Roundybout Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Just now, SouthNYfan said: Did you actually convince yourself we had the DROY? Seriously? We didn't have the DROY. He was to me, dammit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Jaraxxus said: Is this a joke? Tre had a brilliant rookie season. And wasn't DROY. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 (edited) 25 minutes ago, PeterDude said: I made that when he was named the starter slick. I pay no allegiance to any one player on this team, never have. LOL......yeah, OK, Peterslick. Edited September 9, 2018 by Binghamton Beast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaista2k Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Was Beane the GM when we traded the pick to KC? If he was I'm sorry he needs to be fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, Virgil said: Allen vs Mahomes will be the defining legacy decision of the McDermott/Beane era. Eh not really. It’s all about the OCs - most coaches don’t get to fire two OCs, especially rookie coaches. If Daboll can’t get it together it’s McD who is gonna pay the price. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, Virgil said: Allen vs Mahomes will be the defining legacy decision of the McDermott/Beane era. Beane was not here when Mahomes was drafted. He cam in after the draft. That said, McDermott WAS here and decided to pass...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, Jaraxxus said: Should have been IMO. Nah I personally gave the edge to Lattimore as well. But White was outstanding. We need him to be this year too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterDude Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: LOL......yeah, OK, Peterslick. I figured Allen would not play until 0-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, sven233 said: Beane was not here when Mahomes was drafted. He cam in after the draft. That said, McDermott WAS here and decided to pass...... Debatable. There's honest rumors of Beane running both drafts on some level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterDude Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Just now, Virgil said: Debatable. There's honest rumors of Beane running both drafts on some level I tend to believe this, I am pretty confident Beane was advising McDermott from afar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills! Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Mahomes has a line, two WRs, top TE and running back better than ours. I didn't want him but he is doing great. I was hoping for Watson but both shops sailed and we have what we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 (edited) 49 minutes ago, jrober38 said: Mahomes is Josh Allen with much better instincts. It's unfathomable to me that we passed on Mahomes just to go after Allen with a higher pick the next season. Truly mind boggling. Blame the Pegulas. Having to pass on a QB because the new coach didn’t the new GM to have no say in the pick. It’s all tied in to the Pegulas hiring Rex. They should have totally cleaned house and had a new GM in place as well. Total tire fire that could set the team back years. Edited September 9, 2018 by Boatdrinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaista2k Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 If Pegula's stupid ass knew anything about football he would've drafted Mahomes instead of trading the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Klaista2k said: If Pegula's stupid ass knew anything about football he would've drafted Mahomes instead of trading the pick. Do you actually believe Mahomes would be successful here with the offense we would put around him? We don’t have players like Hill or Kelce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 26 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Honestly, that argument might make me feel worse, not better about our long term prospects. If the power structure created a spot where we couldn’t evaluate QBs for an entire offseason when we needed one then I think it’s a bigger red flag, no? Maybe ok short term but over the long haul? Additionally, we could’ve done the alex smith role with Tyrod. Not peterman, but our situations weren’t TERRIBLY dissimilar There is also the thinking that the new regime wanted to see what they had in Tyrod Taylor before going after a top pick at QB. Which they did and found him inadequate last year. I think they made the right move in obtaining Josh Allen. While Mahomes might look great atm won't he be the very first QB to come from an "air raid" Texas Tech scheme to make it in the NFL? Not many coaches besides Andy Reid could mold that kid into a top NFL QB IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Shocking isn’t it? Pat Mahomes is gonna be a HoFer. I truly believe that. His talent is sick. The Process passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaista2k Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Do you actually believe Mahomes would be successful here with the offense we would put around him? We don’t have players like Hill or Kelce. Not sure but I still think it was stupid to trade the pick away for a potentially great QB. Allen still may be good but I still feel he's a much riskier prospect than Mahomes. Edited September 9, 2018 by Klaista2k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: There is also the thinking that the new regime wanted to see what they had in Tyrod Taylor before going after a top pick at QB. Which they did and found him inadequate last year. I think they made the right move in obtaining Josh Allen. While Mahomes might look great atm won't he be the very first QB to come from an "air raid" Texas Tech scheme to make it in the NFL? Not many coaches besides Andy Reid could mold that kid into a top NFL QB IMHO. I won’t argue I’m a big mahomes guy. But I’ll loop these arguments around to a few concerns: 1) are you confident in a system that would allow burning an off-season because they can’t evaluate an nfl qb with a ton of film? 2) are you confident we can do that with a college qb if we couldn’t with Taylor? 3) If you don’t think we could develop mahomes, do you think allen is an easier project? 4) does it worry you that we didn’t get a group of coaches that seems to inspire confidence in you regarding qb evaluation/development? again, not arguing I love mahomes. I honestly don’t know him that well, but some of the justifications in the thread seem to actually raise much larger red flags instead of putting minds at ease. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 37 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: If you put Josh on the Chiefs with Andy Reid and Mahomes on the Bills with McDermott the situations would very likely be reversed. The Chiefs have the very best collection of skill players in the league, with a good coach, and the OL has been giving Mahomes a lot of time. Mahomes would be running for his life like Josh was on the the Bills. The big problem with kicking the young QB decision down the road in 2017 was the urgency it created to trade players and get capital for the 2018 draft. They gutted this roster and have put the young QB in a perilous situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 44 minutes ago, Jaraxxus said: Is this a joke? Tre had a brilliant rookie season. And he didn't win defensive rookie of the year, which is what the guy said. Tre did have a phenomenal rookie season. He wasn't DROY. 44 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: And wasn't DROY. Thanks bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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