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Jon Ledyard/NDT Scouting: 19 first round grades, with 2 of the top 4 QBs left out


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Compared to some other big boards, He’s high on Rosen and Mayfield, low on Darnold and Allen. Also high on Hurst and Sony Michel and low on Vita Vea and Tremaine Edmonds.  

 

Four RBs with 1st rd grades, plus he said nick Chubb wasn’t far off ... makes the Browns it Giants giving up a haul of high picks from the Bills vs drafting Barkley at 2 or 4 a joke. 

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19 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

He has the same number as me but about 6 different players.  

 

I have 23 right now

 

13 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

I’ve been thinking that the Allen buzz is largely being created by his agent to try to boost his stock.  This lends credence to that.  

 

I hear differently, but I guess we'll see in 3 weeks.

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3 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said:

 

This seems so weird to me. What’s the point in grading draft picks without positional value? Seems like a totally academic exercise.

 

yeah the math don't add up if he rates Rosen and Mayfield higher

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4 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said:

 

This seems so weird to me. What’s the point in grading draft picks without positional value? Seems like a totally academic exercise.

 

I actually kind of prefer it. This way, it’s more a projection of long term value and calls out when someone is a reach. Like when EJ was drafted....

 

The point isn’t to predict when players will be drafted for these scenarios and shouldn’t be compared to a mock at all

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1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

Compared to some other big boards, He’s high on Rosen and Mayfield, low on Darnold and Allen. Also high on Hurst and Sony Michel and low on Vita Vea and Tremaine Edmonds.  

 

Four RBs with 1st rd grades, plus he said nick Chubb wasn’t far off ... makes the Browns it Giants giving up a haul of high picks from the Bills vs drafting Barkley at 2 or 4 a joke. 

 

 

13th is pretty low for Mayfield.

 

And he's only low on Allen compared to moron pundits like Kiper. Most people think Allen sucks. 

 

Guice over Barkley is pretty bold. Jones in the 1st round is just unconscionable, though. 

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49 minutes ago, hemma said:

I'm not surprised about Vea not showing up on his list.  

Looked a little sluggish and won't be able to overpower as easily in the pros.

 

Yeah, its not like I've seen him a lot but given the hype I was a little disappointed with his bowl game. Reports are that the Penn State O-line had its best game all year, but they were hardly an elite unit and they seemed to me to pretty much neutralize him. On a couple of crucial third down conversion attempts they ran right at him and backed him up.

For a guy his size seeing him on special teams covering punts was pretty impressive though. 

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3 minutes ago, SoFFacet said:

 

 

13th is pretty low for Mayfield.

 

And he's only low on Allen compared to moron pundits like Kiper. Most people think Allen sucks. 

 

Guice over Barkley is pretty bold. Jones in the 1st round is just unconscionable, though. 

 

Very, very few people think Allen sucks.

 

There is a faction of folks that don't think he's got the skill set to be an NFL QB.

 

Most folks see the raw ability, but vary in opinion regarding how much honing of his skill set it'll take to make him successful, and what type of offense he can operate efficiently.

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6 minutes ago, SoFFacet said:

 

 

13th is pretty low for

 

 

And he's only low on Allen compared to moron pundits like Kiper. Most people think Allen sucks. 

 

Guice over Barkley is pretty bold. Jones in the 1st round is just unconscionable, though. 

13 isn’t low for Mayfield, that’s pretty high. This isn’t a mock draft. 

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