stuvian Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 anything after Denver will get us the slider of Darnold, Allen, Rosen and Mayfield or give us insurance to get an early shot at Jackson or Rudolph is a QB panic run appears imminent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, PIZ said: Wondering if we only go to #6, if we are sure we can then get to #2. If they only get to #6, then Darnold, Mayfield, and Rosen may all be gone leaving Allen as the only "big 4" left. Well, I'd be fine with Allen at 6. I personally think Darnold and Allen are likely the first 2 qbs off the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 hour ago, BigBuff423 said: I disagree. Shady is expendable on the wrong side of 30 and one of the positions this Draft is loaded with? Oh yea, RB. You use the pick and continue to unload contracts and get younger. 58 minutes ago, DefenseWins said: That is not totally accurate... If the Giant's were to insist upon Shady being included in the deal (since they would be passing up the chance to draft Barkley) and might reduce the draft choice compensation abit, it might indeed be a good reason to trade Shady. And after all he is hitting 30 and might relish a chance to go up against his former team (Eagles) and perhaps even contend for the Superbowl... I'd hardly call that "zero reason to unload him...) Did either one of you bother to read what I was originally responding to and what the poster values Shady at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 I don't know how many more "moving up" rumors I can take at this point. One week to go. One week to go. One week to go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 If I’m Beane, I offer 12, 22, and 53 to Broncos for 5. That’s a big over-payment but worth it in my opinion because it eliminates the only other legit competition to take a QB in top 5. Then I offer next years 1 to Giants for pick 2. Giants still get Chubb, Barkley, or Nelson and pick up a 1st next year while building around a 38 year old QB. If I stay at 5, at worst I get to pick between 2 of the top 4 QB’s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 12 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said: Did either one of you bother to read what I was originally responding to and what the poster values Shady at? I have no idea what you're referring to....you quoted me directly with the response that you don't trade Shady, I countered with, "Yes, you do - given the depth at the RB position in this Draft and the intent to get younger and cheaper". Then you mention what "the poster values Shady at"....but the OP doesn't mention Shady at all. He merely indicated the two teams talking about going 6, per NFL Network. So, I guess you'll have to fill me in...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 hour ago, BillsEnthusiast said: What did they bother with pants for? You into stiffs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 15 minutes ago, BigBuff423 said: I have no idea what you're referring to....you quoted me directly with the response that you don't trade Shady, I countered with, "Yes, you do - given the depth at the RB position in this Draft and the intent to get younger and cheaper". Then you mention what "the poster values Shady at"....but the OP doesn't mention Shady at all. He merely indicated the two teams talking about going 6, per NFL Network. So, I guess you'll have to fill me in...? Said shady was worth a 3rd or a 4th rounder. Hence why I said I wouldn't move him for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Billsmisery said: He looks unusually happy. I would like them to dig me up and do this to show me celebrating when the Bills win a Superbowl someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Patrick_Duffy said: Does anyone else lick the twinkie cake off the wrapper that gets stuck there after you open it? That’s NOT a Twinkie!!!! 2 hours ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: Bills trade #12 and #22 to Colts for #6 Bills trade #6 and #65th to Browns for #4 Browns-Darnold Giants-Barkley Jets-Mayfield Bills-Rosen We would still have picks 53, 56, 96 and we keep all our picks next year. This also ensures we jump over Broncos, cut out the Cardinals, Dolphins, Patriots and whoever else wants to trade up because the Giants are not trading out of #2. This happens and I bet I’m not the only one who’s ecstatic!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: Do you know if Riley Ferguson is a liberal? Very very well done. Still chuckling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Pick 6 and QB hmmm I'm not sure I like that sound of those things together 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 2 hours ago, TheBeane said: Did you ever suck the jelly out of a jelly doughnut and then fill it with chocolate swirl ice cream? FATSO ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 hour ago, BillsFan17 said: Said shady was worth a 3rd or a 4th rounder. Hence why I said I wouldn't move him for that Oh, I see...I thought you were saying you responded in a separate post about Shady....that's why I was confused. As for worth a 3rd or 4th Rounder, given his age, I think a mid to low 3rd or high 4th is probably fair compensation. And, yes Shady has been the best Offensive player for the team since his arrival, but this isn't about 2018, which is why the Bills would be giving up so much to get their QB of the future. This is about setting the team up for 2019 and beyond. This Draft is unusually deep at RB, where a 3rd round or even 4th round RB could be a legit starter for the rest of his career and one who can do it all, except for maybe pass block. That's why you turn Shady in for that pick. It gives you flexibility to choose a RB or a WR or a CB or LB, and still be able to get a younger, cheaper, and able RB while adding to the core of your players for the next five years. JMO, I know you disagree, I was just expounding on the reasoning in my mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 39 minutes ago, BigBuff423 said: Oh, I see...I thought you were saying you responded in a separate post about Shady....that's why I was confused. As for worth a 3rd or 4th Rounder, given his age, I think a mid to low 3rd or high 4th is probably fair compensation. And, yes Shady has been the best Offensive player for the team since his arrival, but this isn't about 2018, which is why the Bills would be giving up so much to get their QB of the future. This is about setting the team up for 2019 and beyond. This Draft is unusually deep at RB, where a 3rd round or even 4th round RB could be a legit starter for the rest of his career and one who can do it all, except for maybe pass block. That's why you turn Shady in for that pick. It gives you flexibility to choose a RB or a WR or a CB or LB, and still be able to get a younger, cheaper, and able RB while adding to the core of your players for the next five years. JMO, I know you disagree, I was just expounding on the reasoning in my mind. Believe me, I'm all for going with a youth movement. However, Shady means more to this team and this locker room... it's been well stated that Shady has really matured here as a player and a teammate. The salary cap is more worrisome for fans than front offices, I am not overly worried about what Shady is getting paid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 3 hours ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: Bills trade #12 and #22 to Colts for #6 Bills trade #6 and #65th to Browns for #4 Browns-Darnold Giants-Barkley Jets-Mayfield Bills-Rosen We would still have picks 53, 56, 96 and we keep all our picks next year. This also ensures we jump over Broncos, cut out the Cardinals, Dolphins, Patriots and whoever else wants to trade up because the Giants are not trading out of #2. It took 3 2nds for the Jets to go from 6 to 3 but it only costs a 3rd to go from 6 to 4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 5 hours ago, kdiggz said: i like six...it's nice Sounds like Mayfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 hour ago, BillsFan17 said: Believe me, I'm all for going with a youth movement. However, Shady means more to this team and this locker room... it's been well stated that Shady has really matured here as a player and a teammate. The salary cap is more worrisome for fans than front offices, I am not overly worried about what Shady is getting paid. Fair enough...for me, when I consider value, I think about what Bills would get for him, his replacement value in terms of a Rookie RB, and Cap money spent. Given the depth at RB this year, to me it just makes sense. But, it’s not like I’m on a soap box screaming about the end of the world if he stays, lol....I just happen to think his highest value to Bills at this point, is now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 7 hours ago, Domdab99 said: I scrape it off with my finger, and then lick my finger Sexy!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 10 hours ago, kdiggz said: i like six...it's nice One of the FUNNIEST movies EVER!! Azamat Bagatov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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