corta765 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: Well they still weren't good. I only saw about 10-12 plays in the All 22 but there were plays to be made that we missed. It was execution. You have to capitalize when you have the opportunities....especially when you don't have many. This game was mostly on Peterman IMO. Which is why so much is derived from the QB on how a game goes. Lesser QB's have outperformed talent because of moving the offense and capitalizing in some fashion on those opportunities. This game was a team effort in collapsing but the majority of the blame starts with NP. What has become a theme is that any time with the Bills McD's offense is non-existent, if the defense is not perfect the game is over fast and typically a blow out. That is the sole reason why Taylor leaving hurts, he didn't turn the ball over. He didn't do a lot of other things but at least things were safe. The Bills as currently constructed cannot lose the TO battle and have any hope of winning the game. They just don't have enough right now. Edited September 11, 2018 by corta765 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeSomeProcess Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Like I’ve been saying people dogging Star aren’t looking at the film. He did a good job and is nice addition. Just need the other line to make plays. His ability gives the other players a chance too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BBills88 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 (edited) The all 22 was not as bad as the game looked in live action, still the Oline is a mess and we shot ourselves in the foot plenty of times. I really hope they will get rid of Castillo and bring in some new OLINE 2 Guards and a Center or a Guard and Center. This team needs to play with a nasty attitude, to hell with that good boy Superman image. We need that grimmey do what it takes to win games Batman menatlity. Edited September 11, 2018 by BBills88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 4 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: Peterman left plays on the field. The offensive line wasn't very good but they gave him time to throw more than we thought. Bad decisions with the football. Jeremy White stated he saw that separation stat for week 1 and our WR's actually got pretty good separation in this game. Sal stated and I agree after watching that Peterman predetermined where he is throwing the ball before the snap based on what he sees and then does it regardless of what the coverage ends up being. That might work well in the preseason whee what you see is what you get when they are being vanilla, but that doesn't work so well when coverages are being disguised and players are moving around right before the snap of the ball to different spots on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Just now, matter2003 said: Sal stated and I agree after watching that Peterman predetermined where he is throwing the ball before the snap based on what he sees and then does it regardless of what the coverage ends up being. That might work well in the preseason whee what you see is what you get when they are being vanilla, but that doesn't work so well when coverages are being disguised and players are moving around right before the snap of the ball to different spots on the field. Yep...I absolutely agree with this too. If things don't play out how he thought it would, he is lost. It's disappointing because going through progressions was supposed to be his strength, especially since he came from a pro style offense. The concerns were he get too aggressive fitting balls in (we've seen that) and his lack of arm strength. But now, everything is a concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Sal stated and I agree after watching that Peterman predetermined where he is throwing the ball before the snap based on what he sees and then does it regardless of what the coverage ends up being. I've been saying this since 2017!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Peterman's development is no further along than Allen's. Allen's natural gifts will result in a handful of big plays. With Allen's arm and athletic ability Buffalo needs to use Dimarco and go to 1 and 2 Wr sets. Kahri Lee I would activate and use on first and second down to assist the run game. They have the ability to spread out Clay, Croom and Thomas. Try to get the defense to over commit and to the run, use tempo and spread them out. If they go small pack it in and run the ball. I believe they have the personal, it would play into a young QBs favor. Easy reads max pass pro. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 19 minutes ago, Mat68 said: Peterman's development is no further along than Allen's. Allen's natural gifts will result in a handful of big plays. With Allen's arm and athletic ability Buffalo needs to use Dimarco and go to 1 and 2 Wr sets. Kahri Lee I would activate and use on first and second down to assist the run game. They have the ability to spread out Clay, Croom and Thomas. Try to get the defense to over commit and to the run, use tempo and spread them out. If they go small pack it in and run the ball. I believe they have the personal, it would play into a young QBs favor. Easy reads max pass pro. You are sort of describing Big Ben's first year offense. Makes sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 11, 2018 Author Share Posted September 11, 2018 18 minutes ago, Mat68 said: Peterman's development is no further along than Allen's. Allen's natural gifts will result in a handful of big plays. With Allen's arm and athletic ability Buffalo needs to use Dimarco and go to 1 and 2 Wr sets. Kahri Lee I would activate and use on first and second down to assist the run game. They have the ability to spread out Clay, Croom and Thomas. Try to get the defense to over commit and to the run, use tempo and spread them out. If they go small pack it in and run the ball. I believe they have the personal, it would play into a young QBs favor. Easy reads max pass pro. Sunday in BAL showed exactly that with still no poise, pocket presence, or ability to manipulate coverage and make accurate throws with timing and anticipation despite the mirage of preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 5 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Only preseason with no rush. Game is too big and fast for him. His pocket poise is nonexistent. Arm isnt good enough. im sure he’s a great locker room guy though. Maybe he can be the QB coach. what pocket ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 15 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: what pocket ? It was a hot LZ for sure but even when clean he was incompetent. Time to kill this experiment of the 5th round trick shot artist. Even the last regime was smart enough not to start Alex Tanney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 6 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: The lack of effort there from Benjamin -- just wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: It was a hot LZ for sure but even when clean he was incompetent. Time to kill this experiment of the 5th round trick shot artist. Even the last regime was smart enough not to start Alex Tanney I agree he was having a rough outing, and as the day went worse he seemed flummoxed. Likely why they pulled him. But if you are going to drop your guys into a hot LZ you better get up some protection and hunker down, after knocking out the incoming for a couple. If Bills had made a couple plays early on ? Ravens would not have teed off. 1 minute ago, dave mcbride said: The lack of effort there from Benjamin -- just wow. It remains a concern. or maybe he is that stiff? Or maybe he is not smart enough to protect a ball he cannot pull in. Wrs also have to defend the ball in the air at times. I have not been a fan of KB is is supposedly healthy this year. This game reinforced my dislike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: I agree he was having a rough outing, and as the day went worse he seemed flummoxed. Likely why they pulled him. But if you are going to drop your guys into a hot LZ you better get up some protection and hunker down, after knocking out the incoming for a couple. If Bills had made a couple plays early on ? Ravens would not have teed off. It remains a concern. or maybe he is that stiff? Or maybe he is not smart enough to protect a ball he cannot pull in. Wrs also have to defend the ball in the air at times. I have not been a fan of KB is is supposedly healthy this year. This game reinforced my dislike. I've been saying this for a year -- Benjamin runs a 4.8 on a good day and a 4.9 on a regular day. He is not good. Plus he's not bright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 1 minute ago, dave mcbride said: I've been saying this for a year -- Benjamin runs a 4.8 on a good day and a 4.9 on a regular day. He is not good. Plus he's not bright. I do hate to go there. But does not seem like a mensa candidate. he would be a great red zone target if he had decent hands and could catch though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: I do hate to go there. But does not seem like a mensa candidate. he would be a great red zone target if he had decent hands and could catch though Benjamin got a 7 on the Wonderlic. That is not a misprint. You have to TRY to get a score that poor -- filling in answers randomly will generally get you a better score. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dave mcbride Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, One Buffalo said: Wow. - Joe B is brutal on Benjamin. And he's not wrong. "The most confusing part is that Benjamin is in a contract year, so you would think he would go all out every snap he's out there." ?? - Why is this confusing? He's an idiot, based upon both his public comments about former teammates and his anti-MENSA Wonderlic score of 7. Edited September 11, 2018 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Coach Tuesday Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Yup - I remember that play - looked like Edmunds freelanced and it worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kelly the Dog Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 4 hours ago, matter2003 said: Sal stated and I agree after watching that Peterman predetermined where he is throwing the ball before the snap based on what he sees and then does it regardless of what the coverage ends up being. That might work well in the preseason whee what you see is what you get when they are being vanilla, but that doesn't work so well when coverages are being disguised and players are moving around right before the snap of the ball to different spots on the field. He was never any good at this. He was always a one read guy. Sure you can find a play or two out of a hundred but he rarely if ever did things people here said he did or even was good at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thunderingsquid Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 9 hours ago, dpberr said: Again, many of these plays suggest that the offensive line has no idea where it's suppossed to be or doing, especially if the defense throws a wrinkle. Add a quarterback equally mystified and you have panic and penalties. Coaching, coaching and more coaching. McDermott should fire Juan Castillo immediately. It's just not working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mat68 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 4 hours ago, dave mcbride said: I've been saying this for a year -- Benjamin runs a 4.8 on a good day and a 4.9 on a regular day. He is not good. Plus he's not bright. Use him like a flex tight end. In 4 to 5 wides line him up inside the slot. Him attacking the seam with an option to the post or corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BringBackOrton Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Cover1 and YardsPerPass are putting out the best Bills content in the game right now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nihilarian Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, dpberr said: Again, many of these plays suggest that the offensive line has no idea where it's suppossed to be or doing, especially if the defense throws a wrinkle. Add a quarterback equally mystified and you have panic and penalties. Coaching, coaching and more coaching. McDermott should fire Juan Castillo immediately. It's just not working. 2 He should have fired him after last year. Juan must have some compromising pics... Oh, and we don't need an all-22 to know that Pickerman stinks and had the worst performance by a Buffalo Bills QB that I can remember Edited September 12, 2018 by Nihilarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijah Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Got quite a bit of content here, so, some of the stuff that I think will be found most interesting.. Nathan Peterman Josh Allen Star Lotulelei Tremaine Edmunds 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijah Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Sorry for the ridiculously long post, it doesn't make sense to me that the forum doesn't separate them once they get that long. However, that's one of my personal accounts if any of you would like to follow it, that'd help spread a brand @the_big_bills on twitter. There's also more on twitter than what I put onto here, that's just some of the key players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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keepthefaith Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Reading this analysis helps one understand the complexity of effective QB play. Very possible that Allen while being the best athlete at the position may not be ready to decode the game as needed yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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