The House of Saud at it again (Khashoggi disappearance)

[DC Tom]

[3rdnlng]

15 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Most Trump supporters are probably saying the same thing. But if our foreign policy has no moral basis anymore, what's the point of shoveling gobs and gobs of money into the military now? What's the point? What are we defending if its not the Democratic order in the world? 

The right to kill babies in the womb?

[Tiberius]

3 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

The right to kill babies in the womb?

Ya, you sure seem like a person that would be morally upset by that. 

 

Anti-Women.com 

[TakeYouToTasker]

3 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

The right to kill babies in the womb?

 

...

 

He's gone and done it...

 

I didn't think it was possible to be that big of a moron, but here we are.

 

Sometimes he still surprises me.

[3rdnlng]

5 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

...

 

He's gone and done it...

 

I didn't think it was possible to be that big of a moron, but here we are.

 

Sometimes he still surprises me.

It's amazing isn't it? I could have just as easily answered "moldy cheese" and he would have responded.

[TakeYouToTasker]

16 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

It's amazing isn't it? I could have just as easily answered "moldy cheese" and he would have responded.

 

It's similar to the feeling I get when my wife, whom I've been with for decades, does something that makes me shake my head at how adorable she is even after all these years together.

 

Only instead of being uplifting and romantic, it's tragic and face palm inducing.

[Tiberius]

Quote

 

"For the record, I have no financial interests in Saudi Arabia (or Russia, for that matter). Any suggestion that I have is just more FAKE NEWS (of which there is plenty)!"

Quote

 

the president tweeted.

 

There it is, he does have financial interests there! He never tells the truth 

[Wagon Circler]

On 10/11/2018 at 11:49 AM, B-Man said:

Ben is correct, there is a lot more to be uncovered here.

 

 

Unfortunately, our U.S. 'media' will probably toss out a few ridiculous takes...............like this:

 

Chris Hayes jumps ALL THE SHARKS with INSANE take on Saudis and Trump

 

You know the face you make when you sniff the milk because you’re not sure if it’s still good or not and you can tell by the smell it’s not? Yup, just made that face.

We know Chris Hayes has always been sort of out there for a long while but WTAF with this tweet?

 

 

 

Did he really think implying the president would take bribes from the Saudis so they could murder his critics is even sane, let alone appropriate?

Trump announced at a rally that he was taking massive bribes from the Saudis. Why bother to hide it?

[TakeYouToTasker]

11 minutes ago, Wagon Circler said:

Trump announced at a rally that he was taking massive bribes from the Saudis. Why bother to hide it?

 

Source?

 

Nevermind, I found it.  It was a statement by Chris Hayes of MSNBC who made a baseless charge without evidence; tweeting:  “Would be nice to definitively rule out that the Saudis are paying the president massive bribes in exchange for tacit approval for murdering critics!”

 

You are so ***** stupid it hurts.

Edited October 16, 2018 by TakeYouToTasker

[Wagon Circler]

"I love the Saudis! They give me 40 million, 50 million for an apartment. Why wouldn't I love them?"

I hope you choke on it.

[Koko78]

30 minutes ago, Wagon Circler said:

"I love the Saudis! They give me 40 million, 50 million for an apartment. Why wouldn't I love them?"

I hope you choke on it.

 

Uh, you do understand that Trump's main business (besides branding) was in real estate, right?

 

Or are you just trying to be a disingenuous asshat like the rest of the dipschiff brigade around here?

Edited October 16, 2018 by Koko78

[3rdnlng]

25 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

 

Uh, you do understand that Trump's main business (besides branding) was in real estate, right?

 

Or are you just trying to be a disingenuous asshat like the rest of the dipschiff brigade around here?

He doesn't need to try.

[DC Tom]

1 hour ago, Wagon Circler said:

Trump announced at a rally that he was taking massive bribes from the Saudis. Why bother to hide it?

 

When a private person sells a property to another private person, that's a business transaction, not bribery.  

 

Interesting to note that particular quote was from mid-2015, when he was finishing up reducing his business interests in Saudi Arabia to almost nothing.  Every report of Trump's "financial ties to Saudi Arabia" can't quote anything more recent than three years ago, save Saudi travelers not on government business staying in the NY Trump Hotel.

 

And once again...if you apply consistently to others the standard to which you hold Trump, Clinton has much stronger financial ties to Kingdom.  You won't, of course...on the basis of "That's different, so shut up!"

[TakeYouToTasker]

1 hour ago, Wagon Circler said:

"I love the Saudis! They give me 40 million, 50 million for an apartment. Why wouldn't I love them?"

I hope you choke on it.

 

Good grief, you really are that dumb.  

 

You're categorizing the President's legitimate and reported (to the IRS) business dealings dating back to 1995 as bribes?

 

Being that stupid should hurt.  Does it hurt?

 

 

[DC Tom]

Just now, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

Being that stupid should hurt.  Does it hurt?

 

 

 

Not nearly enough.  

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

12 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

Good grief, you really are that dumb.  

 

You're categorizing the President's legitimate and reported (to the IRS) business dealings dating back to 1995 as bribes?

 

Being that stupid should hurt.  Does it hurt?

 

 

It's the "Hide in Plain Sight" long game.  Create a paper trail of legitimate business transactions, reported in great detail and scrutinized by regulatory agencies, with documentation accessible by all, all while shouting to the roof tops how successful a transaction it was. 

 

 Btw, I watched an interview with Brennan and NBC news this morning and walked away thinking how odd the disappearance of this journalist seems given the political landscape. Every jamoke on the planet is aware of the presence of security cameras and high tech listening devices, yet the Saudi hit team was tracked from th le moment they landed in Turkey, to the moment they walked in the building, the moment they left the building with clear and obvious evidence Khasoggi never left? 

 

Brennan stated emphatically that the Saudi's murdered this poor guy, as the interviewers fawned over his experience and knowledge about "that part of the world". He included the obligatory reference to Trump being in their pocket, but also waxed philosophically about the need for continued relations with the country in spite of this event with breadcrumbs that even Hansel and Gretel could follow back to the Saudis. 

 

All the while, i kept wondering if NBC would ask him how tuned in he was to Intel given his recent loss of security clearance, but that apparently didn't occur to NBC. At a minimum, Brennan is a reckless, reckless man by stating emphatically that the Saudi's murdered Khasoggi, The End. 

[4merper4mer]

21 hours ago, 3rdnlng said:

It's amazing isn't it? I could have just as easily answered "moldy cheese" and he would have responded.

You've hit on the crux of the matter. Some people think fetuses are babies while others think they are moldy cheese.  The two groups will never agree.  

[B-Man]

Why are the media so interested in the Khashoggi death over so many other deaths? by Jack Hellner

Original Article       .

[Koko78]

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Pro-government Turkish daily Yeni Safak reported it had heard audio recordings of Khashoggi being tortured during an interrogation, having his fingers cut off and then being decapitated.

It said al-Otaibi can be heard on one tape saying during Khashoggi's torture: "Do this outside. You are going to get me in trouble."

The daily reported that in another tape, an unknown individual tells Otaibi: "If you want to live when you return to Saudi Arabia, be quiet!"

https://www.yahoo.com/news/pompeo-arrives-talks-turkey-khashoggi-085919842.html

 

Seems legit.

 

Sort of like a professional hit squad being tracked from the moment they landed in Turkey until the moment they lifted off.

Edited October 17, 2018 by Koko78

[Albwan]

23 hours ago, 3rdnlng said:

It's amazing isn't it? I could have just as easily answered "moldy cheese" and he would have responded.

Hes got to come back hard, his cult was stymied badly at the warren fiasco,

not much to be able to spin there.

Edited October 17, 2018 by Albwan

[Deranged Rhino]

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

I have a guess:

[Benjamin Franklin]

So let's get this straight from Storytime Greggy:

 

Bush, Clinton, Iran, Obama, Turkey, are all part of some blame game narrative in this thread.

 

And if I read it closer, he probably blames Tom Donahue's baby blood drinking as well. 

 

MBS's connections flew in and out of Turkey in 24 hours, and went in and out of the embassy before and after Khassioggi's entrance. But MBS had nothing to do with it.

 

That's Hollywood baby! 

 

Trump touting Saudi Arabia's ordering of weapons from the US ("it creates jobs!") and linking this to Kavanaugh in defense of Saudi Arabia's narrative is rich stuff. I would think this would feed the Military Industrial Complex storyline. You're missing the obvious conspiracy Storytime. Get on it!

 

Diplomatically, POTUS will probably let this slide because he wants the $$/jobs flowing into the US and Saudi Arabia is the current enemy of some of our hotter enemies. But can we stop with the nonsense at some point and just accept that we're in league with a bad guy, again. 

[Deranged Rhino]

10 minutes ago, Benjamin Franklin said:

So let's get this straight from Storytime Greggy:

 

All I've said in this thread is to wait for more information that doesn't come solely from Erdogan. 

 

... Well, and pointed out your dishonesty and rush to believe a dictator who purged and imprisoned hundreds of journalists just last year in an authoritarian crackdown. 

 

But go on...

 

 

12 minutes ago, Benjamin Franklin said:

Bush, Clinton, Iran, Obama, Turkey, are all part of some blame game narrative in this thread.

 

And if I read it closer, he probably blames Tom Donahue's baby blood drinking as well. 

 

I didn't mention any of those names. But for Turkey. 

 

You're off to a DYNAMITE start so far  

 

12 minutes ago, Benjamin Franklin said:

MBS's connections flew in and out of Turkey in 24 hours, and went in and out of the embassy before and after Khassioggi's entrance. But MBS had nothing to do with it.

 

That's Hollywood baby! 

 

I didn't say he had nothing to do with it. I said there's reason to be suspect of information coming solely from Turkey and Iran - both who have a vested interest in splintering the US/Saudi relationship. Specifically I said MBS is an existential threat to Islamic fascism - which he is. 

 

But because you are DESPERATE to believe Iranian and Turkish (read: Islamic Fascist) propaganda - especially if it makes Trump look bad - you ignore what I actually say and instead fill in the blanks in your own version of prog-fascist Mad Libbs. 

 

15 minutes ago, Benjamin Franklin said:

Trump touting Saudi Arabia's ordering of weapons from the US ("it creates jobs!") and linking this to Kavanaugh in defense of Saudi Arabia's narrative is rich stuff. I would think this would feed the Military Industrial Complex storyline. You're missing the obvious conspiracy Storytime. Get on it!

 

More stuff I haven't brought up in this thread. 

 

If you want me to tell you a story, I will. You seem desperate for it based on this post so far. I know you're obsessed with me, but this is next level now...

 

16 minutes ago, Benjamin Franklin said:

Diplomatically, POTUS will probably let this slide because he wants the $$/jobs flowing into the US and Saudi Arabia is the current enemy of some of our hotter enemies. But can we stop with the nonsense at some point and just accept that we're in league with a bad guy, again. 

 

Again? Is the US Saudi relationship new?

 

Your blistering ignorance of the geopolitical reality and situation in the ME is on display for all to see right now with the last paragraph. 

[Dante]

On 10/16/2018 at 7:52 AM, Tiberius said:

Most Trump supporters are probably saying the same thing. But if our foreign policy has no moral basis anymore, what's the point of shoveling gobs and gobs of money into the military now? What's the point? What are we defending if its not the Democratic order in the world? 

You actually think barry,  the clinton and bush crime syndicates gave/give a shite about freedom and democracy? "Moral basis" lol. Like that ever existed in our foreign policy. WW2 I guess.

Edited October 17, 2018 by Dante

[Foxx]

On 10/11/2018 at 11:36 AM, Benjamin Franklin said:

Might be buried in another topic but I'm pulling it forward as I've not seen it. The US's pet (whether it's Obama's "bow" or Kushner's buddy MBS) Saudi Arabia may have Dexter-ed journalist Jamal Khashoggi. 

 

We don't have an ambassador in Turkey or Saudi Arabia. The CIA could issue a conclusion shortly. 

 

It will be interesting to see how this plays out. MBS denies any knowledge, which of course is crap, and he will have to change his tune shortly. Kushner has been pushing MBS as a US ally. Saudi Arabia is the first country Trump visited as POTUS. The Trump State Department approved a nearly 700M dollar arms deal to Saudi Arabia in March, so that's in the cauldron as well. 

 

The story is summed up well here. 

 

Developing.

yeah, i don't know that I would trust the BBC for a source anymore than I would trust the NYT as a source. both are nothing more than propagandists for the cabal.

 

if you would like some real understanding about what is happening and items that the propagandists won't report or spin, head on over to Moon of Alabama. scroll down to the Oct 14th piece and work your way forward.

 

of course as with all information, add it to the pot and stir for your discernment.

Edited October 17, 2018 by Foxx

[Benjamin Franklin]

On 10/12/2018 at 4:09 PM, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Nothing fishy here - or connected to the larger events discussed in the Deep State thread: 

 

 

Are you sure you didn't mention Clinton and Bush in this thread Storytime Greggy? ^^^^^^^^^^

 

Wrong. AGAIN. 

 

And as for you mentioning Obama, there's a little scroll thingy on the side of your screen. Slide it upwards. 

 

Try to keep your conspiracies straight at least for the sake of cohesiveness. 

 

How's your research into the Hyperspace Research Institute going? Been to St. Thomas to visit your guy yet? 

14 hours ago, Dante said:

You actually think barry,  the clinton and bush crime syndicates gave/give a shite about freedom and democracy?

2

 

I do. And I think Trump does too. But it's only one of many goals and justifications to help drive our economy and keep our country safe.

 

But we dance with many devils to achieve it, and there's no reason to enjoy it or call the devils out when something like this happens. 

Edited October 18, 2018 by Benjamin Franklin

[GG]

I still don't understand why suddenly there's an outcry over KSA's killing of one person, when people closed their eyes when a half dozen Saudi citizens flew missiles into the Pentagon and wired up WTC with explosives.  Or was it because it was really Mossad, so the links got buried?

[Koko78]

45 minutes ago, GG said:

I still don't understand why suddenly there's an outcry over KSA's killing of one person, when people closed their eyes when a half dozen Saudi citizens flew missiles into the Pentagon and wired up WTC with explosives.  Or was it because it was really Mossad, so the links got buried?

 

Well, we have neither seen pictures of the bin Laden family taken in Saudi Arabia, nor pictures of Sophia Lauren in Australia, so it must have been @DC Tom's Mossad buddies attacking us with hypersonic cruise missiles to increase the value of the MIC stocks in their portfolios. WAKE UP SHEEPLE!

[DC Tom]

50 minutes ago, GG said:

I still don't understand why suddenly there's an outcry over KSA's killing of one person, when people closed their eyes when a half dozen Saudi citizens flew missiles into the Pentagon and wired up WTC with explosives.  Or was it because it was really Mossad, so the links got buried?

 

Because the royal family murdering someone and a bunch of schmucks committing terrorism aren't the same thing.

[GG]

Just now, DC Tom said:

 

Because the royal family murdering someone and a bunch of schmucks committing terrorism aren't the same thing.

 

A bunch schmucks who were funded by an element of the royal family, would be the same thing

[/dev/null]

1 hour ago, GG said:

I still don't understand why suddenly there's an outcry over KSA's killing of one person, when people closed their eyes when a half dozen Saudi citizens flew missiles into the Pentagon and wired up WTC with explosives.  Or was it because it was really Mossad, so the links got buried?

To paraphrase a Progressive trailblazer:

 

A single death is a tragedy.  Thousands of deaths is a statistic.

[Doc]

Let Turkey deal with it.

[DC Tom]

52 minutes ago, GG said:

 

A bunch schmucks who were funded by an element of the royal family, would be the same thing

 

Not when the royal family is so factionalized.

[GG]

7 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

Not when the royal family is so factionalized.

So which faction killed Khashoggi?

[DC Tom]

Just now, GG said:

So which faction killed Khashoggi?

 

Don't know.

 

Don't even know of the Saudis killed him.  It basically comes down to who you believe: Erdogan or the House of Saud.  And I don't put any stock in the credibility of either.

[GG]

1 minute ago, DC Tom said:

 

Don't know.

 

Don't even know of the Saudis killed him.  It basically comes down to who you believe: Erdogan or the House of Saud.  And I don't put any stock in the credibility of either.

 

Correct, which is why I'm dumbfounded at the outrage directed at this particular possible act by the KSA, as opposed to anything they've done over the last 40 years

[The_Dude]

Haj kills Haj. Who cares? Nothing to see here. 

 

We should encourage this sort of thing ya know. 

[TakeYouToTasker]

2 minutes ago, GG said:

 

Correct, which is why I'm dumbfounded at the outrage directed at this particular possible act by the KSA, as opposed to anything they've done over the last 40 years