nucci Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 15 minutes ago, Wyo_Bills Fan said: How do you sit someone "In the Bench?" kinda like getting "on" the plane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 34 minutes ago, The_Dude said: We’re gonna sit him in the bench to hide our *****up is basically what they’re saying. Not everything is a conspiracy. He is hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 17 minutes ago, The_Dude said: Yeah? Well if I were running the show we’d have Mahomes and Watkins on the team and we’d be a lot better. So there’s that. Yes if only they'd hired you random internet poster then all our problems would be solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Vic Carucci Verified account @viccarucci 3m3 minutes ago Can confirm #Bills QB Josh Allen has an elbow sprain, as reported by @john_wawrow & @MikeGarafolo. League source says Allen is "week to week," as Sean McDermott said Monday. Source also says Allen's playing status for Sunday will become clear as the week goes on. 1 reply 5 retweets 9 likes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The_Dude Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Yes if only they'd hired you random internet poster then all our problems would be solved. Sadly, that’s correct. That’s how bad the Bills are and have been. They’re awful. 23 minutes ago, Wyo_Bills Fan said: How do you sit someone "In the Bench?" Im sure you’ll figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Since I don't trust anyone from a team when they talk about injuries, it's worth posting this. Sprains mean different things depending on the grade. If there is an injury to the UCL it is often classified as a sprain. There are three grades of sprain: grade 1, 2 and 3. A grade 1 sprain means that the ligament is stretched but no tear is felt. A grade 2 sprain indicates the ligament is stretched and a partial tear could be present. A grade 3 sprain indicates there is a complete tear of the ligament. https://www.beaconortho.com/blog/ucl-injuries-elbow/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 23 minutes ago, The_Dude said: Yeah? Well if I were running the show we’d have Mahomes and Watkins on the team and we’d be a lot better. So there’s that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 1 minute ago, no name said: Ya know, I’ve realized I don’t work for OBD. They’d be good if I did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Just now, The_Dude said: Ya know, I’ve realized I don’t work for OBD. They’d be good if I did. You were a Bortles guy, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Also: Ulnar collateral ligament injury of the elbow is a sprain (tear) of one of the ligaments on the inner side of the elbow. ... Prognosis The UCL usually does not heal sufficiently on its own with non-operative treatment. To return to throwing, surgery is often necessary. http://www.csosortho.com/ulnar-collateral-ligament-sprain.html We just don't know what the prognosis is, and anyone claiming they do is full of it. The team may want him to play and the agent may want him to get the surgery. That's another factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Also: Ulnar collateral ligament injury of the elbow is a sprain (tear) of one of the ligaments on the inner side of the elbow. ... Prognosis The UCL usually does not heal sufficiently on its own with non-operative treatment. To return to throwing, surgery is often necessary. http://www.csosortho.com/ulnar-collateral-ligament-sprain.html We just don't know what the prognosis is, and anyone claiming they do is full of it. The team may want him to play and the agent may want him to get the surgery. That's another factor. Worth noting: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1058274610002466 "A total of 10 cases of UCL injuries in quarterbacks were identified starting in 1994. Nine cases were treated nonoperatively and the mean return to play was 26.4 days." Edited October 16, 2018 by thebandit27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Just now, thebandit27 said: Worth noting: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1058274610002466 "A total of 10 cases of UCL injuries in quarterbacks were identified starting in 1994. Nine cases were treated nonoperatively and the mean return to play was 26.4 days." Good to know. Excellent data, and it's quite promising! Still, we don't know the extent of the tear if there is one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Good to know. Excellent data, and it's quite promising! Still, we don't know the extent of the tear if there is one. This one came in from a trainer early this year: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5825334/ ^it provides more context to the study I linked above, specifically: "The high prevalence of trauma-related UCL injury is also supported by a small series from Kenter and colleagues [27]. Nine of the ten UCL injuries in Dodson’s series [28] were managed non-operatively, including three athletes who had complete tears. Not surprisingly, athletes with a higher grade injury required a longer time to return to competition. Quarterbacks with a grade I–II injury returned around 7 days, whereas grade III injuries has a mean of 67 days to return to play [28]. There is a tremendous paucity of data on UCL reconstruction in the professional quarterback, with most case series consisting of only one–two athletes [28, 31, 32]." It makes sense that they'd call him week-to-week, since based on the above it could be anywhere from zero to 10 weeks depending upon severity. Edited October 16, 2018 by thebandit27 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 8 minutes ago, Success said: You were a Bortles guy, right? Yup. I thought he was the best QB in that draft and I knew we needed a QB. I wasn’t right on both accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, The_Dude said: Yup. I thought he was the best QB in that draft and I knew we needed a QB. I wasn’t right on both accounts. Who did you like in this past draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 19 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Since I don't trust anyone from a team when they talk about injuries, it's worth posting this. Sprains mean different things depending on the grade. If there is an injury to the UCL it is often classified as a sprain. There are three grades of sprain: grade 1, 2 and 3. A grade 1 sprain means that the ligament is stretched but no tear is felt. A grade 2 sprain indicates the ligament is stretched and a partial tear could be present. A grade 3 sprain indicates there is a complete tear of the ligament. https://www.beaconortho.com/blog/ucl-injuries-elbow/ Thanks. That's pretty strange that a complete tear of a ligament would still be termed a "sprain." I would assume that Josh has a 1 or some type of "partial tear" would likely be included in these reports. Just an assumption though. 17 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Also: Ulnar collateral ligament injury of the elbow is a sprain (tear) of one of the ligaments on the inner side of the elbow. ... Prognosis The UCL usually does not heal sufficiently on its own with non-operative treatment. To return to throwing, surgery is often necessary. http://www.csosortho.com/ulnar-collateral-ligament-sprain.html We just don't know what the prognosis is, and anyone claiming they do is full of it. The team may want him to play and the agent may want him to get the surgery. That's another factor. Hard to imagine at this stage of his career, with this team in this situation, that they would want him to play before they were positive from the doctors that they were not risking further or long term injury. I totally believe teams force players to play when they are not ready for their own purposes, but this one seems highly, highly unlikely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 25 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Thank you, Vic, for providing all the information we knew already. ”My sources have confirmed what other, better reporters already said yesterday.” 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 16, 2018 Author Share Posted October 16, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Wayne Arnold said: Thank you, Vic, for providing all the information we knew already. ”My sources have confirmed what other, better reporters already said yesterday.” My favorite move is when rapaport quote retweets something from Schefter or another competitor with “This is true” Edited October 16, 2018 by YoloinOhio 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Just now, YoloinOhio said: My favorite move is when rapaport quote retweets something with “This is true” I like when he throws schitt at a wall, it boomerangs right back in his face, and while wearing said schitt, then he says new reports say this didn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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