row_33 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Are we finally finished with her? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 30 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Shocking that this thread is even taking a PPP turn (sarcasm). It’s not that complicated. Don’t say racist stuff and you won’t have to worry about the reprecussions. Even Roseanne doesn’t think that what she said should be defended: https://people.com/tv/roseanne-barr-breaks-silence-after-shows-cancellation-ambien/ It isn’t a political matter or witch hunt. The story isn’t “Roseanne got fired because ABC is run by a bunch of liberals.” The story is “Roseanne got fired for saying dumb, racist stuff.” Let’s not lose sight of that... Let's also not lose sight of the fact that this is the land of false equivalencies and the "yeah, well what about..." defense. Left wingnuts like Olbermann ranting about politics and looking like an ass is a FAR cry from tone deaf idiots like Roseanne making blatant, PERSONAL racist remarks. Advertisers have shown ZERO tolerance for that recently and, as popular as Roseanne's show was, Disney and its vast network have other advertiser-supported shows to worry about now and in the future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, K-9 said: Let's also not lose sight of the fact that this is the land of false equivalencies and the "yeah, well what about..." defense. Left wingnuts like Olbermann ranting about politics and looking like an ass is a FAR cry from tone deaf idiots like Roseanne making blatant, PERSONAL racist remarks. Advertisers have shown ZERO tolerance for that recently and, as popular as Roseanne's show was, Disney and its vast network have other advertiser-supported shows to worry about now and in the future. No, are we done with her finally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 14 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I feel like the people who sit down to watch Roseanne don’t care about her tweet. Those who don’t watch don’t care either. Why cancel it. For reals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 9 hours ago, Alaska Darin said: Olbermann is a bigot. As are Whoopi Goldberg and joy behar...both still employed by abc. But, they’re the right kind of bigots, so it’s ok. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 You'd think at this point in her life and career she'd have the self discipline to protect the good, lucrative thing she's got going...but nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 6 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: You can only speak your mind if you are liberal, everyone else must be silenced. You're right. That must be why Fox News is no longer on the air. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 1 minute ago, WhoTom said: You're right. That must be why Fox News is no longer on the air. Does someone really need to explain to you why that is a bad example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 (edited) The current trend is for liberals to smear advertisers reputation so they flee a show/network to save their image. It works because it's easy to switch to "safer" ways to market their products. The left tried boycotting but had neither the will nor participation to effect change. On the other hand, Conservatives just choose to stop watching, causing declines for ESPN, NFL, etc. These networks can't solve the problem of boycotts as easily, so they walk the tight-rope. And since the majority of their industry leans left, it's not like they have much choice in the content, either. They can only hope to enact policies that tone down the liberal rhetoric from their shows, to a level most people can tolerate. That is why I believe it feels like a double standard, because there is one... the left just needs to give their allies an excuse, while the right is fighting the nature of the beast. Edited May 30, 2018 by unbillievable 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Shocking that this thread is even taking a PPP turn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 12 hours ago, chknwing334 said: I can’t wait to hear what Hollywood’s sweetheart and Oscar host, Jimmy Kimmel has to say about this tonight. Maybe he will bring back his blackface Oprah mocking character for the night...or maybe they can play the game he came up with, Hungry Hungry Oprahs, with the brown hippo caricatures during the monologue. Gotta love selective outrage and celebrity hypocrisy. Rosanne is an idiot and a horrible person, but there are many more that get a pass because they are left wingers. Parody, mockery and satire are forms of comedy. If you can't tell the difference between them and comparing an African American an ape in 2018, head on back to 1960 where you belong. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Alaska Darin said: Parody, mockery and satire are forms of comedy. If you can't tell the difference between them and comparing an African American an ape in 2018, head on back to 1960 where you belong. That’s why Roseanne shouldn’t have been crucified for her Hitler baking cookies bit, which she did for a satire magazine called “Heeb.” I say “shouldn’t have” but her history of bigoted and racist remarks disqualifies her from that benefit of the doubt. Which is a shame because satire is such a powerful tool and people, especially younger people, would be well served to remember that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 (edited) Not to give her too much credit, but this is about as good of an apology as anyone could give. Takes full responsibility for her actions, and makes it publicly known exactly why what she did was wrong. https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/roseanne-barr-returns-to-twitter-‘don’t-feel-sorry-for-me’/ar-AAy0iqT?ocid=ientp If more people were willing to take this responsibility for their actions, and be this aware, we'd be in a much better place as a nation. Edited May 30, 2018 by DrDawkinstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Alaska Darin said: Parody, mockery and satire are forms of comedy. If you can't tell the difference between them and comparing an African American an ape in 2018, head on back to 1960 where you belong. Dressing in blackface to mock someone in the name of comedy is OK? I guess I didn't realize that and thought blackface was off limits. I must not be up to speed in 2018. And I clearly stated that Rosanne is a horrible person and did not for a second defend her ignorant, racist comments. Edited May 30, 2018 by chknwing334 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 14 minutes ago, chknwing334 said: Dressing in blackface to mock someone in the name of comedy is OK? I guess I didn't realize that and thought blackface was off limits. Nice try. If you don't know what black face is, then I suppose your take could be relevant. Kimmel also dressed up as Karl Malone and Charles Barkley. None of them were done in "black face". Mimicking or parodying a celebrity is a hell of a lot different then the origins of black face and why that particular thing is no longer acceptable. Why the !@#$ does that even need to be explained? And thanks for making me defend friggin' Jimmy Kimmel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 4 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Shocking that this thread is even taking a PPP turn (sarcasm). It’s not that complicated. Don’t say racist stuff and you won’t have to worry about the reprecussions. Even Roseanne doesn’t think that what she said should be defended: https://people.com/tv/roseanne-barr-breaks-silence-after-shows-cancellation-ambien/ It isn’t a political matter or witch hunt. The story isn’t “Roseanne got fired because ABC is run by a bunch of liberals.” The story is “Roseanne got fired for saying dumb, racist stuff.” Let’s not lose sight of that... I still want to know why celebrities even bother with twitter. One wrong comment destroys everything. Sometimes it's deserved (here), other times it's not. They have to walk a tight rope that's thinner than dental floss on there. It's not worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, shrader said: I still want to know why celebrities even bother with twitter. One wrong comment destroys everything. Sometimes it's deserved (here), other times it's not. They have to walk a tight rope that's thinner than dental floss on there. It's not worth it. Humanity would be better off if we killed social media asap. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, shrader said: I still want to know why celebrities even bother with twitter. One wrong comment destroys everything. Sometimes it's deserved (here), other times it's not. They have to walk a tight rope that's thinner than dental floss on there. It's not worth it. Agreed. And I'll add athletes to that, as well; especially young athletes with legitimate shots to go pro. Once it's out there, it's out there forever. Just ask Josh Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Gugny said: Agreed. And I'll add athletes to that, as well; especially young athletes with legitimate shots to go pro. Once it's out there, it's out there forever. Just ask Josh Allen. The easy answer is: It's part of the business. Being a celebrity is about staying relevant and in the spotlight. Social Media makes that very easy. It's basically a required part of the job in order to keep pace with the competition. The problem is, these celebrities arent hiring PR people to do their tweeting for them. Edited May 30, 2018 by DrDawkinstein 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 The internet could be what ends up destroying humanity It needs to go back to what it was I tended for. Buying thing without having to get dressed and leave your home, watching home videos of people or animals falling down and or getting hurt, getting scammed by African Royalty, Netflix, and easily accessible pornography. Everything else is just leading to the world becoming a worse place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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