reddogblitz Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 23 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said: I never heard it described that way. What I heard, and read, was that under the ACA and other systems of universal care, unaccountable government bureaucrats, and doctors working under the direct guidance of said bureaucrats under guidance of the law, would be empaneled to make care decisions related to end of life based on the rationing of care and resources being more effectively administered to people who were not old or sick. Kind of like insurance companies you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: Kind of like insurance companies you mean? Kind of like the ones we freely choose or do not you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Just now, Boyst62 said: Kind of like the ones we freely choose or do not you mean? So if you freely choose an insurance company that denies end of life benefits (they do) or the government does(was the accusation I responded to ), you're still dead. But I guess you have the satisfaction of knowing it was your choice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: So if you freely choose an insurance company that denies end of life benefits (they do) or the government does(was the accusation I responded to ), you're still dead. But I guess you have the satisfaction of knowing it was your choice. sure. when choices are whats behind door number 1, 2 or 3 on the same stage, you surely have the illusion of choice, don't you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 8 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: So if you freely choose an insurance company that denies end of life benefits (they do) or the government does(was the accusation I responded to ), you're still dead. But I guess you have the satisfaction of knowing it was your choice. Some people want to let stage iv cancer be their demise. Others have the desire to fight it, going in debt, running fundraisers, etc. Sorry you don't love your freedom and your country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Just now, Boyst62 said: Some people want to let stage iv cancer be their demise. Others have the desire to fight it, going in debt, running fundraisers, etc. Sorry you don't love your freedom and your country. Boyst62, the "love your freedom and your country" monitor. I appreciate your service sir. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, reddogblitz said: Kind of like insurance companies you mean? No, because insurance companies aren't run by "unaccountable government bureaucrats, and doctors working under the direct guidance of said bureaucrats under guidance of the law." I'll give you a recent example: https://pjmedia.com/parenting/2017/06/29/baby-charlie-denied-life-by-british-health-system-eu-courts/ Even if an insurance company denies coverage, they aren't denying you treatment or care. Government run systems actively refuse to allow care to be administered. Edited September 21, 2018 by TakeYouToTasker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: No, because insurance companies aren't run by "unaccountable government bureaucrats, and doctors working under the direct guidance of said bureaucrats under guidance of the law." I'll give you a recent example: https://pjmedia.com/parenting/2017/06/29/baby-charlie-denied-life-by-british-health-system-eu-courts/ Even if an insurance company denies coverage, they aren't denying you treatment of care. Government run systems actively refuse to allow care to be administered. Thank you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Quote Burgess EverettVerified account @burgessev FollowFollow @burgessev Dr. Ford has indicated to Republicans she doesn't want to fly, in part revealing why she doesn't want the hearing to be on Monday Quote . Stephen MillerVerified account @redsteeze 26m26 minutes ago So she’s Charles Grodin in Midnight Run now? . VOTE! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 6 minutes ago, B-Man said: Burgess EverettVerified account @burgessev FollowFollow @burgessev Dr. Ford has indicated to Republicans she doesn't want to fly, in part revealing why she doesn't want the hearing to be on Monday Reminds me of a time, a few years ago, that a spate of people suddenly developed a crippling fear of taking a bus, therefore they couldn't get to court for their criminal cases, as directed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Midnight Run is a very underreferenced movie. I'd like to see it referenced in the hearings: "You're accused of raping a woman, Judge Kavanaugh...but have you ever had sex with an animal? Remember those chickens at Yale? There were some good looking chickens there, Brett. Just between you and me..." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 13 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: No, because insurance companies aren't run by "unaccountable government bureaucrats, and doctors working under the direct guidance of said bureaucrats under guidance of the law." I'll give you a recent example: https://pjmedia.com/parenting/2017/06/29/baby-charlie-denied-life-by-british-health-system-eu-courts/ Even if an insurance company denies coverage, they aren't denying you treatment of care. Government run systems actively refuse to allow care to be administered. That's just 1 case. I read there may be as mamy as 3 which object to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Boyst62 said: That's just 1 case. I read there may be as mamy as 3 which object to that. Why you gotta be so hurtful 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRC Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 12 minutes ago, B-Man said: . VOTE! They said that they would travel to see her. Total BS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 hour ago, DC Tom said: Yes. It's the last refuge of the immature asshat. If my Sunday afternoon football temper tantrums is what you got out of what I wrote then that’s because it’s what you went fishing for. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 minute ago, The_Dude said: If my Sunday afternoon football temper tantrums is what you got out of what I wrote then that’s because it’s what you went fishing for. ? Incorrect. Your reputation and posts down here are riddled with immature hyperbole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 @ExiledInIllinois needs to chime in on this. After the Dude, beginners mind and countless others have shared pearls of wisdom: we need real sense brought to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 12 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Midnight Run is a very underreferenced movie. I'd like to see it referenced in the hearings: "You're accused of raping a woman, Judge Kavanaugh...but have you ever had sex with an animal? Remember those chickens at Yale? There were some good looking chickens there, Brett. Just between you and me..." Trump to Feinstein: I got two words for you: shut the phuick up. Really good movie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 13 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Even if an insurance company denies coverage, they aren't denying you treatment of care. Government run systems actively refuse to allow care to be administered. This is a fine distinction. So after having a deadly disease for a while you're likely out of cash, but when the insurance company cuts you off, you can go buy it somewhere else. You really think an average middle income family can afford this? Really? Paying for cutting edge experimental cancer treatment out of their own pocket? In other words, disconnect and die with dignity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: Trump to Feinstein: I got two words for you: shut the phuick up. Really good movie. "Dr. Ford, can you describe your assailant?" "17, tall..." "About six foot?" "Six-four." "Dark hair?" "Light colored..." "Sounds like Kavanaugh..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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