Taylor of coaches: he can capably take you to a point but to get beyond that point somebody else might need to do the job, at least in an offense-driven sport that isn’t turning back the clock ever again. McDermott has demonstrated that he’s quite far from being a bad coach and much closer to being a good one- I’d even call him a “good one.” But much as Tyrod’s limitations became glaring and devastating so are becoming McDermott’s relative to the offensive side of the ball. We’ll have to see what the Bills do this offseason first. But McDermott has a lot to prove in terms of offensive player- and perhaps coaching- evaluation. Edited October 15, 2018 by Midwest1981 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 So, we need another Josh Allen thread 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 I'd comment negatively on this premise, but that's actively discouraged around here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 His in game coaching is not very good going on 2 years now....this team completely neglected the offense from the get go is why we are ranked dead last in offense and will be when this season ends.....lets see if this regime can resurrect the offense......it can only go up right? Cant get much worse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, mead107 said: So, we need another Josh Allen thread We need a couple of G's, a C and a RT .... ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Any updates on Allen's elbow. That didn't look good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 25 minutes ago, LFC24 said: Simple as. You don't draft a project QB and expect him to develop under a conservative defensive minded coach who has literally no idea how to evaluate QB's. Look at all the top young QB's in the league. They have smart offensive minded coaches behind them (either HC or OC/QB coach). Mcdermott has no idea how to assemble an offense that is sustainable in today's NFL. He is the sole reason why Peterman is still on this team. His ability to evaluate that side of the ball is abysmal. We will never see Allen progress under Mcdermotts coaching staff. Sure he is a decent defensive coach but in order for this franchise to move forward with Allen Mcdermott needs to be replaced. How do we expect Allen to learn with such poor coaching? Who even on this staff has a history of developing QB's? This franchise continues to draft QB's and watches them fail b/c they didn't bother to bring in a decent QB guy to help. History is repeating itself with Allen (just like Losman, Edwards, EJ) I know what you are saying and to a certain point can agree. You look at the way Daboll offenses sputter over his past time as an OC, you look at a QB coach that is known more for WRs. A defensive mindes HC. It's tough to see that group being successful with a project QB. That said, we dont know how well they coach. We aren't in the QB room. At practice. They may do well. Time Will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 My biggest reason for wanting to fire McDermott is this. He won’t develop Allen / any other QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, The_Dude said: My biggest reason for wanting to fire McDermott is this. He won’t develop Allen / any other QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 It's actually a maddening combination of factors. McDermott knows little about offense. That is abundantly clear by several mind-boggling choices. But worse, Daboll has zero experience in successfully grooming a young QB - AND - McDermott hired a QB coach who not only never developed a young QB but is not even a QB coach. And they surrounded him with Nate Peterman. So HC, plus OC plus QB coach plus no veteran QB (until now) with no history or experience in doing the one thing crucial to a young raw talented rookie QB is criminal. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 45 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: The hot takes and overreaction on this board in the days following a loss are cringe worthy. I'm not really a big fan of the whole "pitchforks on a monday after a loss crowd" ... but consecutive 80 yard passing games in 2018 is a hell of a lot more cringe worthy to me. 4 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: It's actually a maddening combination of factors. McDermott knows little about offense. That is abundantly clear by several mind-boggling choices. But worse, Daboll has zero experience in successfully grooming a young QB - AND - McDermott hired a QB coach who not only never developed a young QB but is not even a QB coach. And they surrounded him with Nate Peterman. So HC, plus OC plus QB coach plus no veteran QB (until now) with no history or experience in doing the one thing crucial to a young raw talented rookie QB is criminal. The creepy thing is I actually think McDermott thinks he knows what he's doing. He strikes me as a stubborn guy. Great leaders are willing to look to others for advice and are usually masters of delegation and empowering others around them to be successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 These defensive minded coaches should never be allowed to coach a team that doesn't have a 5 year veteran franchise QB. They'll never develop a young QB. Look at what defensive genius Belichick did in NE. He took this young QB, was very conservative with him the 1st year he started & ruined the guy. It's been 17 years since anyone remembers that kid Tom Brady that Belichick made disappear. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 48 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: The hot takes and overreaction on this board in the days following a loss are cringe worthy. yep if we beat Indy next week, all will be well for eight days...... lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Just now, RiotAct said: yep if we beat Indy next week, all will be well for eight days...... lol No, it won't. People will still ceaselessly complain about something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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