Troll Toll Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 With the plethora of “good” QBs available this year, coupled with the number of willing trade partners from 2-6. It almost seems like the teams at the top are now competing to trade down to acquire Buffalo’s picks. Buffalo can conceivably stand pat at 12 and keep their other first. All That considered, this should be as favorable a year as possible for a QB trade up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherChazz Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Troll Toll said: With the plethora of “good” QBs available this year, coupled with the number of willing trade partners from 2-6. It almost seems like the teams at the top are now competing to trade down to acquire Buffalo’s picks. Buffalo can conceivably stand pat at 12 and keep their other first. All That considered, this should be as favorable a year as possible for a QB trade up. Except that several teams are looking to move up for a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 I wouldn't characterize it that way. They still have something we want, and there are presumably others looking to move up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where’sLloyd Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 (edited) We’re still at their mercy since they can stay put whereas we cannot. And ARZ is likely wanting we want too Edited April 26, 2018 by Where’sLloyd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 This is the way trades normally go down, on draft day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 I would say so. There are a higher quantity of teams that are in the top 8 that are wanting to trade down than teams trying to trade up. And when you consider that the Bills have the most draft capital it puts them in an enviable position if you are seeking a franchise qb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 This is how negotiations go. You say you're willing to trade, but ask for the moon. Those interested claim they have other partners. Someone buckles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 I’d say it’s as favorable a market to trade up for a 1st round QB that I can remember. Doesn’t mean Bills aren’t gonna have to pay up but you probably have at least 3 QB’s as highly rated as Trubisky and you could realistically get one at 6 with a team actively trying to trade down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, BrotherChazz said: Except that several teams are looking to move up for a QB. Yes but most dont have the necessary ammo to make it worthwhile for the other teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherChazz Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Just now, matter2003 said: Yes but most dont have the necessary ammo to make it worthwhile for the other teams If the Broncos wanted to get to 2 like it's been reported earlier, they don't need to give up nearly as much as Buffalo. Heck, even the Browns could consider moving 4 to 2 to get both their guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Toll Posted April 26, 2018 Author Share Posted April 26, 2018 Do you guys think Bills could get to 2 without giving up 3 firsts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherman Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 I wouldn’t say the upper hand but I’d say they have the best hand for teams looking to trade up. Of the teams looking to trade up only Miami has a lower pick and its only one spot lower. All the teams can offer a 1st but only we can offer one this year. All the teams can offer a second but we can offer two. Unless other teams are looking to trade roster players we should be able to put together the best package. It’s really just a matter of if the Bills decision makers believe in the players available to make the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Many teams looking to move down, all would like a pice of what the Bills have to offer. Will the right team be willing, though? That's the question. The Bills have the most loot, and most other teams looking to move up don't have a signicantly better 1st round pick to give . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 12 minutes ago, Troll Toll said: With the plethora of “good” QBs available this year, coupled with the number of willing trade partners from 2-6. It almost seems like the teams at the top are now competing to trade down to acquire Buffalo’s picks. Buffalo can conceivably stand pat at 12 and keep their other first. All That considered, this should be as favorable a year as possible for a QB trade up. Absolutely. Bills are in a great position right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, Troll Toll said: Do you guys think Bills could get to 2 without giving up 3 firsts? They have enough to make it happen, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cage Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Bills have advantage over other teams looking to trade up as they can offer 2 firsts... they don't have much of any advantage in getting a better (less expensive) deal to get into the top five. It all has to add up on the draft value chart and to get to #2 may even have to pay a premium. The other teams can't get there as easily as they don't have the draft capital we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, Troll Toll said: Do you guys think Bills could get to 2 without giving up 3 firsts? Definitely. NYG want to trade down pretty badly, but so do Cleveland and Denver, so their leverage is severely limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, BrotherChazz said: If the Broncos wanted to get to 2 like it's been reported earlier, they don't need to give up nearly as much as Buffalo. Heck, even the Browns could consider moving 4 to 2 to get both their guys. Yeah thats true but I am talking about teams like Miami, Arizona etc that have been reported to be looking to move up...teams moving around in the top 5 really dont matter much...its teams outside there that can hurt us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Murray Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 if im the bills, i try to trade next years 1 instead of this years #22. so move up using 12, one of the 2nd rounders, and next years 1. i *think* the giants should go for that, because presumably, we are starting a rookie QB and so our 1st next year is a high pick. So the giants pass on a QB and stay w Eli. if they are right, then they get extra guys to put around him. if they are wrong, they have presumably 2 high 1st round picks next year to get his replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 They appear to have the most to overpay to move up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 23 minutes ago, Troll Toll said: With the plethora of “good” QBs available this year, coupled with the number of willing trade partners from 2-6. It almost seems like the teams at the top are now competing to trade down to acquire Buffalo’s picks. Buffalo can conceivably stand pat at 12 and keep their other first. All That considered, this should be as favorable a year as possible for a QB trade up. The team that begs the most gets our picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 We have no Advantage, other teams ahead of us are looking to take advantage of us. So no, we just have a lot of capital to give up and other teams want most of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 8 minutes ago, Bill Murray said: if im the bills, i try to trade next years 1 instead of this years #22. so move up using 12, one of the 2nd rounders, and next years 1. i *think* the giants should go for that, because presumably, we are starting a rookie QB and so our 1st next year is a high pick. So the giants pass on a QB and stay w Eli. if they are right, then they get extra guys to put around him. if they are wrong, they have presumably 2 high 1st round picks next year to get his replacement. i think that will work for no.4 ,but not 2. i would really like to keep 22 and the rest. that would be perfect....actually 12 and giving the browns back 65 and next yrs.1st would be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 40 minutes ago, Bill Murray said: if im the bills, i try to trade next years 1 instead of this years #22. so move up using 12, one of the 2nd rounders, and next years 1. i *think* the giants should go for that, because presumably, we are starting a rookie QB and so our 1st next year is a high pick. So the giants pass on a QB and stay w Eli. if they are right, then they get extra guys to put around him. if they are wrong, they have presumably 2 high 1st round picks next year to get his replacement. You heard about what the Jets gave up to move up 3 spots from 6th to 3rd, right? You think the Giants, who probably have multiple teams inquiring, would drop from 2nd to 12th for only a 2nd and a 1st next year? Gentlemen wouldn't make it through his first off season as GM to become the fastest GM fired ever. The Jets set the bar with their trade the draft value chart can be thrown out the window this year, only way it comes down is if a team desperately wants to move down and are going to just take the best offer made to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark92 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 I think the other teams have the upper hand because they own the high picks. They also know we are desperate. I am sure one of them would love our picks but is it the team that has the pick we need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 I think people here are really overvaluing the Bill's picks. Sure they have a bunch, but the best ones are out of the top 10 and it's more quantity over quality as most are in the middle of the rounds. Next years first is most likely to be a 10-20 pick also. Teams may look at the Bill's and like the quantity they could ask for, but may look at a bunch of other teams and prefer the quality of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epstein's Mother Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 3 hours ago, cage said: Bills have advantage over other teams looking to trade up as they can offer 2 firsts... they don't have much of any advantage in getting a better (less expensive) deal to get into the top five. It all has to add up on the draft value chart and to get to #2 may even have to pay a premium. The other teams can't get there as easily as they don't have the draft capital we have. The Jets changed the math on trades after what they paid to move from 6 to 3. The old draft value chart probably doesn't mean much anymore. Just gets you in the ballpark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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