purple haze Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Just now, wppete said: Have to free up money to sign Mack. Don’t want Hughes to be traded but trading him makes the most sense along with a draft pick. Also the raiders will be looking for some help at DE. Not necessarily. They can structure a deal in a way that the signing bonus is big but the cap hit begins next season when they have 70+ in space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Mack will likely be traded, as I don’t believe the Raiders will pay him. I just don’t think the Bills will offer the best overall package in return for a Mack trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 1 minute ago, purple haze said: Not necessarily. They can structure a deal in a way that the signing bonus is big but the cap hit begins next season when they have 70+ in space. Ok then. Who do you think would be a fit for the trade? I just thi k Hughes makes the most sense for the Bills and the raiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, PIZ said: Too much or not enough? If they have to give up a number 1, I'd rather give the 2020 one. That deal is much better for us than it is them. Obviously you want to hold off on the 1st being in 2020 because you think we’ll be a better team. The Raiders are going to want our 2019 1st since we’ll likely be starting a rookie QB and may not be a good team. We are getting an elite player and are going to have to pay for that. If you were the Raiders, would you be happy with that deal? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, purple haze said: Why does everyone want to get rid of Hughes? His money is not oppressive. And he puts pressure on QBs even if he doesn't get the sack. What makes anyone here think Hughes has any value? He hasn't performed at a high level in any scheme since Schwartz. Trading Hughes would be nothing more than a salary dump. I don't see the raiders doing us that favor. Edited August 26, 2018 by BullBuchanan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said: What makes anyone here think Hughes has any value? He hasn't performed at a high level in any scheme since Schwartz. Trading Hughes would be nothing more than a salary dump. I don't see the raiders doing us that favor. Here you go again. Hughes is a very good player as both a pass rusher and run defender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Here you go again. Hughes is a very good player as both a pass rusher and run defender. Buffalo-colored glasses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Buffalo-colored glasses You're wrong on Mack and Hughes not to mention your assessment of Peterman. I'm seeing a pattern here. Edited August 26, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Bangarang said: That deal is much better for us than it is them. Obviously you want to hold off on the 1st being in 2020 because you think we’ll be a better team. The Raiders are going to want our 2019 1st since we’ll likely be starting a rookie QB and may not be a good team. We are getting an elite player and are going to have to pay for that. If you were the Raiders, would you be happy with that deal? On the Raiders forums they think they are getting 2 firsts and 2 seconds for him... Fans think up unrealistic trade scenarios that always favours their team... If he is traded I believe it will include a 2019 first + extras and I just don’t see Beane parting with that for the privilege of then paying him $110mil for 5 years.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: On the Raiders forums they think they are getting 2 firsts and 2 seconds for him... Fans think up unrealistic trade scenarios that always favours their team... If he is traded I believe it will include a 2019 first + extras and I just don’t see Beane parting with that for the privilege of then paying him $110mil for 5 years.. Thats hilarious ?. 2 First and 2 Second round picks is crazy. No team would do that for a non QB. Only player in the league that might be worth that would be Aron Rogers. Edited August 26, 2018 by wppete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: You're wrong on Mack and Hughes not to mention your assessment of Peterman. I seeing a pattern here. Did you draw it in crayon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: On the Raiders forums they think they are getting 2 firsts and 2 seconds for him... Fans think up unrealistic trade scenarios that always favours their team... If he is traded I believe it will include a 2019 first + extras and I just don’t see Beane parting with that for the privilege of then paying him $110mil for 5 years.. I agree. It’s a trade Whaley would have made, but not Beane. Given Mack’s contract demands, I believe there are probably only a few teams willing and able to pay more than a second round pick for him. Edited August 26, 2018 by mannc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 The breasts would be being able to get Mack and keep Hughes. Imagine that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 10 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Buffalo-colored glasses Cant agree with you on this one.....Hughes is a VERY good player and would have some value 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: The breasts would be being able to get Mack and keep Hughes. Imagine that? Trying to imagine that, but having a tough time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: Cant agree with you on this one.....Hughes is a VERY good player and would have some value He hasn’t been a very good player since 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: The breasts would be being able to get Mack and keep Hughes. Imagine that? what breasts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Did you draw it in crayon? Yes! I see you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 How about Mccoy for mack straight up? I kid I kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, mannc said: It’s a trade Whaley would have made, but not Beane. This x10000 I can't see Beane parting with the draft capital AND money needed to secure Mack's services for the long haul. I would love to be wrong on this, but I don't think I am. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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