Sky Diver Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 (edited) At a velocity of 50mph, the ball is in flight for 1.43 secs if it travels 35 yrds. Figure about 2.5 to 3.5 sec for the QB to release the ball after the snap. So 4 - 5 sec for the play from snap to completion, or more if the QB is scrambling. Edited May 5, 2018 by Sky Diver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 38 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: At a velocity of 50mph, the ball is in flight for 1.43 secs if it travels 35 yrds. Figure about 2.5 to 3.5 sec for the QB to release the ball after the snap. So 4 - 5 sec for the play from snap to completion, or more if the QB is scrambling. Is this the “Tyrod factor”? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 6 hours ago, Shaw66 said: This is something I've only thought about a little. Others have commented on it. There are a lot of solid players on the defense. Hughes and Lawson and Star and Kyle and Phillips. Edmunds and Zo. DBs and safeties. The defense was pretty good last season, when everyone was just learning. Now they're going to weave in the new comers, and the talent upgrade should make the defense really tough tough this season. Then Zo and Kyle will retire, but they'll be replaced. The defense in Buffalo will a force. it seems like they have a great transition happening. while i am going to miss kyle williams when he decides to retire, phillips seems like the perfect guy to step up in that role. and zo is a great mentor to the kids in the lb core, as well as the defense in general. these guys are the epitome of veteran leadership. i think this is the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Longer better faster stronger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LeGOATski Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 30 minutes ago, Magox said: Sounds like a male performance enhancement ad. TREMAINE ENHANCEMUNDS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 The Bills defense was good last year, but not great. They were vulnerable to a good running game but generally did well against the pass. I think every addition has been an upgrade, so the expectation that this defense is going to be better is fair. How quickly the new guys develop and how quickly they gel will be key. If that happens, it could be a great defense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 8 hours ago, klos63 said: Edmunds has never cried during a game. Classless joke ?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring it Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 8 hours ago, BadLandsMeanie said: Somewhere in Connecticut... Mom, could you talk to dad? Why. Is something wrong? Well, he is doing his calculations again. And he has got out his slide rule and that mannequin. And well, my friends are coming over. Lol! On the serious side, Phillips will be hard to keep off the field THIS year. And if Edmunds has the instincts for mlb he will be a stud! Huge upgrade over Brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keukasmallie Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 How much wood could a woodchuck chuck.... Yeah, I know, about as inane as the question posed by this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 With his size and speed the QB must throw into a tighter window while adjusting his trajectory. This will result in more incompletions and less YAC, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 To the original point. In the games I watched on replay the bills linebacker pass coverage was sort of ceremonial. Or like our appendix, which is vestigial but no longer serves a purpose. They were so slow it was embarrassing and it is a good thing nobody watched the all 22. Seriously on some plays it was like watching a guy being covered by his much younger little brother. That is my way of saying I think Shaw's calculations for Brown are very generous. I think the difference with this new guy will be way more drastic. Night and day different. There are videos of this Edmunds running down receivers for Pete's sake.. From what I have learned he needs work against the run but against the pass this guy is already great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 12 hours ago, TigerJ said: Sometimes when you get a guy with superior measurables, he will tend to rely on his athleticism and get a little bit lazy in his pursuit of mental mastery of the game. In the case of Tremaine Edmunds, however, he appears to be afootball junkie who was dedicated to film study at a far earlier age than most players in the NFL, thanks to his father, a pro bowl TE in his professional career, who was Tremaine's high school coach. The result of his father's instructions is a player with superior size, athleticism, instinct and football IQ. Given all of that, I will be disappointed if Tremaine doesn't turn out to be a perennial pro bowler. and on top of all that he's over 250, so i expect him to also lay the wood. he won't be all finesse. bring on gronk! 11 hours ago, Stank_Nasty said: Totally agree. I didn’t really get excited about the D until a couple days ago when I really sat down and thought about the new members up front and then the drafted guys. It’s very apparent mcdermott wants to build a d that can take over a game and help out the young qb. It would not surprise me one bit to see a leap into the top ten in total yardage and points allowed this coming season. Its exciting to see that aspect get better while STILL being able to make a move at trying to upgrade qb. sacks should rise dramatically as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Aside from measurables, just watch him in coverage. His hips are fluid, he drops into a zone like a safety. They have a very young kid who is devoted to football and the more he learns the better he will get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 There is no ILB with the height, length, weight, speed, athleticism that Edmunds has. And he just turned 20. He is is a bigger, faster more athletic Luke Kuechly. Let’s hope McDermott and the coaches work on the Football IQ and instincts. He could be a dominant player in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Love his elite size/athleticism combination, but he’s very raw in terms of recognition. Poor angles and improper coverage drops will be an issue until he’s more seasoned. Yes, his athleticism will enable him to recover faster but that can be a double edged sword as teams can exploit that to get him out of position. We need to be patient during the growing pains but sky is the limit for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted May 5, 2018 Author Share Posted May 5, 2018 36 minutes ago, BadLandsMeanie said: To the original point. In the games I watched on replay the bills linebacker pass coverage was sort of ceremonial. Or like our appendix, which is vestigial but no longer serves a purpose. They were so slow it was embarrassing and it is a good thing nobody watched the all 22. Seriously on some plays it was like watching a guy being covered by his much younger little brother. That is my way of saying I think Shaw's calculations for Brown are very generous. I think the difference with this new guy will be way more drastic. Night and day different. There are videos of this Edmunds running down receivers for Pete's sake.. From what I have learned he needs work against the run but against the pass this guy is already great. Tweaked me good with the slide rule post. I liked it. (In my defense, I began the post by saying I wanted to quantify it because I was curious. It's not like I didn't already know he was faster than Brown.) I'd disagree with your assessment of Brown, but I haven't watched the All 22. Brown seemed to me to be just a step or two out of position, not my-little-brother out of position. Someone else started talking abut 35-yard passes. Most passes are shorther than that, and the 35 yard passes are typically to the sideline, and Edmunds won't be defending those. I think where we'll see the difference is throws over the middle - QBs will learn that nothing's open over the middle, because Edmunds is standing right in the middle of the target area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 11 minutes ago, K-9 said: Love his elite size/athleticism combination, but he’s very raw in terms of recognition. Poor angles and improper coverage drops will be an issue until he’s more seasoned. Yes, his athleticism will enable him to recover faster but that can be a double edged sword as teams can exploit that to get him out of position. We need to be patient during the growing pains but sky is the limit for him. He reminds me of Cornelious Bennett from a size and athletic standpoint. He's an exciting prospect who in a couple years or so should be a dynamic player. The only issue relates to his football instincts. Only time will tell on that issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobloodfloridahome Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Just be glad Allen is throwing 62 mph balls on our side we would need really fast LBer's to cover that LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 26 minutes ago, wppete said: There is no ILB with the height, length, weight, speed, athleticism that Edmunds has. And he just turned 20. He is is a bigger, faster more athletic Luke Kuechly. Let’s hope McDermott and the coaches work on the Football IQ and instincts. He could be a dominant player in the NFL. his father was a 2 time nfl pro bowler. his brother trey plays for the saints and his other brother terrell was drafted in the first by pitt. making them the first brothers to go in the 1st rd. in nfl history. i would say the iq and instincts already may be in his blood. 13 minutes ago, JohnC said: He reminds me of Cornelious Bennett from a size and athletic standpoint. He's an exciting prospect who in a couple years or so should be a dynamic player. The only issue relates to his football instincts. Only time will tell on that issue. hmmm...that sounds like a good comparison....but add a little size and the bloodline. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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